How much or little do you think the US should intervene in foreign affairs?

killemsoftly

killemsoftly

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Dr Kynes said:
the "palestinians" in the camps, the ones who are making so much trouble are the descendants of squatters who charged in during the pre-ww2 land rush, after the balfour declaration that stated that fellahin who lived in the levant would own their land still, and the jews would have to buy any land not owned by the british crown.
arabs from all over charged in, copped a squat and claimed ancestral rights.
this is FACT.
hundreds of thousands of arabs flooded the levant, while the british mandatory authorities prevented jews from immigrating.
who are the "palestinians" who lived in the levant before the founding of israel? the 30% of israel's population who are arab israeli citizens.
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Oh.
So now there are Palestinians. I get it.
I'll do some reading on British Mandate Palestine.
Regardless, there's no denying the whole 'Med' saw massive population transfers during the 20th century: Greeks, Turks, Mizrahi's, Sephardim and Palestinians.
 
DonAlejandroVega

DonAlejandroVega

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killemsoftly said:
Oh.
So now there are Palestinians. I get it.
I'll do some reading on British Mandate Palestine.
Regardless, there's no denying the whole 'Med' saw massive population transfers during the 20th century: Greeks, Turks, Mizrahi's, Sephardim and Palestinians.
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read Twain's, "Innocents Abroad." no "palestinians."
 
killemsoftly

killemsoftly

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Keynes, please descend back to earth.
You claim a massive influx into palestiine after ww1. Citation please.
Your distortions never end it would seem.
BTW: The brits never restricted Jewish immigration until 1939. After the Arab revolts remember? Perhaps an attempt at governance rather than the discrimination you imply.
DonAlejandroVega said:
read Twain's, "Innocents Abroad." no "palestinians."
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BS. Your citing Twain? Get real. Go read Morris, Pappe and other Israeli 'New Historians'. You can't just make it up as you go along. Reality doesn't work that way.
 
DonAlejandroVega

DonAlejandroVega

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killemsoftly said:
Keynes, please descend back to earth.
You claim a massive influx into palestiine after ww1. Citation please.
Your distortions never end it would seem.
BTW: The brits never restricted Jewish immigration until 1939. After the Arab revolts remember? Perhaps an attempt at governance rather than the discrimination you imply.

BS. Your citing Twain? Get real. Go read Morris, Pappe and other Israeli 'New Historians'. You can't just make it up as you go along. Reality doesn't work that way.
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I don't care enough about the issue to read new histories, by apologists. all I know is that the Muslims wish to deprive the Jews of their most revered holy site, mentioned 800 times in the Torah, because Muhammed, peanut butter upon him, had a dream, to an unspecified magic city, on a flying monster horse. Jerusalem is who the Jews are. maybe you an' the Green Party can go take it from them, dude. don't waste money on a return ticket.
 
abandonconflict

abandonconflict

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DonAlejandroVega said:
I don't care enough about the issue to read new histories, by apologists. all I know is that the Muslims wish to deprive the Jews of their most revered holy site, mentioned 800 times in the Torah, because Muhammed, peanut butter upon him, had a dream, to an unspecified magic city, on a flying monster horse. Jerusalem is who the Jews are. maybe you an' the Green Party can go take it from them, dude. don't waste money on a return ticket.
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Deciphering...

It's ours because the mythology book says so.
 
killemsoftly

killemsoftly

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abandonconflict said:
Palestinians are represented? It's not a Jewish state?
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Thought you might find this interesting AC.
"...over the past three years, eight of nine of these Arab Knesset members have been beaten by Israeli forces during demonstrations."
Also,
"...legislation has been passed, including three election laws [e.g., banning political parties], and two Knesset related laws aimed to "significantly curb the minority [Arab population] right to choose a public representative and for those representatives to develop independent political platforms and carry out their duties." Sources: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_citizens_of_Israel#Politics

Sounds very democratic. I want convert to Islam and move to Israel. It sounds great. Surprised that Israeli bureaucrats haven't figured out how to 'GOP' them and use a lack of I.D. or some such nonsense to disenfranchise them.
 
abandonconflict

abandonconflict

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I know of another fascist country in the last century that brutally oppressed millions of its own people and tried to revise history. It eventually became quite genocidal.
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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Harrekin said:
Doer thinks the guy he votes for gives a shit about him.

It's lulzy.
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He gets a little squirrelly sometimes when individuals throw rocks at his "we". He's okay, and a necessary component of the rollitup politics eco-system.
ttystikk said:
Beat 'em or join 'em. How many of your family members do or have served in the Federal Government? 'THEY' are no more a single monolithic entity than We the People. And it turns out that We the People are the folks who make up the Federal Government.

We can all work to make it better for US, and the best way to do that is from within.

Because you aren't going to beat them. Them is us...
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No, in order for an individual to be part of a "we" , that individual must consent to it.


Also, people that work for the federal government like to use euphemisms like "serving". However, that is not the correct word to apply when a person that must pay for the alleged "service" of said federal parasite is made to do so under threat of force.

Service providers transact with their customers on a consensual basis. Thugs, on the other hand via extortion.

Have a great day.
 
DonAlejandroVega

DonAlejandroVega

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"No, in order for an individual to be part of a "we" , that individual must consent to it................."
or, he has a mouse in his pocket. or perhaps some other small rodent.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Rob Roy said:
He gets a little squirrelly sometimes when individuals throw rocks at his "we". He's okay, and a necessary component of the rollitup politics eco-system.


No, in order for an individual to be part of a "we" , that individual must consent to it.


Also, people that work for the federal government like to use euphemisms like "serving". However, that is not the correct word to apply when a person that must pay for the alleged "service" of said federal parasite is made to do so under threat of force.

Service providers transact with their customers on a consensual basis. Thugs, on the other hand via extortion.

Have a great day.
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I'm really honestly sorry you feel that way. It's very self limiting.
 
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