Why hasnt Obama come out and made public comments on the VA scandal?

[killemsoftly]

90% of us already had insurance, 90% of us still have insurance. The only difference is yet another layer of bureaucracy.
As far as janitor, it's more like torch bearer.

It is a private system with federal money injected and no denials. You are complaining people have insurance? It was a Romney plan. It isn't a universal socialist system.
Venting? Dog not around? Wife left?

 

[killemsoftly]

elizabeth warren.

Nice one.
I bet she'd do well. I'm not super familiar with her.
I do think Hillary is sharp but I've never liked her style and believe there's too much history between her and the GOP. Could you imagine the games Congress would play. It would be brutal. I do credit her for ideas, work ethic and talent. I think she was good at State.

 

[UncleBuck]

It is a private system with federal money injected and no denials. You are complaining people have insurance? It was a Romney plan. It isn't a universal socialist system.
Venting? Dog not around? Wife left?

.

Nice one.
I bet she'd do well. I'm not super familiar with her.
I do think Hillary is sharp but I've never liked her style and believe there's too much history between her and the GOP. Could you imagine the games Congress would play. It would be brutal. I do credit her for ideas, work ethic and talent. I think she was good at State.

elizabeth warren basically kicks ass.

hillary would prove that pink is the new black.

 

[kelly4]

his job performance.

personal likeability is somewhere around 80%.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/05/20/cnn-poll-likability-helps-obama-survive-brutal-week/

He's an idiot...but, he's soooo dreeaamy!

 

[ginwilly]

It is a private system with federal money injected and no denials. You are complaining people have insurance? It was a Romney plan. It isn't a universal socialist system.
Venting? Dog not around? Wife left?

sounds like i touched a nerve.

I'm just stating that the numbers are the same and costs will go up because of the new layer of bureaucracy. I had no emotional attachment to that statement at all.

Look what you made out of that. You wonder why libs get the stereotype of hysterically emotional. You made no attempt to dispute the facts, you went directly to an emotional appeal, then tried to project feelings you have onto me. Don't be a Bucktard killem, you are better than that.

 

[killemsoftly]

sounds like i touched a nerve.
I'm just stating that the numbers are the same and costs will go up because of the new layer of bureaucracy. I had no emotional attachment to that statement at all.
Look what you made out of that. You wonder why libs get the stereotype of hysterically emotional. You made no attempt to dispute the facts, you went directly to an emotional appeal, then tried to project feelings you have onto me. Don't be a Bucktard killem, you are better than that.

I just stated some basic facts. I was being ironic at the end; sorry to direct it at you, I meant it generally towards a media position that recurs.

I've heard very little facts but lots of rhetoric about this. Health care debates in both the U.S. and Canada usually are heavy on rhetoric not facts. Usually there is deliberate disinformation. The actual numbers, ie. $/capita when corelated to outcomes, are what matters. That is where the evidence lies. Wrapping a debate in apple pie and screaming (done by many with vested interests; not accusing you) tends to suppress evidence. Evidence suggests that state intervention into the market produces beneficial overrall results in the economy. One of he most important coverages is catastrophic. Not insuring for this causes instability for individuals and effects the overall economy.

 

[UncleBuck]

sounds like i touched a nerve.

I'm just stating that the numbers are the same and costs will go up because of the new layer of bureaucracy. I had no emotional attachment to that statement at all.

Look what you made out of that. You wonder why libs get the stereotype of hysterically emotional. You made no attempt to dispute the facts, you went directly to an emotional appeal, then tried to project feelings you have onto me. Don't be a Bucktard killem, you are better than that.

what facts? there is no "new layer of bureaucracy" you doddering racist fool.

i tire of lying little turds like you who make up lies to stroke his racist grudge.

 

[Doer]

what facts? there is no "new layer of bureaucracy" you doddering racist fool.

i tire of lying little turds like you who make up lies to stroke his racist grudge.

wrf, NO NEW LAYER???

So, the Closet Racist here is a blind man and a fool. Such a sick fuck to be so obsessed, as to be the worse snarling racist of them all.

I see it. We all see it.

"The Lady doth protest too much," WS.

 

[UncleBuck]

wrf, NO NEW LAYER???

So, the Closet Racist here is a blind man and a fool. Such a sick fuck to be so obsessed, as to be the worse snarling racist of them all.

I see it. We all see it.

"The Lady doth protest too much," WS.

what new layer of bureaucracy then?

last time i needed medical attention, the process went exactly the same as before obamacare.

if you mean to say "new marketplace that fosters competition between insurers", i'll give ya that.

but absolutely nothing has changed about getting medical attention, unless of course you have a pre-existing condition. in which case it is easier to get medical attention.

 

[Doer]

The IRS is the new layer on heath care. The "market pool" is another new layer,

Are really that shrill shrieking, tone deaf, PART brained?

Sure the mind-dead droids that are just the consumers like cows at the trough, don't want see those new layers of govt. You will do better, one day.

 

[UncleBuck]

The IRS is the new layer on heath care.

i did not have to deal with the IRS in any way when getting medical attention. just called urgent care and went.

the IRS is only there to deal with the FREELOADER problem.

if you care to not address the FREELOADER problem, then you do not get to bitch and moan about higher health care costs.

The "market pool" is another new layer

how is a marketplace of competing health insurance plans that consumers get to choose from a new layer of bureaucracy on getting medical care?

it's a simpification of the process for getting health insurance, not medical care.

are you so much of a tone deaf, shrill, shrieking parisan that you can not even differentiate between health insurance and health care?

obamacare was health insurance reform that simply made it easier to get health insurance and addressed the FREELOADER problem.

go cry some more, you partisan.

 

[Doer]

It is the layer, stupid. You claimed there were no new govt layers.

 

[Doer]

"I'll just call you Stupid." Cyrus Toliver. Deadwood 1878

So, Stupid, SCOTUS said this was a TAX. You have no idea what is being taxed.

I'm not talking about the stupids, Stupid. It is a tax on devices and delivery that we didn't have. It is new tax on providers, Stupid.

Extra govt layers. Too stupid to discuss the facts as they emerge.

 

[UncleBuck]

It is the layer, stupid. You claimed there were no new govt layers.

there are no new "government layers" between me and my doctor. getting medical attention is the same as it always was.

buying insurance, however, has been made easier. and the FREELOADERS will have to face a new layer called the IRS as an impediment to their FREELOADING.

but there is no new layer of bureaucracy in receiving health care.

stop being a silly stupid partisan hack.

 

[Doer]

I do know why the worm wiggles on the hook.

 

[UncleBuck]

I do know why the worm wiggles on the hook.

i don't care what you do with your penis.

there is no new layer of bureaucracy.

you tried to name "the IRS". nope. they have nothing to do with my health care. even the FREELOADERS get the same health care as before. the IRS just tells them not to FREELOAD at the end of the FY.

you tried to name "the market pool". nope. the market pool is a new way of buying health insurance, and has nothing to do with receiving health care. it is not even a new layer of bureaucracy, it is a tool that makes competition more apparent and buying insurance easier.

stop being a shrill, shrieking, partisan hack and show me the new layer.

 

[Doer]

Hey, Stupid.

It is a tax. The IRS has an entire new division. The medical research will be tax and exmptions granted to control what level of tech we ever see.

No one said, layers between you and your Doctor. But, many cannot see the same Doctor. I know, Stupid, you were told that was all lies.

But, we know, Stupid. You are all lies.

 

[Doer]

Penis, you poor homophobe?

A penis wiggles on the hook? You are a marginal person at best.

 

[UncleBuck]

Hey, Stupid.

It is a tax. The IRS has an entire new division. The medical research will be tax and exmptions granted to control what level of tech we ever see.

No one said, layers between you and your Doctor. But, many cannot see the same Doctor. I know, Stupid, you were told that was all lies.

But, we know, Stupid. You are all lies.

still waiting for you to show me this new layer of bureaucracy, stupid.

 

[Doer]

Who paid for the market pool stupid?

Who set it up badly?