Another shooting in a Maryland Mall

[pSi007]

Think about a "Gun license", guys and gals.. It would be like a driving license. A responsible person needs to keep up-to-date on their driving permits, why can't the same be done for gun ownership? I know the repugs will oppose but in all solutions of trivial and responsible matters, an up-to-date, "Gun license" would promote proper usage and handling of firearms.

You can continue to own the property, as if it was a car, but to have the item outside of the home should be a violation unless they pass the "gun license" review. It should entail psychological review of owners who wish to be able to use their weapon outside of their own property.

hopefully, it would allow the able-minded people to defend a situation properly.. Geez.. just think if everyone had liberty and the ability to carry a gun.. Think of all the additional weight the item would weigh on the mentality, as well as the body.. millions of delusions of grandeur and physical prowess, the combined weight of the steel alone would fill the scared body of society into delusion..

It really could be a scary place, even if I believe in self-defense.

 

[El Tiberon]

It's not about "caring" as much as it is about not blaming an object for the actions of human beings, which is exactly what people do EVERY single time somebody does stupid shit with a firearm.

It's a PEOPLE issue, not an "object" issue.

I support killing motherfuckers that are caught using firearms for this kind of violence, which is an attack on the PERSON doing the crime, and not the tool.

Sadly, the overwhelming majority of those who want to ban firearms do not hold the same opinion, and would rather restrict the rights of fellow citizens than hold individuals accountable for their actions.

It's not the gun, the bomb, the axe, the bat, or the hammer, it's the dumb ass motherfucker wielding it that's the "problem". Banning shit doesn't do a g'damn thing....unless everybody on this forum is pretending to possess, cultivate, and enjoy a supposedly banned product.

Using violence as a tool to discourage violence only perpetuates more violence. You are equally responsible for any escalation of violence by supporting such a policy.

 

[racerboy71]

It's not about "caring" as much as it is about not blaming an object for the actions of human beings, which is exactly what people do EVERY single time somebody does stupid shit with a firearm.

It's a PEOPLE issue, not an "object" issue.

I support killing motherfuckers that are caught using firearms for this kind of violence, which is an attack on the PERSON doing the crime, and not the tool.

Sadly, the overwhelming majority of those who want to ban firearms do not hold the same opinion, and would rather restrict the rights of fellow citizens than hold individuals accountable for their actions.

It's not the gun, the bomb, the axe, the bat, or the hammer, it's the dumb ass motherfucker wielding it that's the "problem". Banning shit doesn't do a g'damn thing....unless everybody on this forum is pretending to possess, cultivate, and enjoy a supposedly banned product.

i agree with this point, but in the other post, trying to blame a car that killed someone in an accident as opposed to someone who willingly and knowingly takes a gun and goes into a mall and kills people are two very different things imvho..

i agree, if it weren't for guns, people would simply use w/e else was around to do their killing for them if they were so inclined to kill someone.. look to the middle east, how many people are killed with guns over there? now how many suicide bombers do you hear about where someone straps a bomb onto their back and walks into a mall and blows up people? i hear more about the latter personally..

but yeah, i agree, it's not the weapon that's to blame, it's the nut job so hell bent on wanting to kill others for w/e reason that needs to be examined..

 

[racerboy71]

Think about a "Gun license", guys and gals.. It would be like a driving license. A responsible person needs to keep up-to-date on their driving permits, why can't the same be done for gun ownership? I know the repugs will oppose but in all solutions of trivial and responsible matters, an up-to-date, "Gun license" would promote proper usage and handling of firearms.

You can continue to own the property, as if it was a car, but to have the item outside of the home should be a violation unless they pass the "gun license" review. It should entail psychological review of owners who wish to be able to use their weapon outside of their own property.

hopefully, it would allow the able-minded people to defend a situation properly.. Geez.. just think if everyone had liberty and the ability to carry a gun.. Think of all the additional weight the item would weigh on the mentality, as well as the body.. millions of delusions of grandeur and physical prowess, the combined weight of the steel alone would fill the scared body of society into delusion..

It really could be a scary place, even if I believe in self-defense.

things like you're proposing only work for law abiding citizens, and not the criminals who already have guns, or have easy access to guns..
the saying if you outlaw guns, only outlaws will have guns comes to mind..

 

[MasterTHunderfuCk]

things like you're proposing only work for law abiding citizens, and not the criminals who already have guns, or have easy access to guns..
the saying if you outlaw guns, only outlaws will have guns comes to mind..

You're exactly right..just like there is a black market for drugs theres also a black market for guns and other weapons..they will still be widely available if someone wants one

 

[BSD0621]

It's not about "caring" as much as it is about not blaming an object for the actions of human beings, which is exactly what people do EVERY single time somebody does stupid shit with a firearm.

It's a PEOPLE issue, not an "object" issue.

I support killing motherfuckers that are caught using firearms for this kind of violence, which is an attack on the PERSON doing the crime, and not the tool.

Sadly, the overwhelming majority of those who want to ban firearms do not hold the same opinion, and would rather restrict the rights of fellow citizens than hold individuals accountable for their actions.

It's not the gun, the bomb, the axe, the bat, or the hammer, it's the dumb ass motherfucker wielding it that's the "problem". Banning shit doesn't do a g'damn thing....unless everybody on this forum is pretending to possess, cultivate, and enjoy a supposedly banned product.

I do agree with it's the persons fault, not the gun aspect but killing someone over killing a person?? WTF is that?

 

[BSD0621]

You're exactly right..just like there is a black market for drugs theres also a black market for guns and other weapons..they will still be widely available if someone wants one

Not to mention the black market is VERY profitable... Compare this to LEGAL cannabis and you take the money out of said "criminals". Which, if I remember correctly LAWS make criminals, not the acts.

 

[racerboy71]

I do agree with it's the persons fault, not the gun aspect but killing someone over killing a person?? WTF is that?

completely agree, which is my major problem with the death penalty..

saying killing is wrong, so we're going to kill the killer some how doesn't sit right with me..

 

[MasterTHunderfuCk]

Not to mention the black market is VERY profitable... Compare this to LEGAL cannabis and you take the money out of said "criminals". Which, if I remember correctly LAWS make criminals, not the acts.

that's what most opposers don't understand! its simple; taking away the right to own a gun just gives the "criminal" an advantage.

 

[collector]

It isn't the guns - I don't remember these shootings as a boy, when I could get a firearm, no questions asked at an early age - it is something else but we should certainly try to find out what it is.

The lack of parenting and the increase in the use of psychotropic drugs may have a lot to do with these shootings.

 

[NLXSK1]

completely agree, which is my major problem with the death penalty..

saying killing is wrong, so we're going to kill the killer some how doesn't sit right with me..

We say killing is wrong yet kill thousands of people in other countries a year in wars... Does that sit right with you?

As far as the death penalty. I do not look at this as punishment of the individual, I look at is as society removing a member that will never be productive and has proven to be extremely destructive.

 

[El Tiberon]

that's what most opposers don't understand! its simple; taking away the right to own a gun just gives the "criminal" an advantage.

The citizens of Japan and other countries would argue against this statement successfully.

 

[tip top toker]

Another shooting in america. Oh golly. People (outside the us) gave up giving a shit about things like this a long while back. You guys and your sensible gun laws made it a rather repetitive and expected event, change it up ffs, break out another fertiliser bomb already, give us something to actually be shocked by.

 

[NLXSK1]

The citizens of Japan and other countries would argue against this statement successfully.

The citizens of Japan are protected by America's big guns... LOL!!!

 

[El Tiberon]

Another shooting in america. Oh golly. People (outside the us) gave up giving a shit about things like this a long while back. You guys and your sensible gun laws made it a rather repetitive and expected event, change it up ffs, break out another fertiliser bomb already, give us something to actually be shocked by.

An overwhelming majority of US citizens have never left the US. They believe they have "freedom" because of repetitive statements and the spin-cycle of television.

 

[El Tiberon]

The citizens of Japan are protected by America's big guns... LOL!!!

There are no Americans carrying weapons publicly or privately in Japan. The JP themselves only carry slapsticks. The US also has no influence on how Japan enforces the laws within her borders.

 

[desert dude]

Only this time, for me it was a little different. My daughter works there and was 30 feet away from the entire incident. She saw bodies of people shot through the head up close.


She is pretty upset. I read the comments on the article and they are the same crap. "another gun free zone", "if law abiding people had guns this wouoldn't happen" and all the rest of the gibberish that those who are not directly affected but think that any gun control equates to confiscation. Of course those folks conveniently ignore reality in favor of their distorted views and logic.


I'm not saying that guns should be confiscated, you know my stand on posession but seriously, this is getting old, and the gun wackos idiotic commenst (as those that will surely follow shortly) are out what ever might pass for reality.

It isn't the guns - I don't remember these shootings as a boy, when I could get a firearm, no questions asked at an early age - it is something else but we should certainly try to find out what it is.


How free can you really be if you feel the need to carry a firearm around with you for protection, and how free are you when you may well be shot by some citizen for throwing popcorn, or watching a movie, or shopping for furniture in a mall?

This is yet another form of tyranny through fear that the right fails to address in their all out hatred of government.

There has not been an increase in "mass shootings". The number is pretty steady and has been for decades. Crazy people do crazy things, and I really don't think there is anything that can be done to prevent it.

Life can be dangerous and invariably ends in death.

 

[spandy]

There has not been an increase in "mass shootings". The number is pretty steady and has been for decades. Crazy people do crazy things, and I really don't think there is anything that can be done to prevent it.

Life can be dangerous and invariably ends in death.

Only thing that has changed is the response time of media and their ability to show you the details of a single shooting over and over and over again on hundreds of stations and thousands of websites. It isn't happening more, we are just force fed the details about each incident with a scoop shovel.

 

[MFB]

Interesting discussion. You all make good points. I'll leave it at that.

 

[cannabineer]

Interesting discussion. You all make good points. I'll leave it at that.

Kind a nice for this section, no? I like it when there is a real exchange of opinions and not just the tiresome evaluation of each other's personal merits ...