USDA recalls 8.7 million lbs of meat

kpmarine

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go back and read my post and have another LOL because i never claimed any facts????????!!! i just spoke from personal experience, way to make yourself look like an ass...you must have a hard time reading
If it's just your experience, then why is this in there?

...but thats just me AND TONS OF OTHER PEOPLE...
Either way, ignoring the huge amount of factors beyond how it was fertilized is just plain ignorant.
 

tip top toker

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and just because you eat healthy, it has zero to do with how old you'll live.. my gf's son was 3 when he died of cancer, so yeah, so much for eating healthy and living a long life.. shit happens, eating healthy doesn't make one immune to life..
seems everyone has a friend who has a relative who smoked 40 a day and lived to 95.
 

schuylaar

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How do you eat under 40 grams of fat on a 2,000 calorie longevity diet the WHO recommdends with a meat diet? Most days I eat between 22 and 25 grams of fat. Even harder less than 50 grams protein to prevent cancer. Care to guess which are the longest lived, carnivore or herbivore in the animal kingdom? Also I eat very little grains because their carb to protein ratio is too high and it wastes a fat serving on fat I like better, such as avocado.
do you do 40/30/30?..my breakdown is 120/40/90
 

schuylaar

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No shit, like Steve Larsen among, probably handfuls or thousands of others..Steve was the called the Michael Jordan of Triathlon's. Dude was the US Mountain Biking Champ at one point, trained and rode with Lance Fagstrong in France and Europe during the Tours and then became a triathlete and killed it in Hawaii on numerous occasions.

Dude was 39, out on a training run at the new high school's track in town and had a heart attack and died right there. Shit does and will happen. I really don't know if he aint meat, doesn't matter, I also had an uncle live to 97 who ate meat all his damn life, but didn't smoke or drink. All kinds of variables to this existence.

I happen to think that the longest lived people are actually people consuming exclusive ethnic diets whether it be animals/plants, but the healthiest have a healthy dose of fermented foods.

Those are the healthiest humans. Animals are hard comparison because of metabolism and how different enzyme reactions are occuring, at least I would think.

A cow is a vegan, why can't people eat his ass?
those early deaths are most often because of an undetected flaw in circulatory..it's a man thing.
 

NLXSK1

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Eskimos (inuits) eat a diet that is mostly Fat
and have very little incidence of Heart problems
In my lifetime I have heard that eggs, coffee, salt, sugar, alcohol, chocolate, etc are alternatively bad or good depending upon the most recent junk science report.

I dont believe a damn thing the government says regarding food products.
 

sunni

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Yeah, nitrates and nitrites aren't very good for you.
neither are animals jammed full of hormones, antibiotics, sickness disease and fillers of food that arent good for them.

I am by no means a cow expert but last time i checked they shouldnt be eating other cows and dogs and pigs and cats
 

Beefbisquit

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neither are animals jammed full of hormones, antibiotics, sickness disease and fillers of food that arent good for them.

I am by no means a cow expert but last time i checked they shouldnt be eating other cows and dogs and pigs and cats
They most definitely shouldn't be eating other animals. lol

Sick animals shouldn't be consumed, and there are laws prohibiting it. I usually buy grass fed beef, and I use a local butcher.

Meh....
 

sunni

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They most definitely shouldn't be eating other animals. lol

Sick animals shouldn't be consumed, and there are laws prohibiting it. I usually buy grass fed beef, and I use a local butcher.

Meh....
right like i said they usually still get passed through .
Of course sick animals shouldnt be consumed, but they do get consume

i love it instantly when you bring up the topic of meat consumption everyone gets out there I ONLY BUY FROM LOCAL AMISH PEOPLE WHO FEED AND LOVE THEIR COWS SO WONDERFULLY AND THE COWS RUN AROUND AND PLAY AND HAPPILY SKIP AROUND BECAUSE THE FARMER I BUY FROM ONLY LOVES THEIR COWS AND ITS ALL ORGANIC AND YEAH IM GOOD PERSON.

lol , its like bitch please you buy your fucking meat from walmart.

it is truly and honestly the first thing everyone always says to me about how they buy grass fed certified organic meat from local farmers, but somehow drive a shitty car and cant afford their phone bills lol
 

ChesusRice

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We need to get rid of the USDA and the FDA.
The free market would of never let bad beef get into the supply chain
 

tobinates559

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If it's just your experience, then why is this in there?



Either way, ignoring the huge amount of factors beyond how it was fertilized is just plain ignorant.

i was just saying from personal experience i would prefer an organically soil grown bud than one gown in DWC with synthetics!!! and you came in all troll like and attacked and said "those arent facts derrrrrrrrrr" and then crawled back under your bridge...
 

tobinates559

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Yes and no, synthetic chemicals can be bonded in different ways than the original to create a "synthetic" molecule. I would bet that ran thru a GC/MS of the synthetic and natural in-organic chemical you would run different trace analyses especially if bonding mechanisms were different to produce each molecule, which will effect CEC and Anion exchange and enzyme pathways, a whole host of shit, chemistry is not so simple.

Just by chemistry, organic is anything carbon based and inorganic isn't. Plants can only uptake in-organic nutrients. So the organic gardener has to go thru the process of converting the carbon matter into in-organic matter, usually driven by sugars as a food source, i.e. compost + 90%+ sugars. There are natural in-organic elements that a plant can uptake that need no processing. So I will agree with you there.
As to how they are produced, I argue that isn't the case at all synthetic ferts/nutrients/molecules are not the same as natural ones.
he said it better than i can^^^

i would love to see some lab test of all the terps and cannabinoids and everything one of plant gown in DWC with synthetics and one in organic soil in the same enviroment
 

Beefbisquit

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right like i said they usually still get passed through .
Of course sick animals shouldnt be consumed, but they do get consume

i love it instantly when you bring up the topic of meat consumption everyone gets out there I ONLY BUY FROM LOCAL AMISH PEOPLE WHO FEED AND LOVE THEIR COWS SO WONDERFULLY AND THE COWS RUN AROUND AND PLAY AND HAPPILY SKIP AROUND BECAUSE THE FARMER I BUY FROM ONLY LOVES THEIR COWS AND ITS ALL ORGANIC AND YEAH IM GOOD PERSON.

lol , its like bitch please you buy your fucking meat from walmart.

it is truly and honestly the first thing everyone always says to me about how they buy grass fed certified organic meat from local farmers, but somehow drive a shitty car and cant afford their phone bills lol
Walmart doesn't sell meat around here. My eggs are free range too. Brown, uneven shapes.

I don't buy organic, that's bullshit. I do buy grass fed because the meat is denser and tastes better. It's not an ethical choice it's a flavour choice.

Sick animals do not usually get passed through. That's just outright exaggeration.
 

tip top toker

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right like i said they usually still get passed through .
Of course sick animals shouldnt be consumed, but they do get consume

i love it instantly when you bring up the topic of meat consumption everyone gets out there I ONLY BUY FROM LOCAL AMISH PEOPLE WHO FEED AND LOVE THEIR COWS SO WONDERFULLY AND THE COWS RUN AROUND AND PLAY AND HAPPILY SKIP AROUND BECAUSE THE FARMER I BUY FROM ONLY LOVES THEIR COWS AND ITS ALL ORGANIC AND YEAH IM GOOD PERSON.

lol , its like bitch please you buy your fucking meat from walmart.

it is truly and honestly the first thing everyone always says to me about how they buy grass fed certified organic meat from local farmers, but somehow drive a shitty car and cant afford their phone bills lol
So you believe that because someone drives a shit car and can't afford their phone bill, they must by that alone eat shit meat? Maybe they drive a shitty car and can't afford their phone bill because they buy proper food? Ever considered that?

By your logic, i could say that because you live in a shitty apartment building, you must as such eat vegetable filled with god knows what kinds of radioactive fertilizers. If you ate real vegetables, then you'd surely live in a nicer place and own nicer stuff.

One of my best friends at school was from a family with no money, people would say if your family is so poor, how come you go to this expensive school, the answer was that his family was poor because he went to an expensive school. Maybe some people put the importance of their health above the importance of a shiny new car.

At least you said it though, here was everyone thinking you were one of these "i'm not better than you" vegans. Now the truth comes out though.
 

sunni

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So you believe that because someone drives a shit car and can't afford their phone bill, they must by that alone eat shit meat? Maybe they drive a shitty car and can't afford their phone bill because they buy proper food? Ever considered that?

By your logic, i could say that because you live in a shitty apartment building, you must as such eat vegetable filled with god knows what kinds of radioactive fertilizers. If you ate real vegetables, then you'd surely live in a nicer place and own nicer stuff.

One of my best friends at school was from a family with no money, people would say if your family is so poor, how come you go to this expensive school, the answer was that his family was poor because he went to an expensive school. Maybe some people put the importance of their health above the importance of a shiny new car.

At least you said it though, here was everyone thinking you were one of these "i'm not better than you" vegans. Now the truth comes out though.
I am not a better than you vegan. I could care less who eats what truly.

but i hate when people lie to make themselves sound better because they eat "organic " meat.
when they dont.

My post is specifically about people I know personally in real life. I've seen their fridges they dont buy organic grass fed beef. lol
 
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