Another shooting in a Maryland Mall

Balke Buds

Balke Buds

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DutchKillsRambo said:
Do you have a citation for this partisan rhetoric? Like how do you know all these spree killers are "liberals?" Are you just making it up of are you gonna try and pull out that chain email that claims everyone from McVeigh to Lanza was a registered Democrat?

And the 2nd Amendment is very vague. There's just been over 200 years of politicians, lawyers, activists, and judges discussing it.
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Yeah, just making it up....nothing to see here....same old story...truth be damned.

The 2nd Ammendment is not vague....just because some fucktards who think they are smarter than everyone else debates it does not mean it is vague....it means that any one can distort anything to further their argument which causes conversations like this one.
 
DutchKillsRambo

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Balke Buds said:
Yeah, just making it up....nothing to see here....same old story...truth be damned.

The 2nd Ammendment is not vague....just because some fucktards who think they are smarter than everyone else debates it does not mean it is vague....it means that any one can distort anything to further their argument which causes conversations like this one.
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Define "arms". Define "militia". Define "well-regulated". It's legal-ese. Of course its vague.
 
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beenthere

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A little fact for everyone to ponder: There's never been a recorded murder committed in the US by a law abiding concealed carry citizen, not one.
 
kpmarine

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beenthere said:
A little fact for everyone to ponder: There's never been a recorded murder committed in the US by a law abiding concealed carry citizen, not one.
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And no law abiding person in general has murdered someone. Your point?

Meanwhile, here are some folks with ccw's that have murdered people. I was actually impressed by the amount. It's a little concerning.

http://www.wzzm13.com/news/article/268289/280/Enraged-drivers-shoot-kill-each-other

http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2012/jan/12/accused-strip-club-shooter-takes-stand/?banner=1

http://hinterlandgazette.com/2013/04/dennis-clark-iii-kills-ceasar-valdovinos-3-others-after-domestic-dispute-girlfriend-federal-way-wa.html


No murder here, but not for lack of trying. I found this one to be particularly concerning though. Assholes just drove around shooting at each other.
http://www.jsonline.com/news/crime/pair-of-men-with-concealed-carry-permits-engage-in-rolling-road-rage-shootout-b9953189z1-215267661.html
 
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beenthere

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kpmarine said:
And no law abiding person in general has murdered someone. Your point?

Meanwhile, here are some folks with ccw's that have murdered people. I was actually impressed by the amount. It's a little concerning.

http://www.wzzm13.com/news/article/268289/280/Enraged-drivers-shoot-kill-each-other

http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2012/jan/12/accused-strip-club-shooter-takes-stand/?banner=1

http://hinterlandgazette.com/2013/04/dennis-clark-iii-kills-ceasar-valdovinos-3-others-after-domestic-dispute-girlfriend-federal-way-wa.html


No murder here, but not for lack of trying. I found this one to be particularly concerning though. Assholes just drove around shooting at each other.
http://www.jsonline.com/news/crime/pair-of-men-with-concealed-carry-permits-engage-in-rolling-road-rage-shootout-b9953189z1-215267661.html
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Just a play on words my friend, good catch.
 
UncleBuck

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beenthere said:
And I might add, the 2nd amendment, notwithstanding of a well armed militia, gave the right of the people to keep bear and arms.
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but not any and all arms.

Miller’s holding ... finds support in the historical tradition of prohibiting the carrying of dangerous and unusual weapons.
 
DutchKillsRambo

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Antidisestablishmentarian said:
Arms- weapons

militia- at the time, all men period.

Well regulated-you could shoot

It's all been defined. Not vague at all.
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So then all men that can shoot, at all times, should have all weapons available to them. Does this seem like the way things are in America today?

I don't mean it's vague because I think it leaves room for limits, rather that it's vague because it's couched in legal language from 230+ years ago. I do believe in the unrestricted access to most types of firearms to most people. I even think the Class III license procedures need a vast overhaul. I may be wrong but I think there's only something like 5 people that work on those case files. For the entirety of the US.

Banning magazine sizes and certain guns because they look scary is absolutely retarded. But i'm also not against smart legislation about guns. If it exists. The whole situation is stupidly political and polarizing. Like most things I think if you're not hurting anyone else, knock yourself the fuck out
 
DutchKillsRambo

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beenthere said:
Ah No, I was 100% accurate, I don't lie.
It obviously flew right over your head, but kpmarine was sharp enough to catch it.
I guess UncleBuck wasn't smart enough either, he gave you a like for being dull minded.
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No law abiding child rapist has ever fucked a child. By your logic, this statement is also correct. I got what you were saying, but I also got what you were trying to say.

If it was clever play on words, it failed. Troubles with internet conveying sarcasm and all.
 
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beenthere

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DutchKillsRambo said:
No law abiding child rapist has ever fucked a child. By your logic, this statement is also correct. I got what you were saying, but I also got what you were trying to say.

If it was clever play on words, it failed. Troubles with internet conveying sarcasm and all.
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No such thing as a "law abiding child rapist"
Like i said, kpmarine picked up on right away, sorry.
You're not very good at this, are you. :bigjoint:
 
UncleBuck

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beenthere said:
Obama never said you could keep your healthcare.
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did i ever promise anyone anything about their health care? nope.

but you did fall for the skewed polls idiocy head over heels.

You're not very good at this, are you? (<----notice how i ended this with the appropriate question mark instead of a period, clayton)
 
DutchKillsRambo

DutchKillsRambo

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beenthere said:
No such thing as a "law abiding child rapist"
Like i said, kpmarine picked up on right away, sorry.
You're not very good at this, are you. :bigjoint:
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Law-abiding and murderer are mutually exclusive. I understand the play on words, but it still comes off as a statement saying that CCW holders have never murdered. Add a :) at the end or something and more people will realize the sarcasm. I don't spend as much time arguing with the same 6-8 people in Politics as you.
 
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beenthere

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DutchKillsRambo said:
Law-abiding and murderer are mutually exclusive. I understand the play on words, but it still comes off as a statement saying that CCW holders have never murdered. Add a :) at the end or something and more people will realize the sarcasm. I don't spend as much time arguing with the same 6-8 people in Politics as you.
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Dude, like i said many times, kpmarine caught it right away.
I was waiting for some stupid leftie like UB, Cheezy or see4 to run with it and look like a fool, no offense.
 
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beenthere

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UncleBuck said:
did i ever promise anyone anything about their health care? nope.

but you did fall for the skewed polls idiocy head over heels.

You're not very good at this, are you? (<----notice how i ended this with the appropriate question mark instead of a period, clayton)
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Hey Unclebuck, Obama never said you could keep your doctor, if you like your doctor, right? LOL
 
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