bodhi seeds

[Clankie]

I know this is a Bodhi thread, I just had to agree with Amos. I am currently stuck with several jars of a Herrijuana x Williams Wonder cross.
It is strong, but tastes like rubbing alcohol and grass. A couple of the jars are three weeks old and the smell and taste are still terrible.
One of my SSDD is at day 63 today, so I'm hoping for a chop soon, and maybe in a couple weeks I can stop sucking down that cough syrup tasting Herri cross!
Damn trichs are still sitting at 50% cloudy with little or no amber.

I've never had a heri cross like that. I've done both the KO Kush f4 from Sannie and Anesthesia from Breeder's Choice, and I liked the taste of both quite a bit. KO Kush was very similar to Bubba but with an added dark roast coffee taste, and Anesthesia was a bold, dark, earthy, very old school taste. The KO probably had an overall more pleasing taste, while the anesthesia was stronger in effect (my keeper tested at 25.4% THC). They do not have many/any influences from the lighter tastes, but I certainly wouldn't call them putrid.

See I love pine, chem, fuel, funk, berries, fruit, shit skunk, floral, sandlewood. Really I hate bland or hay and grass smelling

I've usually found hay/grass taste to come from less than optimal drying/curing conditions; I suppose it could be possible with exceptionally poor genetics, but I've never actually seen herb that was treated right come out like that, and I've never grown anything that I would describe as hay or grassy, and as a Colorado boy I am pretty familiar with those smells.

thanks but i would never grow pure sour d. the flower time is too long and its kinda finicky. i want a cross though this is why ive been beggin bodhi to make a sour d cross but he wont make one. i need cuts that finish under 70 days. preferably 65

You know, other than the snow lotus x sour mix packs that got sent out for freebies for a while, or Instant Karma (bubba x sour d ibl) or Instant Karma crosses. Or the House of Funk cross made with Bodhi's snow lotus male. Or the ECSD x Appy released by Workingman's Dank using the same Appy male that Bodhi used.

I don't know any of those people...I also don't know anyone that drinks alcohol-free boubon and never grokked the point. My idea of good daytime smoke is an aches and pains soother w/o the drowsiness while bending the universe to the precise angle I like best. Part of that is also good taste.

Who doesn't prefer Heineken over Blue Ribbon, though each have equal alcohol? Smoking something that taste's awful because it's potent suggests that only crap tasting strains pack a legitimate punch. I know that's not the case, and am grateful I don't have to endure the putridness of say...most anything herijuana...to get an effective dose of relief. That's really all I'm saying - that it's not a this or that choice. It's this and ​that.

The only thing I've ever grown that I found unpalatable was the Corleone Kush from tCC, which I found an oddly bad combination of lemon pledge OG and the classic bubba kushiness. I dunno if I'm the only one, but it just didn't seem like something I wanted to smoke. I always find unflushed weed, soil or hydro, unpalatable; and I can tell in one hit if it was nute pushed until chop or not. And there's such a thing as alcohol free bourbon? That is somehow terrifying, offensive, and absolutely the gag gift I will give my dad for christmas next year.

Hey guys i just placed an order with alibongo and got 2 free bodhi snow queen seed ive looked an cant find much anyone got any info on this strain?

Snow Queen = Pinequeen (Sonic Seeds) x Snow Lotus I saw someone killing with it on seeddepot when that was a thing, but I don't remember who it was.

EWW...YUCK...that's why I hate hydro, chem grown, or any too piney anything. YACK!!! Sorry...just my opinion. I like the fruity berry, lemon, hash, sweet earthy types...

I fail to see what hydro/synthetics have to do with your argument? Perhaps you have just had poorly grown hydro product? Here everyone always assumes my herb is soil/organic because of how it tastes (and the way they've been brainwashed into thinking that soil/organics always taste better) but I've been using mostly the same hydro/organics nutrients for 6 years, and know how to grow good tasting plants. I use an extremely comprehensive blend, don't use any of those silly flavor enhancers and instead use my own hydro friendly molasses formulation, and I will always, ALWAYS put my buds up against soil/organics in terms of taste/smell/effect.

Still haven't even cracked a Bodhi bean, but revisiting this thread has turned me into a believer. After receiving my Seedsman order yesterday, I now have Blood Orange, Blueberry Hill, Tiger's milk, Silver Mountain, SSDD, and Lucky Charms... Ordered the last pack of Appalachian Thunderfuck and second to last pack of Golden Triangle last night, can't beat a free pack...

I look forward to sharing my experience whenever I get everything up and running this year. Thanks for all of you posting pics and grow/smoke reports.

- Dusty

Sounds like someone's going to have a busy year.



For all: I tested the strain Elphinstone for Bodhi last year, and it is going to be available soon, starting at holistic nursery. If you like massive yields of citrus chem buds with a happy, laughing, social, sativa high, this is a good strain for that. I found 2/5 female phenotypes that would qualify as exceptionally high yielding. However, all phenotypes stretch for 2-3 weeks after the introduction of 12/12, and will generally bloom for a 10-11 week period. This plant yields as well as the old Sweet Skunk clone I used to have, easily putting out 4+ ounces per plant; on the tables where I achieved these yields I am running two 600s to illuminate 18 plants, and got approx. 13 oz of top shelf flower from three plants, as well as a couple zips of lower branch stuff for extraction.

 

[Amos Otis]

I'm running into the whole taste thing myself. While Mataro Blue is a strong strain, and has amazing bag appeal, the smell and taste are like smoking clove cigarettes. It just doesn't smell and taste like good weed. I'm sitting on a ton of this weed and when given a choice between a more familiar smelling strain and this, my friends and customers always pick the other strain. I guess it's the blueberry part of the strain.

Thankfully, the longer they're curing, the more sweeter the weed is becoming.

I wonder how many Mataro Blue beans you were resposible for selling.....I was almost one - had it in my cart, in fact because of your repeated high praise. Not ragging on you, I swear...just noting the irony.

 

[RedCarpetMatches]

I fail to see what hydro/synthetics have to do with your argument? Perhaps you have just had poorly grown hydro product? Here everyone always assumes my herb is soil/organic because of how it tastes (and the way they've been brainwashed into thinking that soil/organics always taste better) but I've been using mostly the same hydro/organics nutrients for 6 years, and know how to grow good tasting plants. I use an extremely comprehensive blend, don't use any of those silly flavor enhancers and instead use my own hydro friendly molasses formulation, and I will always, ALWAYS put my buds up against soil/organics in terms of taste/smell/effect.

I stated it was 'just my opinion'. Truly sorry if I offended anyone...to each his own. I've had many strains grown many ways, and organics wins hands down IMO. I believe in bringing the best out of strains, think that's why many top breeders say "grow in organics for best taste". I just visited a friend in CO, who's been doing DWC for 20+ years, and we tested samples from his dro and his simple organics recipe I gave him to try. Samples came from same mom. Difference was subtle but noticeable. Then again, I have a very picky palate....that's why I do the cooking Someone else prob wouldn't taste the diff. Aren't Bodhi strains grown in organics? Please send me samples and I'll be glad to try

Anyway, I'm very open to the idea of a true organic hydro!!! That's why I'm running a mostly coco mix now...trying to get the best of both worlds (being growth and taste).

 

[TonightYou]

I've found that yes, most of the time a hay or grassy tasting/smelling strain is from a shitty cure and dry. But I've also had properly dried and cured shit tasting hay. Sometimes it's the genetics.


With regards to what SSDD tastes and smells like, I've got two keepers. The first smells like candy and has a very sweet taste to it. She is delicious to say the least. Now the other SSDD I'm keeping has a creamy, Blueberry - esque Muffin Smell And Taste To Her. The high/effect are the same. Very relaxing, don't give a fuck evening smoke. Was a very good pain relieving strain to boot.

 

[Amos Otis]

I've never had a heri cross like that. I've done both the KO Kush f4 from Sannie and Anesthesia from Breeder's Choice, and I liked the taste of both quite a bit. KO Kush was very similar to Bubba but with an added dark roast coffee taste, and Anesthesia was a bold, dark, earthy, very old school taste. The KO probably had an overall more pleasing taste, while the anesthesia was stronger in effect (my keeper tested at 25.4% THC). They do not have many/any influences from the lighter tastes, but I certainly wouldn't call them putrid.


I always find unflushed weed, soil or hydro, unpalatable; and I can tell in one hit if it was nute pushed until chop or not. And there's such a thing as alcohol free bourbon?



I fail to see what hydro/synthetics have to do with your argument? Perhaps you have just had poorly grown hydro product?

I edited to reply to a couple of your points. In reverse order. I almost replied to Red about his hydro complaint in the same fashion. I do DWC, and found long ago that a minimum 10 day flush is essential for taste and good burn. I'd like to know more about your molasses formula.

These are the herijuana strains I've sampled: fem Herijuana and Extrema [Sannies], Ronnie James Dio [MotaRebel], Williams Wonder/Herijuana [MotaRebel-Woodhorse]. Also had an 0 for 10 on germ from heriberry [woodhorse] and never bothered to try the replacements.

The best [of the worst] is the WW/heri [potency/late night effect]. The taste has mellowed a bit from 10 weeks in a jar, but still......Ronnie James was the best[of the worst] flavor, but the potency was, like the fem Heri, no more than a C, which pi$$es me off because of the sales hype. Extrema was a B- buzz with an even worse taste than all the rest. The people that got some either of the Sannies specifically asked for something else, but that's a very small sample.

All that said, I can't stand Mountain Dew, and millions love it, so I allow that not everyone loves fruits and berries and not everyone hates pine and rotten pine. The alcohol free Bourbon? Just making a more emphatic point than O'Douhls [sic]. Cheers.

 

[RedCarpetMatches]

I'm not knocking DWC guys/gals!!! I'm just saying I like knowing 'exactly' what's in my smoke and to me, it simply tastes better to my extremely picky palate. Bottles and synthetics...been there done that.

Peace, and at least we have Bhodi in common.

 

[TonightYou]

Yea not to derail, but nutes are nutes and you can overdo it. Taste comes from a proper dry and cure. People claiming flushes makes a difference should really try and find science behind the claim. Most of the time it's the bias of wanting to see and believe something we did makes the difference and misattributing x causing y.

I once had someone who's been growing longer than I have sample my wares and said "wow, taste great you must Have done a two week flush". Yes I don't flush unless I get lockout from not paying attention to my feeding frequency. The flushing for taste myth needs to go the way of the dodo with the same wives tales of hanging plants for resin dripping and putting orange peels in curing jars.

 

[RedCarpetMatches]

What's flushing?!?! What does it do? If you grow a plant for months in synth, do you think you can just flush out its chems in days!? Bottled is synth...even if it says '100% organic'. Has anyone here tried buds grown in real living thriving soil, 'cooked' amendments in there soil mix, amendments readily available for the microbes in soil...that team with the plant for all of its needs, watered with a freshly brewed kelp/alfalfa/compost/seed sprout tea, or no pest prob run due to my immune healthy strong ass plant that you need a pipe wrench to super crop? Does anyone here have a worm bin? Nothing beats vermicompost!!! My SSDD male smelled as good as any plant I've grown! His balls smelled 'fruit of the loins' Pictures and yield don't say anything for taste. I am biased now because I've tried hydro, bottles, 'organics', and real living soil with a real spectrum. Can't knock it till ya try it, and boy have I tried a lot.

Really sorry for the mood switching rant, but that ugly "f" word really lights a fire under my hemroids. I feel sorry for derailing this thread momentarily. Please PM me if there's something you want to debate, learn, or school me on.

 

[TonightYou]

What's flushing?!?! What does it do? If you grow a plant for months in synth, do you think you can just flush out its chems in days!? Bottled is synth...even if it says '100% organic'. Has anyone here tried buds grown in real living thriving soil, 'cooked' amendments in there soil mix, amendments readily available for the microbes in soil...that team with the plant for all of its needs, watered with a freshly brewed kelp/alfalfa/compost/seed sprout tea, or no pest prob run due to my immune healthy strong ass plant that you need a pipe wrench to super crop? Does anyone here have a worm bin? Nothing beats vermicompost!!! My SSDD male smelled as good as any plant I've grown! His balls smelled 'fruit of the loins' Pictures and yield don't say anything for taste. I am biased now because I've tried hydro, bottles, 'organics', and real living soil with a real spectrum. Can't knock it till ya try it, and boy have I tried a lot.

Really sorry for the mood switching rant, but that ugly "f" word really lights a fire under my hemroids. I feel sorry for derailing this thread momentarily. Please PM me if there's something you want to debate, learn, or school me on.

I tried getting a organic setup indoors worm bin and all. My apartment is simply too small to have the space I need to properly prepare soil mixtures and what not. Plus I can't be hauling up a bunch of shit plus waiting to meet the demands of my garden. I would totally be doing organic route if I had the space and time like I use to with my outdoor garden back when I was in a home. I'd much rather go the organic route again, but it's simply too much work to fit my space and current life circumstances of working full time, writing a thesis, and doing an internship with my fucked up spine.

 

[st0wandgrow]

Anyone grown both SSDD and Lucky Charms, and if so which did you prefer and why?

Thanks

 

[Amos Otis]

I'm not knocking DWC guys/gals!!!

Are you sure?

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What's flushing?!?! What does it do? If you grow a plant for months in synth, do you think you can just flush out its chems in days!? Bottled is synth...even if it says '100% organic'. Has anyone here tried buds grown in real living thriving soil, 'cooked' amendments in there soil mix, amendments readily available for the microbes in soil...that team with the plant for all of its needs, watered with a freshly brewed kelp/alfalfa/compost/seed sprout tea, or no pest prob run due to my immune healthy strong ass plant that you need a pipe wrench to super crop? Does anyone here have a worm bin? Nothing beats vermicompost!!! My SSDD male smelled as good as any plant I've grown! His balls smelled 'fruit of the loins' Pictures and yield don't say anything for taste. I am biased now because I've tried hydro, bottles, 'organics', and real living soil with a real spectrum. Can't knock it till ya try it, and boy have I tried a lot.

Really sorry for the mood switching rant, but that ugly "f" word really lights a fire under my hemroids. I feel sorry for derailing this thread momentarily. Please PM me if there's something you want to debate, learn, or school me on.

I'm going to be address your rant in a frank way with no insults intended regardless of how it may sound.

Personally, I could care less if you are one with the marijuana plant, and in fact lived a past life as ganja with 10 foot roots dug into a cliff in Jamaica, mon. I seriously doubt it, however. But I'm not going to rant about how you go about your business if it's not how I go about it> So why do you?

If you ever see me make a declaritive statement that my approach to filling my cupboards if the best way of doing things, feel free to cry BS. I'm fairly certain Clankie never stated his weed tastes better than yours, and I know I didn't. That's sounds a little too 6th grade to me, if I could actually remember 6th grade. All these blowhards having to prove themselves to internet avatars is sort of silly to me; what do you think?

I recall just a couple of days ago someone declining your invitation for a 'grow off', or some such, saying they weren't into competition. What's with you. Ya wanna arm wrestle after?

If you in fact ran DWC as you said, and ran your reservoir with nutes up to harvest, you'd need a torch per toke and your 'ash' would be a hard ball of charoal insted a an evenly burning white ash. Why don't you know that?

Last thing: there's only one of us in this discussion that cares about impressing avatars with their skill level, vast knowledge and 'picky palate'. You have a wom bin? Wow - how impressive!

To end my rant, I have no plans to enter any cannabis cups again this year. Really. I swear. But a mostly no fuss no guess no dirt no pest method of supplying good quality meds - im my opinion, not yours Paula Deen - suits me just fine. I'm a lot better at it than years ago, and some is because of information I picked up from some pretty cool people on sites like this one. And even informitive pricks occasionally pass along something helpful. Be sure to keep us posted on the 12/12fs BOs.

And just to demonstrate no hard feelings here - you da man, RedCarpetMatches !!

 

[Amos Otis]

^ screw the typos.

What's going on in the world of Bodhi? Goji clones in the middle @ day 10 12/12, just to get back on topic.

 

[RedCarpetMatches]

Are you sure?

• EWW...YUCK...that's why I hate hydro,
  
  
  
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I'm going to be address your rant in a frank way with no insults intended regardless of how it may sound.

Personally, I could care less if you are one with the marijuana plant, and in fact lived a past life as ganja with 10 foot roots dug into a cliff in Jamaica, mon. I seriously doubt it, however. But I'm not going to rant about how you go about your business if it's not how I go about it> So why do you?

If you ever see me make a declaritive statement that my approach to filling my cupboards if the best way of doing things, feel free to cry BS. I'm fairly certain Clankie never stated his weed tastes better than yours, and I know I didn't. That's sounds a little too 6th grade to me, if I could actually remember 6th grade. All these blowhards having to prove themselves to internet avatars is sort of silly to me; what do you think?

I recall just a couple of days ago someone declining your invitation for a 'grow off', or some such, saying they weren't into competition. What's with you. Ya wanna arm wrestle after?

If you in fact ran DWC as you said, and ran your reservoir with nutes up to harvest, you'd need a torch per toke and your 'ash' would be a hard ball of charoal insted a an evenly burning white ash. Why don't you know that?

Last thing: there's only one of us in this discussion that cares about impressing avatars with their skill level, vast knowledge and 'picky palate'. You have a wom bin? Wow - how impressive!

To end my rant, I have no plans to enter any cannabis cups again this year. Really. I swear. But a mostly no fuss no guess no dirt no pest method of supplying good quality meds - im my opinion, not yours Paula Deen - suits me just fine. I'm a lot better at it than years ago, and some is because of information I picked up from some pretty cool people on sites like this one. And even informitive pricks occasionally pass along something helpful. Be sure to keep us posted on the 12/12fs BOs.

And just to demonstrate no hard feelings here - you da man, RedCarpetMatches !!

Thanks for the bluntness! I like it rough. I was going to delete that last PMS bad day comment, but couldn't. Since we're on the subject...I just don't understand buying great (can't wait to see) genetics, only to not grow it for the best taste. My picky taste is a curse in some cases...she wonders why I don't go down on her more often. The grow off was a joke...not a good one. I didn't choose my flushing words wisely during my moody post. It's pointless in soil. In DWC it's a must. Dro taste is always 'crispy', minty, and Newport like no matter the strain or grower IME. Is that just me and my taste? I think it doesn't do the strains justice. Every DWC grower that I know, and when I ran it, flushed with plain water 7-10 days. Is that the reason for menthol like hints? I still have some of the equipment in case I wanted to give it another go. Like I said before, I'm very open minded.

PS I'd whoop you in arm wrestling.

 

[coolkid.02]

Anyway we can get this thread re-focused on Bodhi related topics? Lol.

 

[st0wandgrow]

Not to defend red (I would never do that), but here's how I see the whole organic vs synthetic nutrient thing .....

I am 100% certain that some very kick ass buds can be cropped using synthetics. I grew for years using bottled nutrients and I was mostly pleased with the results. If we step back and understand what's at play, and how the plant is deriving it's micro/macro uptake then what he's saying might make some sense. When you grow organically you are loading the soil with organic inputs before a plant ever hits the dirt, and providing the soil is well inoculated the plant (in conjunction with the billions of microbes in the medium) decides what it needs, and when it needs it. The plant is 100% in charge. Using synthetics the grower is in charge. You completely skip the soil food web, and instead have to determine how much of what and when to satisfy the plants needs. IMO, it takes a very experienced grower several rounds working with a particular strain to dial in the specific needs of said plant. At that point, perhaps a good gardener can come close to realizing the plants full genetic potential ...... but up until that point it's strictly guess work. A nutrient manufacturers feeding chart is just a ball-park guess at what that specific plant may need.

So, IMO, when you leave the plant and soil food web in charge you are pretty much going to realize the full genetic potential of any plant right from jump street. With synthetics it can be done, but it takes some time and a good eye.

 

[RedCarpetMatches]

Anyway we can get this thread re-focused on Bodhi related topics? Lol.

I accidentally pollinated the tops of my much bigger female SSDD, and not the smaller girl ;( At least I'll hit the genetic lottery. Now if I can only get her clone to root damn it.

 

[Amos Otis]

Not to defend red (I would never do that), but here's how I see the whole organic vs synthetic nutrient thing .....

I am 100% certain that some very kick ass buds can be cropped using synthetics. I grew for years using bottled nutrients and I was mostly pleased with the results. If we step back and understand what's at play, and how the plant is deriving it's micro/macro uptake then what he's saying might make some sense. When you grow organically you are loading the soil with organic inputs before a plant ever hits the dirt, and providing the soil is well inoculated the plant (in conjunction with the billions of microbes in the medium) decides what it needs, and when it needs it. The plant is 100% in charge. Using synthetics the grower is in charge. You completely skip the soil food web, and instead have to determine how much of what and when to satisfy the plants needs. IMO, it takes a very experienced grower several rounds working with a particular strain to dial in the specific needs of said plant. At that point, perhaps a good gardener can come close to realizing the plants full genetic potential ...... but up until that point it's strictly guess work. A nutrient manufacturers feeding chart is just a ball-park guess at what that specific plant may need.

So, IMO, when you leave the plant and soil food web in charge you are pretty much going to realize the full genetic potential of any plant right from jump street. With synthetics it can be done, but it takes some time and a good eye.

Okay....maybe I need to put it another way.

I've known many women..........[wait for it].....and I've known many that were almost chef quality cooks. I'll use spaghetti sauce to illustrate: these chef-like women used only fresh vegetables picked at the height of ripeness, choice cuts of meat, several spices in combinations calculaters cannot compute....cooked for hours, simmered for a couple more hours......stirring and tasting all thru the process, adding a little this or that along the way as their expert taste buds indicated.

When finally poured on the pasta, there was no denying - more often than not, it was awesome. I ate, enjoyed, and was satisfied.

When I make spaghetti, the sauce comes from a jar - hey, I've got class! - no cans for me. It heats up in about 10 minutes, which is about as long as the pasta takes to cook. Grill some store bought garlic bread, open a bag'o'salad', and dinner is on is 15 minutes or less. No kelp, no worms, no....oh, wait, that's another recipe. And it's a good meal. But even better: for the work I put into it, it's a damm fine meal. I'd bet most of you with less fine tuned palates couldn't tell a lot, if any, difference in my 'recipe' and these pseudo-chef babes - but I never told any of them that until I was ready to....you know....eat somewhere else.

And when I eat my own cooking, it's most often tasty and satifying....there's more of it....and the effort is far less both physically, but more importantly, mentally. And that's where I'm coming from. You can follow that thought from gourmet cooking to most things in my world. Real good w/ little effort and mental gymnastics > the 'best I've ever had' complete w/ worms and kelp and such.

The glorious thing, doncha know, is if we all think we're enjoying our crops, we probably are.

 

[TonightYou]

Thanks for the bluntness! I like it rough. I was going to delete that last PMS bad day comment, but couldn't. Since we're on the subject...I just don't understand buying great (can't wait to see) genetics, only to not grow it for the best taste. My picky taste is a curse in some cases...she wonders why I don't go down on her more often. The grow off was a joke...not a good one. I didn't choose my flushing words wisely during my moody post. It's pointless in soil. In DWC it's a must. Dro taste is always 'crispy', minty, and Newport like no matter the strain or grower IME. Is that just me and my taste? I think it doesn't do the strains justice. Every DWC grower that I know, and when I ran it, flushed with plain water 7-10 days. Is that the reason for menthol like hints? I still have some of the equipment in case I wanted to give it another go. Like I said before, I'm very open minded.

PS I'd whoop you in arm wrestling.

It's just you and your taste. I can bet dollars to donuts you couldn't pick out of a line up how a properly dried and cured bud was grow. I've smoked so much bud from so many different growers with different styles. If it's done right, it's done right. I think it's just you having a personal bias.

Anyways. Back to the bodhi. Chopping two superstitious tomorrow. Excited.


Edited to add the food Web is important in certain mediums and even with synthetic fertilizer plays a role. Studies have shown that synthetic fertilizers don't destroy all micro organisms, contrary to popular myth

 

[Amos Otis]

I just don't understand buying great (can't wait to see) genetics, only to not grow it for the best taste.

Dro taste is always 'crispy', minty, and Newport like no matter the strain or grower IME. Is that just me and my taste?

Because good genetics trump crap when brought to healthy maturity regardless of medium and method.

Crispy, minty, and Newport? That applies to nothing in my pantry, not even the frowned upon heri and her kin. You must have been really fkkking something up, is all I can guess.

 

[Flaming Pie]

Hey on the bay does bodhi give freebies with packs you purchase?

I am hesitant to buyout anything because the bank transfer thingy scares me. I'm really careful about stuff like that and mailing money just seems confusing and complicated.

Seedsman bluberryhill looks so good to me but I can't afford 160 dollar seed purchase right now.