As a side note, just because you see contamination in a jar don't throw it out. I did some G2G transfers in open air, got green trich growing in there. Left it alone for a few weeks and the the mushrooms kicked its ass. If the whole damn thing is green toss it. Couple spots wait and see.
how to grow mushrooms the easy way
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canndo
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not with this tek. You run the risk of spreaing the contamination to other jars and altering the microflura of the house. Zero tolerance.
hi guys,
complete virgin iam with this site an growing anything. but would be hugely appreciated if you can help me out....
right, for starters
i have read all of this thread and the one which is 100 pages plus now
im using your technique but smaller scale as cannot get a huge pc
now ...... ive got golden teacher spores and i am on my second try as nothin happened at all on my first effort in ant of the 12 jars..... not even any contamination
so ive bought a couple more syringes from another source an tried again, and so far nothing
few things im thinking it could be,
am i innoculating the jars too soon after coming out of pc, the jars are still hot is it killing the spores ?
am i over cooking the popcorn? it takes roughly 2hrs to get the popcorn to split ?
where i keep the jars is roughly 22/23 c is that still not warm enough ?
many thanks
p.s amazing threads guys, loving it .... keep it up
complete virgin iam with this site an growing anything. but would be hugely appreciated if you can help me out....
right, for starters
i have read all of this thread and the one which is 100 pages plus now
im using your technique but smaller scale as cannot get a huge pc
now ...... ive got golden teacher spores and i am on my second try as nothin happened at all on my first effort in ant of the 12 jars..... not even any contamination
so ive bought a couple more syringes from another source an tried again, and so far nothing
few things im thinking it could be,
am i innoculating the jars too soon after coming out of pc, the jars are still hot is it killing the spores ?
am i over cooking the popcorn? it takes roughly 2hrs to get the popcorn to split ?
where i keep the jars is roughly 22/23 c is that still not warm enough ?
many thanks
p.s amazing threads guys, loving it .... keep it up
stressedtoaster
Active Member
how often do you replace the bags you cover the jars with
thankyou canndo,
i do trust it works, im sure i read somewhere about temperatures in regards to spores
i have followed your instructions to every last detail , my bathroom has never been so clean.. ha
the jars have been hot even after sitting in pc for half hour
i will leave jars for another couple days if nothing then i will squirt again
thankyou
i do trust it works, im sure i read somewhere about temperatures in regards to spores
i have followed your instructions to every last detail , my bathroom has never been so clean.. ha
the jars have been hot even after sitting in pc for half hour
i will leave jars for another couple days if nothing then i will squirt again
thankyou
canndo
Well-Known Member
you don't, no point.
hi guys,
just hoping you could answer a few questions, about popcorn substrate depth .....
what is the optimal depth for a substrate ?
and why ?
think i read somewhere about if it is too deep it could create too much heat or something
and what is the shallowest you could get away with ??
many thanks
just hoping you could answer a few questions, about popcorn substrate depth .....
what is the optimal depth for a substrate ?
and why ?
think i read somewhere about if it is too deep it could create too much heat or something
and what is the shallowest you could get away with ??
many thanks
supermanlives
New Member
I love this site already unlike the old one we can discuss other natural stuff....... I have no chance of growing shrooms tho as nobody ships to cali that I can find....
technical dan
Active Member
a trusted friend in another state would ship there if you know such a person. unless youre near the edge of the state and get a p.o. box in the adjacent state
technical dan
Active Member
do the same thing you would with cubes but have some manure in your spawn or substrate (tho they have been fruited without it). I think the temps are a little cooler than cubes maybe 60-70 degrees f.
iconoclast
Well-Known Member
I've used popcorn and it produced weak shrooms. It is contaminate resistant but that is probably the reason the shrooms are weak. I've always been happy with birdseed. I know some don't like it but I don't know why.
canndo
Well-Known Member
I have heard this before, however remember, they are not plants but survive by breaking complex substances into simple ones, in short, they make their own nutrients. Try growing your green smelly ladies on a diet of nothing but cardboard, ain't gonna happen. But certain decomposers will happily run their entire life cycle on it.
certainly the concentration of raw materials will make a difference, there are cases where one can sweeten a substrate with sugars or carbs or protein and in some instances alter the nutritional value of the fruit but this is rare and specific.
in my experience no normal substrate will affect the active chemical content of the mushroom growing on it to any noticeable degree.
canndo
Well-Known Member
one more thing all readers should remember, this tek was meant to be the lowest common denominator of simple. I have been on a mission to stop people from doing their first grow with pf tek but claiming that pf tek is bad without offering an alternative is just being cynical. To anyone who has read this far and may still be confused or unconvinced, don't worry, try it. I used this method for several years, it lacks sophistication, it is at first frightening in its simplicity but it will yield many times more mushrooms than pf in a fraction of the time and dispenses with all of the convolution of cakes and birthing, fruiting chambers, heating pads, fanning, dunking, rolling, tyveck, hole drilling, injection ports, rice grinding, consolidation and uncertainty. Do yourself a favor and try it before you fall for a system that was designed to sell syringes first and grow mushrooms second.
bsol
New Member
Hi guys,
My mycellium was growing very strong in all jars. When I added verm/coir the mycellium I had not shaken for a few days. After four days, the mycellium has not climbed climbed up the dirt at all. The mycellium is also getting weaker; its not as whispy as it used to be. I touched the dirt of one, and it is still moist. I am thinking the following:
1) I did not bake the dirt for long enough/hot enough and there is something in it thats killing the myc.
2) The dirt is packed too tightly or there is too much dirt (its probably two inches or more)
Any ideas? How long should I wait before I should panic?
My mycellium was growing very strong in all jars. When I added verm/coir the mycellium I had not shaken for a few days. After four days, the mycellium has not climbed climbed up the dirt at all. The mycellium is also getting weaker; its not as whispy as it used to be. I touched the dirt of one, and it is still moist. I am thinking the following:
1) I did not bake the dirt for long enough/hot enough and there is something in it thats killing the myc.
2) The dirt is packed too tightly or there is too much dirt (its probably two inches or more)
Any ideas? How long should I wait before I should panic?
iconoclast
Well-Known Member
Interesting sir. I really can't say much about it other than my experience. They were so contaminate resistant, I was able to successfully do open air, grain to grain, inoculation. I've never been successful with that using any other sub.
People often claim that manure is the best substrate. I will be able to give my opinion on that some time in the future.