Humidity

[Deusracing]

Im just curious here. I see that most say higher humidity levels lead to females. Damn if thats the case im gonna have a lot of dudes here. My temp is 79-81 but humidity is 16% now mind you that i spray them 4-6 times a day. Ugh what do you guys think please let me know

 

[Nitro1990]

Im just curious here. I see that most say higher humidity levels lead to females. Damn if thats the case im gonna have a lot of dudes here.

that is a myth there is a lot of crap like that in growing

 

[CC Dobbs]

It is called Bro-science. Get used to it here.

 

[BarnBuster]

not "most". not true

 

[Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde]

it's just another one of those unproven myths that may or may not be true
we just don't worry about humidity unless it's super high during the flower stage
Dr. Jekyll

If you are worried about the low humidity, try adding a wet towel to your room, which will be more effective than spraying 6 times a day
Mr. Hyde

 

[Deusracing]

Thank you guys. I wasn't sure. I know it grows good in arizona soil. anyways any help here is nice. First time grow on anything here.

 

[qwizoking]

If you want a higher fem count or even male you can control your environment to do so....
This is widely known by everyone not on a forum...

"68] Soon thereafter, Schaffner disputed Hirata's interpretation, [69] and published results from his own studies of sex reversal in hemp, concluding that an X:A system was in use and that furthermore sex was strongly influenced by environmental factors [66]" environmental sex determination is known to occur in a variety of species. [79] Many researchers have suggested that sex inCannabis is determined or strongly influenced by environmental factors. [66] Ainsworth reviews that treatment with auxin and ethylene have feminizing effects, and that treatment with cytokinins and gibberellins have masculinizing effects. [60] It has been reported that sex can be reversed in Cannabis using chemical treatment. [80] A PCR-based method for the detection of female-associated DNA polymorphisms by genotyping has been developed.

I've actually had this argument several times or I should say have this argument several times weekly!.....if you wish to believe that fine.......but hormonal responses effected by the environment largely effect sex...it also occurs around the 3rd week

The fact that we can produce feminized seed proves this

"Cannabis has been described as having one of the most complicated mechanisms of sex determination"


Y'all can dispute all you want.. I spent a great deal of time altering my grow room to prove a certain riu member wrong (funny I haven't seen him in a couple months)
I have had a ~94% female ratio since the beginning of September..roughly 100 females and about 5 males since then ....I do 4 a week
Ignorance on this forum is a force to be reckoned with

 

[Sand4x105]

Bla...
bla...
I have had a ~94% female ratio since the beginning of September..roughly 100 females and about 5 males since then ....I do 4 a week
Ignorance on this forum is a force to be reckoned with

4 a week from seed... isn't it about time that you become a pro at Cloning?
300 out of 300 last year...
Never worry about males....
The clones get better every time... I clone the best biggest fastest...
Yes I know this has nothing to do with a new grower worrying about low humidity...
Have a great day...
And that "Clone Fade" you are worried about....
It's just more "Bro-Science" repeated over and over... and total BS...

 

[CC Dobbs]

If you want a higher fem count or even male you can control your environment to do so....
This is widely known by everyone not on a forum...

"68] Soon thereafter, Schaffner disputed Hirata's interpretation, [69] and published results from his own studies of sex reversal in hemp, concluding that an X:A system was in use and that furthermore sex was strongly influenced by environmental factors [66]" environmental sex determination is known to occur in a variety of species. [79] Many researchers have suggested that sex inCannabis is determined or strongly influenced by environmental factors. [66] Ainsworth reviews that treatment with auxin and ethylene have feminizing effects, and that treatment with cytokinins and gibberellins have masculinizing effects. [60] It has been reported that sex can be reversed in Cannabis using chemical treatment. [80] A PCR-based method for the detection of female-associated DNA polymorphisms by genotyping has been developed.

I've actually had this argument several times or I should say have this argument several times weekly!.....if you wish to believe that fine.......but hormonal responses effected by the environment largely effect sex...it also occurs around the 3rd week

The fact that we can produce feminized seed proves this

"Cannabis has been described as having one of the most complicated mechanisms of sex determination"


Y'all can dispute all you want.. I spent a great deal of time altering my grow room to prove a certain riu member wrong (funny I haven't seen him in a couple months)
I have had a ~94% female ratio since the beginning of September..roughly 100 females and about 5 males since then ....I do 4 a week
Ignorance on this forum is a force to be reckoned with

Your arrogance is impressive. Where is that citation from? And the quote doesn't seem to have an author or are you quoting yourself?. Thanks

 

[qwizoking]

66. Schaffner, John H. (1931). "The Fluctuation Curve of Sex Reversal in Staminate Hemp Plants Induced by Photoperiodicity". American Journal of Botany 18 (6): 424–30. doi:10.2307/2435878 . JSTOR 2435878 .
67. Truţa, E; Gille, E; Tóth, E; Maniu, M (2002). "Biochemical differences in Cannabis sativa L. Depending on sexual phenotype". Journal of applied genetics 43 (4): 451–62. PMID 12441630 .
68. Bridges, Calvin B. (1925). "Sex in Relation to Chromosomes and Genes". The American Naturalist 59 (661): 127–37. doi:10.1086/280023 . JSTOR 2456354 .
69. Schaffner, John H. (1929). "Heredity and sex". Ohio Journal of Science 29 (1): 289–300. hdl:1811/2398 . 70. Negrutiu, I; Vyskot, B; Barbacar, N; Georgiev, S; Moneger,
78. Mohan Ram, HY; Sett, R (1982). "Induction of fertile male flowers in genetically female Cannabis sativa plants by silver nitrate and silver thiosulphate anionic complex". Theoretical and Applied Genetics 62 (4): 369–75. doi:10.1007/BF00275107 (inactive December 25, 2013). PMID 24270659 .
79. Shao, Hong; Song, Shu-Juan; Clarke, Robert C. (2003). "Female-Associated DNA Polymorphisms of Hemp (Cannabis sativaL.)". Journal of Industrial Hemp 8: 5. doi:10.1300/J237v08n01_02 .
80. "Hemp Facts" . Naihc.org. Retrieved 2011-02-17.


Lmao...what did you think the numbers were..I actually left alot out, I think the numbers make the quote look messy

Arrogant? Maybe...but I'm right.......and ive proven it in my grow

Besides, this isn't disputed....by anyone(I mean with a degree and knowledge of the subject..not random forum members)...................its simply fact

Hence the 20 something references one can pull..

 

[SableZen]

66. Schaffner, John H. (1931). "The Fluctuation Curve of Sex Reversal in Staminate Hemp Plants Induced by Photoperiodicity". American Journal of Botany 18 (6): 424–30. doi:10.2307/2435878 . JSTOR 2435878 .
67. Truţa, E; Gille, E; Tóth, E; Maniu, M (2002). "Biochemical differences in Cannabis sativa L. Depending on sexual phenotype". Journal of applied genetics 43 (4): 451–62. PMID 12441630 .
68. Bridges, Calvin B. (1925). "Sex in Relation to Chromosomes and Genes". The American Naturalist 59 (661): 127–37. doi:10.1086/280023 . JSTOR 2456354 .
69. Schaffner, John H. (1929). "Heredity and sex". Ohio Journal of Science 29 (1): 289–300. hdl:1811/2398 . 70. Negrutiu, I; Vyskot, B; Barbacar, N; Georgiev, S; Moneger,
78. Mohan Ram, HY; Sett, R (1982). "Induction of fertile male flowers in genetically female Cannabis sativa plants by silver nitrate and silver thiosulphate anionic complex". Theoretical and Applied Genetics 62 (4): 369–75. doi:10.1007/BF00275107 (inactive December 25, 2013). PMID 24270659 .
79. Shao, Hong; Song, Shu-Juan; Clarke, Robert C. (2003). "Female-Associated DNA Polymorphisms of Hemp (Cannabis sativaL.)". Journal of Industrial Hemp 8: 5. doi:10.1300/J237v08n01_02 .
80. "Hemp Facts" . Naihc.org. Retrieved 2011-02-17.


Lmao...what did you think the numbers were..I actually left alot out, I think the numbers make the quote look messy

Arrogant? Maybe...but I'm right.......and ive proven it in my grow

Besides, this isn't disputed....by anyone(I mean with a degree and knowledge of the subject..not random forum members)...................its simply fact

Hence the 20 something references one can pull..

I don't see how the things you quoted or cited apply to your (90+% females from non-feminized seeds) claim since the quotes and sources are discussing more commonly known things such as altering an original expression of sex... not causing a determination of genetic expression along the lines of your claim...

 

[qwizoking]

Obviously my claim of female count isn't a published source......lol?

Lol I don't even know how to respond to the rest of that...your saying that this is commonly known? Which is why its so complex ts not fully understood and really only starting too since the late 90's..besides the fact that most dioecious plants do not have an xy system

Go read about non genetic sex determination systems....this is very easy to do

Especially with tsd


Also that quote and the provided references was straight copy paste..so you can't say it wasn't relevant haha that's where the quotes came from
You cra cra

 

[SableZen]

I'll make is simpler for you then: your claim has nothing to do with the things you cited nor quoted.

If you want to be specific and find something in what you cited that has anything to do with making 90+ percent of non-feminized seeds express only female sex organs, please feel free to quote it and share the knowledge. But citing documents talking about sex reversal or inducing male flowers in female cannabis plants has nothing to do with what you claimed.

 

[qwizoking]

My claim that I have a 94% female ratio has nothing to do with that fact that sex is determined by the environment??
The quotes proved it is environmental and my testimony backs up that its possible to control..
Sooo what are you wanting from me? Lol

I'll make it simple for you...you have no clue wtf your talking about and are just trolling

 

[qwizoking]

"1. Level of nitrogen and potassium of the seedbed: A heightening of the standard level of nitrogen makes for more female cannabis plants originating from the weed seeds. A lowering of the nitrogen level shows more male cannabis plants. A heightening of the level of potassium tends to show more male marijuana plants, while a lowering of the potassium level shows more female marijuanaplants. A combination of a higher nitrogen level for the period of a week or two and a lowering of the potassium level is recommended.
2. Humidity and moistness of the seedbed: a higher humidity makes for an increase in the number of female cannabis plants from weed seed, a lowering for an increase in male cannabis plants. The same is valid for the moistness of the seedbed.
3. Level of temperatures: lower temperatures make for a larger number of female marijuana plants, higher temperatures for more male marijuana plants.
4. Colour of light: more blue light makes for female cannabis plants from seed, more red light makes for more male cannabis plants.
5. Hours of daylight: few hours of daylight (e.g. 14 hours) makes for more female individuals, a long day (e.g. 18 hours) makes for more male cannabis plants."


Oh! Your trying to figure out how its done without simply and politely asking

I veg and flower under hps..color of light isn't as big a factor...neither is daylight hrs in my opinion, I run 24/0 in my veg room and immediately throw in the 12/12 flower room... Heat humidity then nutes in that order imo... Iwould run 20/4 if I could, my plants prefer it....just not as easy
My ratios will be cut to bout 80% just by having temps bout 75......so to germ effectively I keep temps about 80. Once they pop the surface Itake it down to high 60's low 70's for 2-3weeks. This marker has been observed by myself and others as when sexing takes hold in the plant and it will take on a lanky male appearance


Its in almost every grow bible lmao.....that's a quote too

 

[SableZen]

My claim that I have a 94% female ratio has nothing to do with that fact that sex is determined by the environment??
The quotes proved it is environmental and my testimony backs up that its possible to control..
Sooo what are you wanting from me? Lol

I'll make it simple for you...you have no clue wtf your talking about and are just trolling

Don't get mad and pouty, just find a legitimate section in any of those citations you provided that address making non-feminized seeds express only female sex 90+% of the time. No reason for hostilities here.

 

[SableZen]

"1. Level of nitrogen and potassium of the seedbed: A heightening of the standard level of nitrogen makes for more female cannabis plants originating from the weed seeds. A lowering of the nitrogen level shows more male cannabis plants. A heightening of the level of potassium tends to show more male marijuana plants, while a lowering of the potassium level shows more female marijuanaplants. A combination of a higher nitrogen level for the period of a week or two and a lowering of the potassium level is recommended.
2. Humidity and moistness of the seedbed: a higher humidity makes for an increase in the number of female cannabis plants from weed seed, a lowering for an increase in male cannabis plants. The same is valid for the moistness of the seedbed.
3. Level of temperatures: lower temperatures make for a larger number of female marijuana plants, higher temperatures for more male marijuana plants.
4. Colour of light: more blue light makes for female cannabis plants from seed, more red light makes for more male cannabis plants.
5. Hours of daylight: few hours of daylight (e.g. 14 hours) makes for more female individuals, a long day (e.g. 18 hours) makes for more male cannabis plants."


Oh! Your trying to figure out how its done without simply and politely asking

I veg and flower under hps..color of light isn't as big a factor...neither is daylight hrs in my opinion, I run 24/0 in my veg room and immediately throw in the 12/12 flower room... Heat humidity then nutes in that order imo... Iwould run 20/4 if I could, my plants prefer it....just not as easy
My ratios will be cut to bout 80% just by having temps bout 75......so to germ effectively I keep temps about 80. Once they pop the surface Itake it down to high 60's low 70's for 2-3weeks. This marker has been observed by myself and others as when sexing takes hold in the plant and it will take on a lanky male appearance


Its in almost every grow bible lmao.....that's a quote too

Yeah that's pretty awesome to directly cut and paste from another forum post as a source. Just like some other idiot that originally posted it years ago. Not exactly scientific citations there buddy. What you didn't learn that while earning your "degree"?

 

[qwizoking]

Well this was fun
Trololololo

Interesting I didn't mention my degree in this thread..hmmmmmmm?
Also I've never quoted from a forum

 

[Nitro1990]

qwizoking dont mean to be a ass like but you been taking lessons off Finshaggy? because none of what you have said has computed into my brain its raw turd info

 

[qwizoking]

Y'all can believe what you want..
Its been proven that cannabis sex is determined through environmental factors..again this is what makes fem seeds possible, the xa system

I have proven this with 94% females off varied stock consistently
I'm out