The French Cannoli` Hash Thread

Frenchy Cannoli

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When processing this hash, is there a general rule for "thickness", is it better to roll it out flat,then cannoli it or can it be cured in a chunk?
There is no general rule but the thinner you press it the less time you have to press it again to have an even press.
 

Digger

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I'm thinking a drill set on low with this type of an attachment would work perfectly in 5 gals?.

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Workforce-5-Gallon-Helix-Paint-Mixer-HM5HD/202251543#.Udl4D6y1vK0

Peace
Not a bad idea, and that is exactly what I use in my cordless drill, on low speed and in reverse. However, it beats the crap out of the plant material and after about 3 washes, you start getting green in your trichs, and the yield is pitiful. I've used it for a few years, but after finding this thread, I went ahead and ordered a mini washing machine. I will say the prices have dropped substantially. When I first started looking, one of those set ups and bags was a serious investment ($$$), however I will say, all I looked for were "bubble machines", not portable washers. Thanks for all the info and sharing the knowledge Frenchy. This is a picture of some bubble I did almost a year ago. You have taught me a few things to do differently, like break it up to dry, and press afterwards. Before I would just let this piece air dry just like it was, then, tear it into a few strips, then after a few days, roll it all into a ball and keep it in the fridge. I think I was making a mistake, because I had to keep it in the fridge, if I didn't it would melt at room temperature and stick to the jar. On a side not Frenchy, after watching your video's a few times, I feel the need to cook some shrimp etouffee. LOL! Maybe in a few days.

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DCobeen

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yes i like the bit. im just gonna buy a machine for 69.00 and then its easy. done to much of diy builds lol.
 

Digger

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yes i like the bit. im just gonna buy a machine for 69.00 and then its easy. done to much of diy builds lol.
LOL!! I'm the same way! I'm always, I can build it better than that. Hell paying someone to work on my truck is like..... Well remember that seen from Stir Crazy when the guy grabs Richard Pryor's nuts with the pliers? It's like that.

Very tempting to get the washer indeed!
I gave in! Especially after seeing the yields. That picture I posted above might have been from a pound of trim and bud, and that piece might have been 10 grams soaking wet. And thats a big might!
 

Frenchy Cannoli

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[h=1]This is what I wrote on the subject in my soon to be published Workshop booklet

Machine vs. Manual
If you are not looking to get into shape there is no reason but financial not to use a machine. The main reason for choosing the manual process is the gentleness that can be applied which is true to a point. The gentleness of the whole operation is also very much dependent on the ratio water, ice, trims and the length of the cycle, as it is when using a washing machine. The use of a wooden paddle has technically hardly more crushing potential of the leaf material than a vortex of water created by a washing machine.The key to quality, beside gentleness, is to work with small batches; it makes it easier to control the most important variables; the amount of trims for the volume of water, the quantity of ice used and the length of the spinning cycle.
Manual agitation is generally acknowledged as the gentlest technique offering the cleanest resin, but it is not “set in stone” being dependent on human factors. I believe that while a light touch is vital to quality sieving the other variables have more of an impact on the ice water extraction process and that a machine perfectly loaded and timed can deliver as clean an end product as the manual procedure.[/h]
 
Hey Frenchy!

So much respect for maintaining this thread for as long as you have!
Ive read about half way through so far and every few pages I seem to find another gem of infromation from you.

Im going to be doing my first water hash run using the exact same set up as you have. I am using the hash mainly to make infused coconut oil so the taste, flavour etc are not very important to me. I have a limited amount of time to process all of my fresh trim and being in a relitivly humid location I am worried about the drying time of my hash. Would you or any of this threads readers have any suggestions of how to dry my product faster? I do have a seperate room, more specifically shed that I will be doing all my drying and processing in. So far my ideas have been using a food dehydrator but this just doesnt seem right or maybe a dehhumidifier in the room. Any input would be appreciated.
 

Frenchy Cannoli

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A dedicated room with a dehumidifier is all you need, can be done in a fridge as well. You want the room/place to be on the cold side (mid 50s) and around 35 to 40% humidity.
It does not really matter for what you want to use the hash, the flavors and smell are always important
 

beuffer420

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Hey Frenchy!

So much respect for maintaining this thread for as long as you have!
Ive read about half way through so far and every few pages I seem to find another gem of infromation from you.

Im going to be doing my first water hash run using the exact same set up as you have. I am using the hash mainly to make infused coconut oil so the taste, flavour etc are not very important to me. I have a limited amount of time to process all of my fresh trim and being in a relitivly humid location I am worried about the drying time of my hash. Would you or any of this threads readers have any suggestions of how to dry my product faster? I do have a seperate room, more specifically shed that I will be doing all my drying and processing in. So far my ideas have been using a food dehydrator but this just doesnt seem right or maybe a dehhumidifier in the room. Any input would be appreciated.
Frenchy hit it right on bruv, I call it my office...it's a spare room in the house where I keep a dehumidifier and all finished product resides there. When I dry my hash runs I can adjust the humidity in the room and make sure the door stays closed and nothing is disturbed. You guys would laugh if u saw how many hygrometers I have throughout my house lol.

As far as drying faster, try your hardest to not rush any step of frenchy's process. You've pry read where he says this is an easy process, but with that said all the steps must be done perfectly for the quality you desire. Best thing I could tell you is try to break up your hash as small as possible before press, so it isn't trying to dry a chunk where the middle will take longer to dry than the outside.

@frenchy I saw an amazing picture on fb yesterday of a run you did! I think TC posted it. I love the pics of where you guys go to that big forest and look around too...looks like a good time with Mother Nature:)
 

Mohican

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Can you dry in a CO2 environment? Seems like you could reduce the oxidation if you dry in an oxygen free atmosphere. I know Matt Rize is doing something different because his IWE is very light colored when it is dried now, and he was getting oxidation darkening before.

Here is what happens with oxidation:

Freshly Collected:




One week later:





Cheers,
Mo
 
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