Need help with training, topping, super cropping??

greengoblin2014

greengoblin2014

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Have been looking into ways of training my plants.. I want to super crop but people have mentioned topping.. I want to veg for one month, if I top them does that mean I'll have to veg a lot longer? I think you're meant to veg for 3 weeks from seed then top then veg for at least another 4 weeks I havnt got time for that is 7-8 weeks the minimum veg time if topping? What if I just super crop and cut some of the lower growth off will it still yield nice? And wil I be able to do this training in 4 weeks? I could probably push an extra week to get the right size for bloom. I'm growing critical kush that is 100% indica and want to get it to 50cm / 20 inches high before switching to 12/12..
 
greengoblin2014

greengoblin2014

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I have done some searching into topping have looked at subcools advice on topping and uncle ben's topping for 4 main colas but a lot of the plant seems to get removed meaning you'd have to veg a lot longer I think? Have tried to search more info on it but don't really have time to look through hundreds of forum pages. Just a basic and simple answer on how long vegging would take with different techniques would be much appreciated and I can then make up my mind which method to use. I'm sooo excited to see the results :-)
 
greengoblin2014

greengoblin2014

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Ok I've found some more info.. Some people veg for 2 weeks after topping.. But some of the posts I was looking at they veg for 4-5 weeks before topping.. Subcool likes to top early and veg longer after and uncle ben likes to get 4 main colas by cutting at the 2nd node. I was thinking veg 3 weeks cut at the 2nd node and veg for another 2-3 weeks.. Does anybody else have an opinion on this?
 
mudhead31

mudhead31

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I don't know about that as I top at all stages and veg.constantly but I just finished up my first 2 supercropped plants and unless you like to trim 200 tiny buds I don't think I would recomend it.My yield was at least double but what a pain on the trimming end and both of the plants were easy trimming strains.I am moving on to a different method...LOL
 
greengoblin2014

greengoblin2014

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Did you just super crop? How long did you veg for? What size pot and what yield? I'm not to bothered about trimming as I'm going to by a spin pro trimmer off ebay maybe you should invest in one lol ;)
 
GrowinDad

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Goblin, you are combining alot of variables, making it hard to answer. Do have a plan to flip to flower at a certain height or time? Lighting and other variables impact height.

If getting more tops quickly is your goal, I think LST is best and easiest.
 
greengoblin2014

greengoblin2014

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So are you saying when you super cropped it was double that of if you topped at several stages? I'm trying to gather info cos I want to get max yield and want to be going for the best and quickest method
 
greengoblin2014

greengoblin2014

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Yeh I was planning on reaching about 50cm / 20 inches. I have 2 cooled 600w with dual spec bulbs in a 1.5x 1.5x 2m tent 4 plants in 20 litre air pots..
 
mudhead31

mudhead31

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I ahve a friend who uses one of those and I garantee you won't be happy with that it leaves way to much junk on the buds IMO it ruins the flavor.I used to get my smoke from him since he got that I don't anymore.I transplanted(3 gal) and supercropped 3 weeks before flowering.The girls had veged for about 4 wks before supercroping as far as yield I would say about 4 oz/plant but I'm not sure as it is on the drying screen now.I just checked out a thread on fimming and am leaning towards that right now for my next victims.
 
mudhead31

mudhead31

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Yes but the buds were all tiny Less than a gram except a couple of tops(3)to be exact.I would stick with topping before I bothered to suprcrop again.
 
greengoblin2014

greengoblin2014

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Ok cool thanks if it takes me a bit longer to veg I'll just have to suffer it i guess. With the trimmer the more you turn it the better the trim that's what most of the guys on youtube say, maybe your pal is not using it properly?
 
mudhead31

mudhead31

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greengoblin2014 said:
50cm before switching to 12/12 so they should end up about 1 metre tall
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That depends entirely on your strain as some stretch more than others.I have never grown critical kush but all the kush I have grown has been pretty stretchy[8-ball kush,lemon kush,og kush,burmese kush,and afghan kush(haven't finished one of these yet)].The ones I have done started flowering at about 2 feet and all finished upwards of 5feet.
 
greengoblin2014

greengoblin2014

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Ok I was planning on super cropping and cutting off some of the lower growth (lolipoping) a little too maybe that will help with nicer sized buds I guess the best way is to try doing the different methods and seeing the results different strains might act different to different methods too.
 
mudhead31

mudhead31

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greengoblin2014 said:
Ok cool thanks if it takes me a bit longer to veg I'll just have to suffer it i guess. With the trimmer the more you turn it the better the trim that's what most of the guys on youtube say, maybe your pal is not using it properly?
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He bought the elctric version as he is a caregiver and produces mass quanity but it also beats up your buds and knocks crystals off as well as not doing the greatest job IMO.
 
mudhead31

mudhead31

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greengoblin2014 said:
Ok I was planning on super cropping and cutting off some of the lower growth (lolipoping) a little too maybe that will help with nicer sized buds I guess the best way is to try doing the different methods and seeing the results different strains might act different to different methods too.
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You hit it right on the head there they will all respond differently to the same thing and all you can do is experiment thats what I do and the tricks I like I keep and the others I just ckall up to expierience...LOL...good luck with your grow
 
greengoblin2014

greengoblin2014

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Cool thanks a lot. I think I will go with super cropping and lolipoping this time and hope it goes well thanks for the input :)
 
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