Stew's Breeding Project 2013

SxIstew

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Just waiting on the SOS order to come in with my SHORELINE! Lol... Gonna start some:
Shoreline x5
Golden Haze x2 (Devil's Harvest)
Stew's Purple Nightmare F1 x10
WW x Amnesia x1
Black Domina x G13 x1
Strawberry Sour Diesel x2
Auto Purple x1
Spyder x2
HSO Blue Dream x1
Stewed Skunk x2
Jack's Wet Dream x2

I have a few sprouts to pull because they won't do anything. And a mutant I haven't decided on yet... I should have 99 total by the time the next batch of seeds is popped.. just waiting on the order.
 

Chronic Masterbator

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Are the sprouts growing slow? I had a favorite super critical sensi star mom that started off super slow. But that bitch put me out with like 1-2 tokes. Some times the slow ones are bomb. But the clones grew supper quick. I think these kind are Indy Dom.

I was thinking of going with sos once. But they only accept bit coin. Where do you get Yer coin from? I just don't wanna lose real money on some fake money. Know what I mean? They have stock of strains I'm looking for.
 

SxIstew

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Are the sprouts growing slow? I had a favorite super critical sensi star mom that started off super slow. But that bitch put me out with like 1-2 tokes. Some times the slow ones are bomb. But the clones grew supper quick. I think these kind are Indy Dom.

I was thinking of going with sos once. But they only accept bit coin. Where do you get Yer coin from? I just don't wanna lose real money on some fake money. Know what I mean? They have stock of strains I'm looking for.
I did a straight bank transfer. BUT... their site glitched and charged me USD as equal to GBP. So I only paid 67 for a 120 dollar order. ;)
 

Chronic Masterbator

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Eh Stew I went to sos and a message flashes saying they only accept bit coin?? So if I tried doing the bank transfer they'll still process the order?
 

SxIstew

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Hey buddy sorry. Been cleaning. ..

Yeah they will still process the order. You reply to their email to you AFTER you make the payment. Overseas transfers take about a week to process.
I should get a tracking number from them tomorrow though. They email you back pretty quick. Not a computer response either.
 

Chronic Masterbator

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Fuck I'm dying to start. Stacking gear and looking for a good spot to open shop. I still have to look out for grandparents too they're old. So I help em out with dough. I predict I'll be starting indoor bout Feb or March. My outdoor will start in May.
 

Blitzedgrowkid08

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Are the sprouts growing slow? I had a favorite super critical sensi star mom that started off super slow. But that bitch put me out with like 1-2 tokes. Some times the slow ones are bomb. But the clones grew supper quick. I think these kind are Indy Dom.

I was thinking of going with sos once. But they only accept bit coin. Where do you get Yer coin from? I just don't wanna lose real money on some fake money. Know what I mean? They have stock of strains I'm looking for.
My critical sensi star is a mainstay in my garden!!! Most potent shit I've come across yet! Love this strain!
 

Blitzedgrowkid08

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Paged through a lot of this thread and I'm impressed! Gunna pull up a chair if you don't mind? I have a spyder auto going now and I think it's a male!:). Planning on dusting my CSS from delicious along with a select pheno of Qrazy train and working those into semi autos for me up north in the great outdoors!
 

SxIstew

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If crossing for auto youll need to run to the F5 generation or later. If you have questions or need help just ask buddy. Welcome aboard

Paged through a lot of this thread and I'm impressed! Gunna pull up a chair if you don't mind? I have a spyder auto going now and I think it's a male!:). Planning on dusting my CSS from delicious along with a select pheno of Qrazy train and working those into semi autos for me up north in the great outdoors!
 

Blitzedgrowkid08

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If crossing for auto youll need to run to the F5 generation or later. If you have questions or need help just ask buddy. Welcome aboard
I plan on taking each strain two ways. One being early more light sensitive plants for me outdoors here at 48 degs. Probably take it to f2/3 breeding for plants that flower under 16-15 hrs of light. I will also selectively pic for potent/auto flowering characteristics. I was told on another forum by an outdoor Canadian breeder of over twenty plus years that the autoflower trait is dominant rather than recessive like most think and with continued inbreeding the trait will merely emerge on its own. He said to focus on yield/potency and the auto trait will come out. Any opinions as I took this with a grain of salt but who really knows till ya do it I guess? He's really well respected in his group of ppl and his genetics are proven! It's a secure site but easy to get on to and great deals and fast flowering potent strains. Mostly outdoor but definitely some crazy indoor shit too. Pm me if interested otherwise I'm done rambling lol, but what's ur take on the subject? Happy growin!
 

SxIstew

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He is correct. But it is all selective breeding till F5 for the autoflower trait to be locked in AND a stable IBL strain.

If you look up Along Came A Spyder on google and link back to the original thread(first post on ACAS) it is explained by Canned Abyss breeder for Black Creek Gardens. Its posted up in here somewhere but the pages have since grown long. Lol

Keep me updated with your progress and let me kniw if you need anything.

I plan on taking each strain two ways. One being early more light sensitive plants for me outdoors here at 48 degs. Probably take it to f2/3 breeding for plants that flower under 16-15 hrs of light. I will also selectively pic for potent/auto flowering characteristics. I was told on another forum by an outdoor Canadian breeder of over twenty plus years that the autoflower trait is dominant rather than recessive like most think and with continued inbreeding the trait will merely emerge on its own. He said to focus on yield/potency and the auto trait will come out. Any opinions as I took this with a grain of salt but who really knows till ya do it I guess? He's really well respected in his group of ppl and his genetics are proven! It's a secure site but easy to get on to and great deals and fast flowering potent strains. Mostly outdoor but definitely some crazy indoor shit too. Pm me if interested otherwise I'm done rambling lol, but what's ur take on the subject? Happy growin!
 

Blitzedgrowkid08

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He is correct. But it is all selective breeding till F5 for the autoflower trait to be locked in AND a stable IBL strain.

If you look up Along Came A Spyder on google and link back to the original thread(first post on ACAS) it is explained by Canned Abyss breeder for Black Creek Gardens. Its posted up in here somewhere but the pages have since grown long. Lol

Keep me updated with your progress and let me kniw if you need anything.
I will likely have many questions lol! I'm subbed up so ill be around. I follow Danks stuff as well. Got his purple fire and a few others going now. Great work u guys do!
 

Blitzedgrowkid08

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forget about recessive dom...throw that right out of your brain for now... think PC if you want an auto PC you must breed for PC selection, it will be very hard for 10-15 because you have to find a very close looking PC and hope you find a PC pheno with potency because breeding a low potency PC will right away send you in the wrong place even if it looks PC. I'd smoke dried elephant snot if it was 30% thc...lol Thats why I select always for potency first and then looks smells second, if at all.


The LR gene can NOT be stopped, call it what you want but once its breed in its coming by F4 or 5 no matter how you select, even if you try your best to choose all NON autoing parents. I call it dom, you call it recessive but in fact it may fall into a terminology of somewhere in between...


therefore these relationship below must be considered... My personal thought is knowone knows for sure yet, but an auto x photo does show a very small% of auto in the f1 therefore I'm lead closer to believe in some form of a dominate gene????


Relationship to other genetic concepts


The concept of dominance is involved with a number of other genetic concepts.
Multiple alleles


Although any individual of a diploid organism has at most two different alleles at any one locus, most genes exist in a large number of allelic versions in the population as a whole. If the alleles have different effects on the phenotype, sometimes their dominance interactions with each other can be described as a series. In another example, coat color in siamese cats[4] and related breeds is determined by a series of alleles at the albino gene locus (c) that produce different levels of pigment and hence different levels of color dilution. Four of these are c+, cb, cs, and ca (standard, Birman, siamese, and albino, respectively), where the first allele is completely dominant to the last three, and the last is completely recessive to the first three.
Complete dominance


Complete dominance occurs when the phenotype of the heterozygote is completely indistinguishable from that of the dominant homozygote.
Incomplete and semi-dominance


Incomplete dominance occurs when the phenotype of the heterozygous genotype is distinct from and often intermediate to the phenotypes of the homozygous genotypes. For example, the snapdragon flower color is either homozygous for red or white. When the red homozygous flower is paired with the white homozygous flower, the result yields a pink snapdragon flower. The pink snapdragon is the result of incomplete dominance. A similar type of incomplete dominance is found in the four o'clock plant wherein pink color is produced when true-bred parents of white and red flowers are crossed. In quantitative genetics, where phenotypes are measured and treated numerically, if a heterozygote's phenotype is exactly between (numerically) that of the two homozygotes, the phenotype is said to exhibit no dominance at all, i.e. dominance exists only when the heterozygote's phenotype measure lies closer to one homozygote than the other.


When plants of the F1 generation are self-pollinated, the phenotypic and genotypic ratio of the F2 generation will be 1:2:1 (Red:Pink:White) for both generations.[5]
Co-dominance
Co-dominance in a Camellia cultivar
A and B blood types in humans show co-dominance, but the O type is recessive to A and B.
Main article: Codominance


Co-dominance occurs when the contributions of both alleles are visible in the phenotype. For example, chemical modifications on the surfaces of blood cells are controlled by three alleles (IA, IB and IO) at the ABO locus. The IA and IB alleles produce different modifications, and the non-functional IO allele produces no modification. Thus IA and IB alleles are each dominant to IO (IA IA and IA IO individuals both have type A blood, and IB IB and IB IO individuals both have type B blood. But IA IB individuals have both modifications on their blood cells and thus have type AB blood, so the IA and IB alleles are said to be co-dominant.)


Another example occurs at the locus for the Beta-globin component of hemoglobin, where the three molecular phenotypes of HbA/HbA, HbA/HbS, and HbS/HbS are all distinguishable by protein electrophoresis. (The medical condition produced by the heterozygous genotype is called sickle-cell trait and is a milder condition distinguishable from sickle-cell anemia, thus the alleles show incomplete dominance with respect to anemia, see above). For most gene loci at the molecular level, both alleles are expressed co-dominantly, because both are transcribed into RNA.


Co-dominance, where allelic products co-exist in the phenotype, is different from incomplete or semi-dominance, where the quantitative interaction of allele products produces an intermediate phenotype. For example in Co-dominance, a red homozygous flower and a white homozygous flower will produce offspring that have red and white spots. When plants of the F1 generation are self-pollinated, the phenotypic and genotypic ratio of the F2 generation will be 1:2:1 (Red:Spotted:White). These ratios are the same as those for incomplete dominance. Again, note that this classical terminology is inappropriate - in reality such cases should not be said to exhibit dominance at all.


no credit for this goes to me just thought I'd share with u bro where I got that from earlier!
 

SxIstew

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A sativa pheno Lowryder male was crossed with a very potent white pheno Sputnik 2.0 female, from these came a very resinous purple sativa pheno sputnik 2.0 x Lowryder f1 female that was then crossed with a sativa pheno Sputnik 2.0 x Lowryder f1 male. In the f2's there were 3 AF's out of about 40 plants, 1 sativa pheno male and 2 sativa pheno females (1 was purple the other white). Both were pollinated but the purple was more impressive so that is what was worked with. In the f3's there were 12 AF's out of about 40 plants, 9 females and 3 males. The nicest male which was a purple pheno pollinated the 9 females which were also all purple phenos. Approximately 100 seeds from the f4's were grown out, chosen from the 2 nicest females. 100% of the f4 plants auto-flowered within 21 days from seed (the pics are f4's). A sativa pheno male (also purple) pollinated about 20 females. Currently the f5's taken from the best females are being worked with.








Words of Canned Abyss on how he used a photo and auto to create a new auto.
 

Blitzedgrowkid08

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Good info im gunna have to grab more of those spyder autos! Want to see what this strain has to bring to the table. What percent of male pods purple? Just saw the very first sign mine was male late last night. Good and bad I guess. Thinking of dusting a grand berry purple as well in the near future if I can keep the pollen for a month or so. This is my first go at breeding but I've done a fair amount of research so we will see how it turns out. Done taking ur thread in the wrong direction tho bro lol! Have a good one.
 

SxIstew

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This thread is for breeding talk as well as my documentation of each cross I make.... you can talk ALL you want. Lol


ALL males are purple. The purple pod you speak of is a female calyx that grows around the male sac. All males herm to fem as well.... if you are patient and have the space with no air flow save him and collect POLLEN not pods not nanners. The nanners open up after 6 or so hours of the sac laying down. Hold a container under it and tap the sac, not the branch unless collection is taken on a piece of paper with no creases or aluminum foil. This will keep pollen shed low while collecting.
That's how i roll. Lol. I'm a tedious fucker though. Lol other people I've seen just wrap the base and , cone up with aluminum foil collecting the whole plant in 1 or 2 days. I take 1-2 weeks.
 
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