I'm poor an can't afford ph down any other ways of lowering ph?

[fir3dragon]

Her it is bigger.

looks good man..

looks good to me, lets see if it meets the arbitrary needs of fir3dragon, oh wait, he's done with this trolling, on to another one.
be easy homies

im not trolling and never was.. i was saying my thoughts... isnt that what this forum is for anyways?

 

[Dr.J20]

looks good man..



im not trolling and never was.. i was saying my thoughts... isnt that what this forum is for anyways?

your thoughts include irrational, fallacious statements which I was controverting. is that not also what this forum is for?

 

[fir3dragon]

your thoughts include irrational, fallacious statements which I was controverting. is that not also what this forum is for?

yes it is, and your free to do that.. he can filter out what he wants to.. either way, advice was given by both me and you and everyone else...

 

[Brittle]

Thank you for shutting him up!

 

[fir3dragon]

Thank you for shutting him up!

lol? simple advice...

 

[Brittle]

You basically told me to chop my plants down and quit just cause I don't have a ph meter ... Witch is the only thing I don't have now

 

[Mr.Marijuana420]

drink your piss too then...

from that perspective "eat a spoonful of your nutes then", or why not pack up a bowl of straight nutes, cuz that's what your smoking in your final product right. anything you feed your plant will be broken down, consumed and utilized for energy and plant growth, if theres any residual anything left in your plant at the end it was inorganic to begin with and the plant couldn't break it down

 

[Mr.Marijuana420]

i got news for you.. im 19 and i dont sit around a cry about not affording this or not affording that.. its called either afford it, or dont grow until you can afford it. no clue how long you have been growing but ive been growing since i was 16 almost 17 and i seriously doubt you know more then me... thats why you piss on your plants right?

shit real veteran, 2 years under the belt, and knows it all

 

[fir3dragon]

You basically told me to chop my plants down and quit just cause I don't have a ph meter ... Witch is the only thing I don't have now

i did not say that. i said there is no excuse for you cant afford this or you cant afford that. i would never say "you cant afford it cut your plants down" its too late unless you absolutely want to cut them down.. but you also have to get a ph meter.. no doubt about it.. and you need it like now cause coco is like hydro.. im sure you have 50 bucks or so put to the side for something you can use... i normally just cut my cell phone bill however much short and pay it up next month... but honestly though... i wasnt trying to be a dick.. i was just simply saying either get it or your plants will die.. which they will... im out though...

and since the guy above quoted my post.. the "either afford it or dont grow until you can afford it" means.. buy your supplies and everything you need before you start....

 

[fir3dragon]

shit real veteran, 2 years under the belt, and knows it all

never said i was a veteran and knew it all..

 

[Dr.J20]

from that perspective "eat a spoonful of your nutes then", or why not pack up a bowl of straight nutes, cuz that's what your smoking in your final product right. anything you feed your plant will be broken down, consumed and utilized for energy and plant growth, if theres any residual anything left in your plant at the end it was inorganic to begin with and the plant couldn't break it down

precisely Mr.M, precisely; fir3dragon will continue to backpedal out of here like he offered perfectly reasonable advice to Brittle (OP) because trolls are incapable of self-assessment. that's how they stay trolls. He'll delude himself that he wasn't doing anything trollish and go on to the next thread to troll again, using his extraordinarily limited capacity for reason and discourse.

 

[Dr.J20]

shit real veteran, 2 years under the belt, and knows it all

without the button all i can do is....*like*

 

[Dr.J20]

i normally just cut my cell phone bill however much short and pay it up next month...the "either afford it or dont grow until you can afford it" means.. buy your supplies and everything you need before you start....

so you do exactly what you advise against. If you're off loading your cell phone bill (and minutely harming your credit, i might add) to the next month, essentially turning that into a credit loan, then you are doing exactly what you're saying not to do by saying you shouldn't start to grow until you have EVERYTHING you need. The whole fucking point is that you don't know what you're going to need in the event of an emergency and so having some capital reserve is usually a good idea. However, that is not to say "you shouldn't grow" but rather, be aware that growing has more than just one or two outside expenses. Indeed, changing from one medium to another can cost a lot more than just the medium itself. So, after your third claim tha tyour leaving, are you actually going to leave? TROLL

 

[Brittle]

i did not say that. i said there is no excuse for you cant afford this or you cant afford that. i would never say "you cant afford it cut your plants down" its too late unless you absolutely want to cut them down.. but you also have to get a ph meter.. no doubt about it.. and you need it like now cause coco is like hydro.. im sure you have 50 bucks or so put to the side for something you can use... i normally just cut my cell phone bill however much short and pay it up next month... but honestly though... i wasnt trying to be a dick.. i was just simply saying either get it or your plants will die.. which they will... im out though...

and since the guy above quoted my post.. the "either afford it or dont grow until you can afford it" means.. buy your supplies and everything you need before you start....

I under stand that and I'm doin. What I can I'm just trying to pay rent and bills man I can tell there gonna die from how they look now

 

[kermit2692]

Haha only read two pages...op is obviously not the brightest bulb in the reflector..i agree I kind of go when someone says they can't afford eight bucks yet they are growing..but the kicker is your peeing in your plants..fucking disgusting man and doesn't do a thing you can't do with real nutes, I hope your smoking that all yourself you damn jew

 

[Dr.J20]

Haha only read two pages...op is obviously not the brightest bulb in the reflector..i agree I kind of go when someone says they can't afford eight bucks yet they are growing..but the kicker is your peeing in your plants..fucking disgusting man and doesn't do a thing you can't do with real nutes, I hope your smoking that all yourself you damn jew

antisemitism is soooo cooool, gosh i wish i could be like you kermit!

 

[fir3dragon]

precisely Mr.M, precisely; fir3dragon will continue to backpedal out of here like he offered perfectly reasonable advice to Brittle (OP) because trolls are incapable of self-assessment. that's how they stay trolls. He'll delude himself that he wasn't doing anything trollish and go on to the next thread to troll again, using his extraordinarily limited capacity for reason and discourse.

i did offer reasonable advice and just for you, i will go back with everything i said and tell you the advice given in simple terms

"if you cant afford ph down, how do you afford electric".. common sense right? ph down is a once a month thing just like electic.. it is for me anyways only i use ph up...

"there isnt a specfic formula to add you need a ph meter if you cant afford the minimum dont grow instead of buying weed buy the meter" to my knowledge there isnt a formula until you add it and measure it to see if its correct... he does need a ph meter since hes in coco and a ph meter is minimum and should be bought with everything else.....

screw all the typing ill just fuckin put it down easier...
i corrected his ph.. he said 5.7-5.8.. i out 5.5-6.0 he also mentioned test drops.. i said they are shit.. which in my opinion they are.. i told him to get a ph meter, calibration soluton and if needed storage solution...

he claimed he uses the best.. i said i wanted to see pics... and then we got into the piss and shit part of the plants... i believe i said plenty of advice...

 

[fir3dragon]

so you do exactly what you advise against. If you're off loading your cell phone bill (and minutely harming your credit, i might add) to the next month, essentially turning that into a credit loan, then you are doing exactly what you're saying not to do by saying you shouldn't start to grow until you have EVERYTHING you need. The whole fucking point is that you don't know what you're going to need in the event of an emergency and so having some capital reserve is usually a good idea. However, that is not to say "you shouldn't grow" but rather, be aware that growing has more than just one or two outside expenses. Indeed, changing from one medium to another can cost a lot more than just the medium itself. So, after your third claim tha tyour leaving, are you actually going to leave? TROLL

harming my credit? honestly.. fuck credit.. cash and carry... but whatever bash me on that too.... the cell phone company dont give a shit as long as i pay which i do... very rarely do i do that.. usually i got the cash... and RESEARCH will tell you everything thats needed to start a grow up.. it did for me.. i had a ph meter when i first started and i was using soil! and if you talk to me im going to respond.. i dont ignore people who talk to me specifically

 

[kermit2692]

so you do exactly what you advise against. If you're off loading your cell phone bill (and minutely harming your credit, i might add) to the next month, essentially turning that into a credit loan, then you are doing exactly what you're saying not to do by saying you shouldn't start to grow until you have EVERYTHING you need. The whole fucking point is that you don't know what you're going to need in the event of an emergency and so having some capital reserve is usually a good idea. However, that is not to say "you shouldn't grow" but rather, be aware that growing has more than just one or two outside expenses. Indeed, changing from one medium to another can cost a lot more than just the medium itself. So, after your third claim tha tyour leaving, are you actually going to leave? TROLL

Late cell phone bill does not affect your credit, nor does rent, most utilities, or anything that is billed to you aside from revolving credit cards, unless it goes through collections unsuccessfully then its put on your report..I agree with him you should pay your grow first put off bills if you absolutely have to because the grow can pay them many times over but not if you mess it up!

 

[Dr.J20]

"there isnt a specfic formula to add you need a ph meter if you cant afford the minimum dont grow instead of buying weed buy the meter" to my knowledge there isnt a formula until you add it and measure it to see if its correct... he does need a ph meter since hes in coco and a ph meter is minimum and should be bought with everything else.....

Yes there is, Ka equillibrium equation. pass a basic chem. course before asserting something like this.

i believe i said plenty of advice...

certainly you gave a lot of your opinion and you did it in not the nicest of ways; your advice also did not address the actual question: what can i use instead of store-bought pH down?
then the piss flaming and irrational fallacious 'reasoning'

keep backpedaling...