USDA recalls 8.7 million lbs of meat

sunni

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Sugar is the killer. It's 'rare' in nature to find abundant, consistent sources of sugar, and naturally occuring sugar isn't nearly as bad for you as high fructose corn syrup.

Animal fat is something humans have eaten for hundreds of thousands of years.
organic cane sugar is actually good its refined white sugar
 

Beefbisquit

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organic cane sugar is actually good its refined white sugar
Sugar can be a great source of energy.

It's eating in it excess that's the problem. That being said, so many things are saturated with sugars now that it's no longer a nice boost of energy, it's the norm and our bodies aren't designed to take the increased sugar content.

I still love me some pastries though. lol
 

Dr.J20

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Right on, i was just curious since it might be a workaround for the compulsion towards habitual, excessive sugar intake... oh well
be easy,
:peace:
 

sunni

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i meant the problem is refined white sugar lol apprently i didnt finish my sentance
 

racerboy71

bud bootlegger
I'd like to know how processing changes the chemical structure of fructose.... not saying it doesn't. Just saying I don't know how it does, if it does.
that's why i always have a lol at the organic growers saying organic bud tastes better then chem, that's laughable in itself like the nitrogen in organic nutes isn't a chemical ffs, when nitrogen is nitrogen.. still has the same chemical make up, same amount of electrons and protons running around, whether it was made in a factory or from nature in the form of bird and fish shit..
 

heckler73

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that's why i always have a lol at the organic growers saying organic bud tastes better then chem, that's laughable in itself like the nitrogen in organic nutes isn't a chemical ffs, when nitrogen is nitrogen.. still has the same chemical make up, same amount of electrons and protons running around, whether it was made in a factory or from nature in the form of bird and fish shit..
:lol:
I go through the same thing with my friends who are mental for "organic" everything.
Then they spray Round Up on their weeds...
 

Abiqua

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that's why i always have a lol at the organic growers saying organic bud tastes better then chem, that's laughable in itself like the nitrogen in organic nutes isn't a chemical ffs, when nitrogen is nitrogen.. still has the same chemical make up, same amount of electrons and protons running around, whether it was made in a factory or from nature in the form of bird and fish shit..
Yes and no, synthetic chemicals can be bonded in different ways than the original to create a "synthetic" molecule. I would bet that ran thru a GC/MS of the synthetic and natural in-organic chemical you would run different trace analyses especially if bonding mechanisms were different to produce each molecule, which will effect CEC and Anion exchange and enzyme pathways, a whole host of shit, chemistry is not so simple.

Just by chemistry, organic is anthing carbon based and inorganic isn't. Plants can only uptake in-organic nutrients. So the organic gardener has to go thru the process of converting the carbon matter into in-organic matter, usually driven by sugars as a food source, i.e. compost + 90%+ sugars. There are natural in-organic elements that a plant can uptake that need no processing. So I will agree with you there.
As to how they are produced, I argue that isn't the case at all synthetic ferts/nutrients/molecules are not the same as natural ones.
 

tobinates559

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that's why i always have a lol at the organic growers saying organic bud tastes better then chem, that's laughable in itself like the nitrogen in organic nutes isn't a chemical ffs, when nitrogen is nitrogen.. still has the same chemical make up, same amount of electrons and protons running around, whether it was made in a factory or from nature in the form of bird and fish shit..

have you never smoked a hydro bud(most likely using chem nutes) and noticed its lack of aroma and taste??? i find that the case almost every time i scope out and smoke some bud labeled as being hydroponically grown!!! i have never smoked hydro that tasted better, smelled better, or got me any more high than some organic soil grown herb...but thats just me AND TONS OF OTHER PEOPLE..i always have a good LOL at a person who cant tel the difference!!!!:o
 

Nutes and Nugs

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It's sad and a shame we have to throw out all the meat because of GREED.

What do they do with 8.7 million pounds of (possibly) bad meat?
 

kpmarine

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have you never smoked a hydro bud(most likely using chem nutes) and noticed its lack of aroma and taste??? i find that the case almost every time i scope out and smoke some bud labeled as being hydroponically grown!!! i have never smoked hydro that tasted better, smelled better, or got me any more high than some organic soil grown herb...but thats just me AND TONS OF OTHER PEOPLE..i always have a good LOL at a person who cant tel the difference!!!!:o
I always have a good "LOL" at people who claim something as fact without ruling out tons of factors beyond one data point.
 

Canna Sylvan

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have you never smoked a hydro bud(most likely using chem nutes) and noticed its lack of aroma and taste??? i find that the case almost every time i scope out and smoke some bud labeled as being hydroponically grown!!! i have never smoked hydro that tasted better, smelled better, or got me any more high than some organic soil grown herb...but thats just me AND TONS OF OTHER PEOPLE..i always have a good LOL at a person who cant tel the difference!!!!:o
I grew some really good purple that blew everyone away. 100% chem. I just feed PH water the last 7 days. Everyone was asking where I got it from, and if I drove to the Emerald Triangle to get that really good "organic" bud. It was really dense, aromatic, and sticky. You opened the jar and the whole room smelled like heaven in just a few minutes. You're just getting shitty hydro weed.

With chemicals I know exactly what goes into my plant. With organic, you have no idea. Organic fertilizers can contain unhealthy doses of fluoride, radon and many other pollutants. Lab grade chemicals are more than 99.9% pure.
 

tobinates559

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I always have a good "LOL" at people who claim something as fact without ruling out tons of factors beyond one data point.

go back and read my post and have another LOL because i never claimed any facts????????!!! i just spoke from personal experience, way to make yourself look like an ass...you must have a hard time reading
 
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