How Did College Education Become So Ridiculously Expensive?

Padawanbater2

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"...In the three decades between 1980 and 2010, the United States underwent a sea change in how it finances higher education. The Consumer Price Index over that period roughly doubled, meaning that most things cost about twice what they did 30 years earlier. Many are aware that over the same period the cost of health care did not just double but increased six times over what it had been. Few Americans, however, realize that during that same period the cost of college tuition went up twice as fast as the cost of health care. Add the disappearance of part-time and temporary summer jobs for college students and the implications for higher education are clear: in three decades the cost of college rose from relatively accessible to shockingly unaffordable.

Those three decades also witnessed radically widening disparities between working and middle class families on the one hand and wealthy families on the other. The Economic Policy Institute found that between 1978 and 2011, roughly the same three decades, average CEO salaries increased by 725%. Workers’ salaries over the same period increased less than 6%. Taking a longer view, they showed that in 1960 the top 1% of income earners in the U.S. collectively made 8.4% of the total income generated in the country. Fifty years later, in 2010, the top 1% had doubled their take to 17.4% of total income.

As the purchasing power of working and middle class families declined, college was seen as ever more necessary in the desperate struggle for financial success. But rapidly rising tuition made college less and less affordable. Trapped between their perceived need for an education and their lack of resources with which to pay for it, many families had no choice but to seek larger and larger student loans."


http://www.alternet.org/education/how-did-college-education-become-so-ridiculously-expensive?page=0,0


Good article describing the situation American college students are faced with
 

collector

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FASFA has filled the classrooms of higher education with students being paid to learn.
The rise in Headcount creates distortions of supply and demand which raises tuition.
Those that do not qualify for aid bear the burden of higher tuition, in this redistributive scheme.

And as jahbrudda pointed out, financilization also increased the ability for people to enter the classroom, thus driving up headcount and price increases

Overall I believe it is the poor economy and job prospects driving people towards higher education.
 

BigNBushy

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It isn't just government loans.

Look back 50 years ago and see how many people a college would employ, then look today.

They have so many deans and associate deans that the cost has to go way up. But the main factor is the government is paying for it.
 

BigNBushy

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Actually, I remember in a finance class I had the professor did an example. He put up the price of tuition and books from when he went to school, about 30 years earlier. He them added value to those dollars of 12% interest, compounded monthly. It came out close to current rates for the same.

The stock market has averaged 12% over the same period of time.

That is very high, but it isn't out of reality.
 

collector

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Hopefully with record amounts of young minds receiving a higher education, benefits to society will soon be realized.
A Renaissance rather than a darkening.
 

schuylaar

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"...In the three decades between 1980 and 2010, the United States underwent a sea change in how it finances higher education. The Consumer Price Index over that period roughly doubled, meaning that most things cost about twice what they did 30 years earlier. Many are aware that over the same period the cost of health care did not just double but increased six times over what it had been. Few Americans, however, realize that during that same period the cost of college tuition went up twice as fast as the cost of health care. Add the disappearance of part-time and temporary summer jobs for college students and the implications for higher education are clear: in three decades the cost of college rose from relatively accessible to shockingly unaffordable.

Those three decades also witnessed radically widening disparities between working and middle class families on the one hand and wealthy families on the other. The Economic Policy Institute found that between 1978 and 2011, roughly the same three decades, average CEO salaries increased by 725%. Workers’ salaries over the same period increased less than 6%. Taking a longer view, they showed that in 1960 the top 1% of income earners in the U.S. collectively made 8.4% of the total income generated in the country. Fifty years later, in 2010, the top 1% had doubled their take to 17.4% of total income.

As the purchasing power of working and middle class families declined, college was seen as ever more necessary in the desperate struggle for financial success. But rapidly rising tuition made college less and less affordable. Trapped between their perceived need for an education and their lack of resources with which to pay for it, many families had no choice but to seek larger and larger student loans."


http://www.alternet.org/education/how-did-college-education-become-so-ridiculously-expensive?page=0,0


Good article describing the situation American college students are faced with
you cannot do anything without a degree now..many employers won't even talk to you unless you have at least 4 years.
 

jahbrudda

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It isn't just government loans.

Look back 50 years ago and see how many people a college would employ, then look today.

They have so many deans and associate deans that the cost has to go way up. But the main factor is the government is paying for it.
When I went to college there was a $2000 per year cap on the loans.
Today, who knows what the cap is, and back then I didn't know anybody that blew their tuition on junk.
 

Winter Woman

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you cannot do anything without a degree now..many employers won't even talk to you unless you have at least 4 years.
I kinda agree. But I know some people that have a specialized trade and make more money than most engineers. So yes, you do need an education whether a degree or an occupation that needs indepth training.
 

heckler73

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Hopefully with record amounts of young minds receiving a higher education, benefits to society will soon be realized.
A Renaissance rather than a darkening.
That's the externality I'm most interested in.
Regardless of the fields chosen, what is the product of that education in society? Does the standard of living have the same correlation with education as it did in the 50s?
Actually, what were the rates of enrollment during those years, anyway?
 

NoDrama

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Government loans, where ya been.
Exactly. The government will guarantee a loan to any student who can fog a mirror. Colleges only have to raise tuition and the government will raise the amount of the loans to match it.

Can't default on a student loan, and bankruptcy won't help you either.
 

NoDrama

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you cannot do anything without a degree now..many employers won't even talk to you unless you have at least 4 years.
Only in the jobs that YOU WANT TO DO.

Plumbers, mechanics, electricians, farmers, ranchers, postal employees, Utility workers all make good money and none of them have to get a college degree. I could name many many lucrative careers that one can have with only a GED at most. I know at least 10 people who make more than $200,000 and only one of them has an associates, the rest have a HS diploma.
 

Canna Sylvan

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The OP is a stupid question. Government intervention. :dunce: College was relatively cheap when government didn't give out loans. The "grant" system is a joke. It's like department stores that sell $50 perfume which never sold for $1,000, but they say: "save 2,000%!" :joint:
 

Nutes and Nugs

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"...In the three decades between 1980 and 2010, the United States underwent a sea change in how it finances higher education. The Consumer Price Index over that period roughly doubled, meaning that most things cost about twice what they did 30 years earlier. Many are aware that over the same period the cost of health care did not just double but increased six times over what it had been. Few Americans, however, realize that during that same period the cost of college tuition went up twice as fast as the cost of health care. Add the disappearance of part-time and temporary summer jobs for college students and the implications for higher education are clear: in three decades the cost of college rose from relatively accessible to shockingly unaffordable.

Those three decades also witnessed radically widening disparities between working and middle class families on the one hand and wealthy families on the other. The Economic Policy Institute found that between 1978 and 2011, roughly the same three decades, average CEO salaries increased by 725%. Workers’ salaries over the same period increased less than 6%. Taking a longer view, they showed that in 1960 the top 1% of income earners in the U.S. collectively made 8.4% of the total income generated in the country. Fifty years later, in 2010, the top 1% had doubled their take to 17.4% of total income.

As the purchasing power of working and middle class families declined, college was seen as ever more necessary in the desperate struggle for financial success. But rapidly rising tuition made college less and less affordable. Trapped between their perceived need for an education and their lack of resources with which to pay for it, many families had no choice but to seek larger and larger student loans."


http://www.alternet.org/education/how-did-college-education-become-so-ridiculously-expensive?page=0,0


Good article describing the situation American college students are faced with
One word, LIBERALS.
They want to make everyone the same.
More welfare, student loans and raise the minimum wage.

Obama thinks 'the childen' need a college degree to survive and that's just fine and dandy.
Now the whole country has college degrees and no one has a job, again.
But, but, it created jobs? didnt it?
 
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