NrthrnMichigan
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Nice grow! Lemme know when you start hour dwc...
Doubletake 4000 watt grow (soil
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DCobeen
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well i say keep doing what you are doing till you have enough to last you. then start the 9 dwc trees. they should take 4 months so you can veg 2 and flower 2. then you will have some vn trees.
RL420
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Also DCobeen/Doubletake, keep in mind how much hard back breaking work DWC bucket maintenance really is, if you are trying to run 9 DWC solo buckets, changing and cleaning those buckets weekly is going to be a BITCH(not to mention you'll need to refill the buckets with water twice or three times a week during flower, the girls guzzle in DWC). Work smarter not harder you know. Use a flood table with a SOG of nice 7-8 inch hardly clones, 1 plant per square foot. Exactly what Albfuct does and many others. It's going to give you giant yields with very little downtime between harvests.
https://www.rollitup.org/t/get-a-harvest-every-2-weeks.6592/
DCobeen
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Im gonna check them out. ty
youknowthekid!
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Pot size is everything. Next time I run soil I'm just going to invest in airpots once and for all since they last forever.
youknowthekid!
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When you go DWC just link all of your buckets at the base with pvc, run them in a nice circuit and put an extra-empty bucket at the end that has a good 300gph+ pump that'll return the flow to the first plant bucket. Do that and run a great clean line like H&G or Canna and you're golden. Only thing you will do wrong is veg too long (2 months lmao!!) because the growth in dwc is unparalleled and hard to contain throughout the cycle. Going rDwc will also allow you to scrog.
DCobeen
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im gonna do this i think. http://www.htgsupply.com/Product-Big-Boy-Hydroponic-System add a water chiller to chill the res i will need a 4x6 tent. then i can keep my closet going on AIS and do 1 huge scrog in there. that is down the road have to first get the 3 plants plus c99 and 4 clones done and see how much cash i have.
youknowthekid!
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Damn dude those ebb&flo have come way down in price. I still see myself grabbing the drill with the big ol' 2inch hole cutters and linking anywhere from 2-6 buckets depending on my space with a nice pump at the end to create an undercurrent. Either way, set it and forget it is what it's all about.
doubletake
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Yeah that's what i was thinking changing each bucket would be a bitch but I had 1 plant going and it was too hard mabey like a 15 minute process but still over 9 plants that does add up and topping off each bucket.
Alright we'll i could do a 10x10 tent with two 4x8 flood tables
With 25 no veg time clones in each 4x4 square for 100 clones!
Then that's only two res changes a week and top them off every now and then and bam easy.
The only problem with the tables I was thinkng is height but with no veg time they should be fine in a tent with only 7 foot ceilings huh?
doubletake
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Like the tables have come way down in price?
What do you need just table a like 18 gallon Rubbermaid tub for a res and a pump? And timer for each pump?
doubletake
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Will do I'm stuck between dwc or flood tables but thinking more about flood tables now.
chadster152
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They're actually 2 inch net pots...But I used a 1 7/8" hole saw, then used aquarium silicone to seal the net pots to the lid.
And ya that's rad man. Temps should be manageable as long as you have that ac running.
chadster152
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If you are gonna be running 9 ladies in DWC, then RDWC is the only way to go (as youknowthekid! said). But if you want the simplest way, then go with the flood tables. It all depends on SOG or SCROG. I personally like the growth of DWC and I like training so I would go with a RDWC SCROG setup. I have a few ideas for a RDWC that is floomed and waterfall aerated (eliminating air stones/pumps etc.), I just don't have the space or finances to do it yet.
doubletake
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Here is some pics from last night guys I guess day 41
So today is the beginning of week 6 getting pretty close!
And things are looking nice getting big and frosty.
Took these right when the lights were warming up so no lines across the pics!
So today is the beginning of week 6 getting pretty close!
And things are looking nice getting big and frosty.
Took these right when the lights were warming up so no lines across the pics!
jcommerce
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Nice grow.
Regarding DWC, I would personally never do more than a couple of individual DWC buckets (like I do with totes for moms). RDWC is the only way to go if you're running more than 2 - 3 plant sites. So incredibly easy...you're only dealing with the reservoir. Any changes made in the reservoir translate to all plants within minutes, if not seconds (e.g. adjust the rez Ph, depending on pump rate, you will know what Ph all plants are within seconds). Same goes for PPMs, temps, etc, etc. Using AN's concentrated Ph Up & Down, our entire 250 gallon, 24 plant system is Ph stable within 30 - 60 seconds (6000gph pump). With a float valve off our RO system, we can go days without checking (even though we usually still do). It's so nice to not wonder what this plant's Ph is or that plant's PPMs are...they are all identical. People get spooked about hydro and they think it's more work. Setting things up certainly is, but I would argue all day long that once set up, it's much easier and much less work than soil. I scratch my head at drain to waste systems...waste being the key word. With DWC, or ebb/flood (depending on media), you get to recirculate the nutrients to your heart's content (of course, the occasional change, addition, is always good). Much kinder on the pocket book as well.
Just like an aquarium, the larger the volume of water, the less impact changes have on the whole system (good or bad). Stability is easily controlled through greater water volume. Conversely, a large plant sitting in a 5 gallon bucket can drink 2 gallons in 24 hrs, no problem...you can only imagine what happens to PPMs and Ph when this occurs....don't think the plant is taking up 2 gallons worth of nutes too....PPMs can easily double and Ph can fall like crazy, then shock occurs.
Regarding DWC, I would personally never do more than a couple of individual DWC buckets (like I do with totes for moms). RDWC is the only way to go if you're running more than 2 - 3 plant sites. So incredibly easy...you're only dealing with the reservoir. Any changes made in the reservoir translate to all plants within minutes, if not seconds (e.g. adjust the rez Ph, depending on pump rate, you will know what Ph all plants are within seconds). Same goes for PPMs, temps, etc, etc. Using AN's concentrated Ph Up & Down, our entire 250 gallon, 24 plant system is Ph stable within 30 - 60 seconds (6000gph pump). With a float valve off our RO system, we can go days without checking (even though we usually still do). It's so nice to not wonder what this plant's Ph is or that plant's PPMs are...they are all identical. People get spooked about hydro and they think it's more work. Setting things up certainly is, but I would argue all day long that once set up, it's much easier and much less work than soil. I scratch my head at drain to waste systems...waste being the key word. With DWC, or ebb/flood (depending on media), you get to recirculate the nutrients to your heart's content (of course, the occasional change, addition, is always good). Much kinder on the pocket book as well.
Just like an aquarium, the larger the volume of water, the less impact changes have on the whole system (good or bad). Stability is easily controlled through greater water volume. Conversely, a large plant sitting in a 5 gallon bucket can drink 2 gallons in 24 hrs, no problem...you can only imagine what happens to PPMs and Ph when this occurs....don't think the plant is taking up 2 gallons worth of nutes too....PPMs can easily double and Ph can fall like crazy, then shock occurs.
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doubletake
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Thanks very very much for your detailed comment
Thanks for reminding me about multiple dwc buckets being a pain I did relize this after a few days of reading and talking to some people so def ebb/flow tables will be what I'm going with next round.
Only because I don't like vegging it's just boring to me and takes forever so I'm ganna pack 16 in each 4x4 and sea of green it is.
I am Defenently looking forward to the ease of just checking and changing out the Rez once a week. Wateri every other day all 30 plants in soil has been a pain and a lot of work.
doubletake
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So everything was looking nice today I water with nutes last water and so plain water this time. I think I will start flushing there is only about 14 to 20 days left, there getting huge really packing on that weight making me very happy ha. Should be fun to trim.
Thinking of dropping down to only 1800 watts this next round should help he heat.
I was all happy about the temp getting down to 80 but now it has risen........
High/low
84/70.
So I'm pretty stoked there is only 14ish days left so I can sell gees 1ks and go get some 600s
Two 600s over a 4x8 flood table
And 1 600 over the 2x4 table I have
Thinking of dropping down to only 1800 watts this next round should help he heat.
I was all happy about the temp getting down to 80 but now it has risen........
High/low
84/70.
So I'm pretty stoked there is only 14ish days left so I can sell gees 1ks and go get some 600s
Two 600s over a 4x8 flood table
And 1 600 over the 2x4 table I have
doubletake
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I got in there today guys
Things were looking nice, except one plant was straight on its side hahahaand a few others were leaning so I got to staking them up.
The weight is just growing so quick you can watch the, slowly keep sagging ha.
Harvest in about 10 to 15 days
Then hydro time!!!
Things were looking nice, except one plant was straight on its side hahahaand a few others were leaning so I got to staking them up.
The weight is just growing so quick you can watch the, slowly keep sagging ha.
Harvest in about 10 to 15 days
Then hydro time!!!
Indoor Sun King
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the last 2 weeks is always the longest wait, great looking grow doubletake