LED Companies w/ LINKS

PetFlora

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SDS I have felt this true for some time. It is why I chose to mix monochromes with the ~ 70% 3000/2700K in the SPYDR 600, though I perhaps went a bit overboard with the blues combining 450 (6) + 6500 (1) + 5000K (~ 10%) on each 3ft bar. Added ~ 5% 625s, too, and zero 660s

I think most of you saw the results.

Beginning to smoke it now.

A tiny amount frees me from a lot of tension that I was unaware of carrying 24/7


I asked BML to swap out 4 bars to 90% 2700k ~ 10% 4500k, but haven't heard back
 
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stardustsailor

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Very interesting :

http://www.optogan.com/assets/files/datasheet/Datasheet_X10_Family_v13_eng.pdf


COBs up to 500 Watt....

http://www.optogan.com/company

http://www.optogan.com/products/led-solutions

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Who is Valoya's supplier of the proprietary horticultural PC leds ?
I wonder ...
Haven't found that out ,yet ...

proprietary leds valoya.JPG

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Those with the orange phosphor ....
They just yell Deep Red Nitride Phosphor ...
 
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PetFlora

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They seem to be using just Osram or Nichia (?) Neutral Whites at 93+ CRI .....

(...)
Luminous efficiency: > 84 lm/w
Color Temperature: 5500 - 6250 k
Operating Temperature Range: - 20 ~ 50℃
Illuminance at a Distance(Lux): > 8,000 Lux at 30cm
CRI: Ra> 92 ± 3 ≦15% (20,000 hours)
(...)

http://www.daogrow.com/

Yeah, for growing non fruiting plants

As you know,

MJ needs a heavy dose of red for flowering/fruiting
 

Red1966

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Hey SDS, how's it hangin'? :) Thanks for the info. Again! :) Actually I'm reading it now and it's got lots of studies I missed. It would make a great sticky/primer for noobs and novices alike, maybe a little light on the COB and white info, but still good solid SCIENCE based (Hi PF ;)) primer.

I'm interested to see if Illumitex dumped the 5000K from the F3 line with the F3A. RGB +730nm does make sense and opens up the possibility of having control over at least the RGB portion and would be completely killer if you can control the 730nm too, especially for perpetual growers who could turn it off during the stretch when introducing a new plant, though on the F3 I believe FR only encompasses 1 or 2 % of the total beam content and may not be that big of contributor to excess stretch. Then again you really don't need that much FR, (or do we? LOL) to begin with so it might contribute to stretch significantly. God I'm confusing myself now! LOL And another great aspect is the ability to control the green percentage and try to find out the amount MMJ likes and how much retards growth, as excess green can in certain situations I've been led to believe.

And another big question is, (Hi ChazB), is the Aurora getting a UL listing? I mean if it's a real replacement it's gotta have that and a few other ratings to be accepted in the US, right? I just can't see Illumitex dropping the ball on that account, but who knows what UL is going to say.

Questions SDS, always questions. Sigh. Can they freeze me and wake me up in 50 years? I bet PSU.jr will be here telling me what's what! LOL Then again, HAIL DISCOVERY and all her rewards. Nothing like getting in from the beginning, right boss?

Oh yeah, I started to read that MIT report a few days ago and these lines just stopped me in my tracks, "They calculate that the cumulative cost of high pressure sodium lamps surpasses that of LEDs after just 7 years and that after 16 years the cumulative cost of high pressure sodium lamps is more than double the equivalent cost of LEDs." I would love to see how they came up with that number. I'm thinking that's just pulling numbers out of your ass to prove a point type logic and thinking. In 7 years you're gonna lose some output. Output that might cost a business significant money or damage one's reputation. You think they included lumen deprecation? Or the failure rate of your drivers? I don't think they did those numbers or at least I don't think they want to talk about them. And how do you get a sales department to use that as a selling point?

And this one too is a killer to me, "Although high pressure sodium lamps are individually cheaper than LEDs, they have to be changed every year compared to every 19 years for LEDs." 19 years! WTF! In 19 years you'll be getting 10+ grams a watt or something crazy insane, (quick someone do Haitz's Law to see where LEDs are in 19 years). My respect for MIT just went down a bit.
The new lights available in 2033 will have no effect on the lights you bought in 2014. Haitz Law does not apply to devices already manufactured.
 

PetFlora

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Absolutely, depending on how much warm white is in the NW. 5000k might be considered NW, but so is 4500, which I would prefer for veg/clones

But I suspect most NWs today are fine for vegging
 

stardustsailor

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Absolutely, depending on how much warm white is in the NW. 5000k might be considered NW, but so is 4500, which I would prefer for veg/clones

But I suspect most NWs today are fine for vegging
Pet this is a high CRI NW .....

I've used them ...
And they are great ...
But not that efficient ....

spectra LCW Cx7P_CC.jpg

The cyan line ,at the graph ....
They are like RGB ,somewhat ....
(R-G-B peaks almost even ....)
 

epicfail

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They seem to be using just Osram or Nichia (?) Neutral Whites at 93+ CRI .....

(...)
Luminous efficiency: > 84 lm/w
Color Temperature: 5500 - 6250 k
Operating Temperature Range: - 20 ~ 50℃
Illuminance at a Distance(Lux): > 8,000 Lux at 30cm
CRI: Ra> 92 ± 3 ≦15% (20,000 hours)
(...)

http://www.daogrow.com/
My Buddy went to order the 4 shelf version yesterday for a kitchen herb garden. Its like 400$cdn for the unit and 450$cdn for shipping, Its too much and because of that they lost a sale. He is already in Canada also so shipping shouldn't be that much.
 

stardustsailor

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My Buddy went to order the 4 shelf version yesterday for a kitchen herb garden. Its like 400$cdn for the unit and 450$cdn for shipping, Its too much and because of that they lost a sale. He is already in Canada also so shipping shouldn't be that much.
Bummer ...
>:(...

That smells scam ....

Cheers.
:peace:
 

PetFlora

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Pet this is a high CRI NW .....

I've used them ...
And they are great ...
But not that efficient ....

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The cyan line ,at the graph ....
They are like RGB ,somewhat ....
(R-G-B peaks almost even ....)

DAMN!:bigjoint::bigjoint::bigjoint:

but won't it be a 'bit' blue heavy for flower?

As you know, I erred on the side of caution with the spectrums I chose for the BML (due to making a combo for veg and flower), although the result was best I've done using more controllable hot5s
 

Red1966

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Whaaaaat? Not even close but thanks for playing.
Responded to this part of the post.: " And this one too is a killer to me, "Although high pressure sodium lamps are individually cheaper than LEDs, they have to be changed every year compared to every 19 years for LEDs." 19 years! WTF! In 19 years you'll be getting 10+ grams a watt or something crazy insane, (quick someone do Haitz's Law to see where LEDs are in 19 years). My respect for MIT just went down a bit.


FTD"
 

PSUAGRO.

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In 19 years we'll have robotic grow cabinets with nanobots that correct deficiencies, kill pests, etc.

Saw a news article which said computers (AI, robotics, etc.) will become self aware around 2050, will be the big threat to human existence. (Wasn't scifi. A real news article.).
That, or we'll be printing our bud with 3d printers.

The future is exciting. I just read an article about how in the next 15 to 30 years nanobots will be roaming our bloodstreams fixing diseased or aging organs and computers will be backing up our memories.
I won't lie, some of that sounds great but the terminator shit scares me.....hopefully I'll have a robot mommy too hug me when it all goes south ;-)
 

FranJan

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^^^^Hmmmm still need more info from Advanced but who is the "competing 5w LED grow lights"? Anyone we know???? :) I know I'm a Advanced basher but there's a bit more info I would need to know before I would crown this their best vegging panel yet ;). Are those XT-E Royal Blues I see? Yeah, now I see where the PAR ratings are coming from if they're there. Super High Flux 5 watts? C'mon Advanced, spill the beans :).
 
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