Should the US support Israel forever ?

Should the US support Israel, no matter what?

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Doer

Doer

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londonfog said:
Doer I usually respect and like your post even when we disagree, but do stop pretending like you know what I have done.
I'm not taking sides with any religion, or practice. I do believe in being truthful when you speak.
When you say all Jihad is violence you are incorrect.
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Stop tap dancing. You have no way to back that claim.

All Jihad is to take the world from all other religions, by whatever means.

I know that for a fact. I cannot get any Muslim to deny it.

Can you? No. You are just making it up. You are being an apologist just like the old rulers of Spain.
 
earnest_voice

earnest_voice

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Doer said:
Stop tap dancing. You have no way to back that claim.

All Jihad is to take the world from all other religions, by whatever means.

I know that for a fact. I cannot get any Muslim to deny it.

Can you? No. You are just making it up. You are being an apologist just like the old rulers of Spain.
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Just like your claim that you've traveled the world and talked to Muslims, unverifiable.

Where did this current context of jihad originate from? Because it wasn't the Qur'an, rather extremist interpretations of it by Egyptians like Qtub who gave birth to the ideologies of Al-Zawahiri.

Doer said:
Bullshit.
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Actually your claim about your FBI friend is bullshit. Verifiable Bullshit. Your own governments policy states this and is applicable to interpreters.
 
londonfog

londonfog

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Doer said:
Stop tap dancing. You have no way to back that claim.

All Jihad is to take the world from all other religions, by whatever means.

I know that for a fact. I cannot get any Muslim to deny it.

Can you? No. You are just making it up. You are being an apologist just like the old rulers of Spain.
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I suggest you read the Qur'an 2:190-193 My guess is you don't read Arabic, so a translation should help
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCsQFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fberkleycenter.georgetown.edu%2Fresources%2Fquotes%2Fqur-an-2-190-193&ei=AenLU4mWOoanyAT5woGQCQ&usg=AFQjCNEEJA5QRgrpmxh4pMqU2hCzrZ_bvw&sig2=R2N8RyyGkoDT--1ZfJwX7A&bvm=bv.71198958,d.aWw
 
Doer

Doer

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Fine. You think I lie? So what? It doesn't matter to me, since it is only your ego to think I am trying to convince you or debate about it. I am not doing anything more than just reporting on my many decades of adulthood.

So, your insults are petty and childish seeming to me.
 
Doer

Doer

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londonfog said:
I suggest you read the Qur'an 2:190-193 My guess is you don't read Arabic, so a translation should help
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That is the tap dance. I get that a lot. I ask a direct question and get, "Where does it say that?" We had a big discussion here on RIU with two guys, one Saudi and the other was Chechen. The Saudi guy, would give nothing but the "where does it say that" dance, and other tale chasing words, and left.

The Chechen and I vowed to kill each other on sight and then discussed this in a bit of depth. He was the first honest warrior and the last except my friend at a FBI, who finally just said, "but if God wills it.....?" and shrugged.

That, at least, is honest.

This has nothing to do with Terror btw, except, it is just another tool of Conquest.

That is not even the question, "where does it say that? do you even read Arabic?"

Jihad is defined by the Clerics and has only one aim.

Nice try, but fail.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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so what's the body count on islamic terrorists versus christian terrorists?

i think the muslims are at about 3000 or so and we're at about a quarter million dead iraquis and afghanis.

are we winning?
 
Doer

Doer

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It is not about terror it is about Jihad and Jihad is winning.

Your GeeHaw angle is just more apology to me.
 
Doer

Doer

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Hey recluseBuck. All locked down on your profile. Can't take the heat?

Buck, what is the shinning example of a Peaceful Muslim Country.

Jordan? They have the most vicious Internal Security outside Saudi.

There is no such thing as a peaceful Muslim country.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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Doer said:
Walter Cronkite thinks its about body count.

War is about winning at any and all cost.
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we're winning the jihad then by about 80 to 1.

yet it's you and nontheist shitting your pants in fear about those thuper thcawy muzwimth.

it's absolutely adorable to watch you two have your little fear and panic episodes.
 
earnest_voice

earnest_voice

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Doer said:
To find the non-thinker just look in your mirror.
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LOL some of the stuff you come up with is priceless. Are you saying the US should stop all support of these countries? After meddling in affairs that have nothing to do with you, ousting democratically elected governments in lieu off these repressive regimes you speak of and setting up this current sectarian shitstorm in Iraq now you're worried about militant jihadism? Priceless
 
Doer

Doer

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No I say you are brainless posting that picture.

And Buck clear discussion is not fear. You show the Ostrich Ass of Fear.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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Doer said:
Hey recluseBuck. All locked down on your profile. Can't take the heat?

Buck, what is the shinning example of a Peaceful Muslim Country.

Jordan? They have the most vicious Internal Security outside Saudi.

There is no such thing as a peaceful Muslim country.
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where's your shining example of a peaceful "christian" nation?
 
earnest_voice

earnest_voice

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Doer said:
No I say you are brainless posting that picture.

And Buck clear discussion is not fear. You show the Ostrich Ass of Fear.
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Doer your comments thus far in response to presented facts isn't flattering. You either shrug it off with "bullshit" or claim I am some kind of jihadist apologist, which is contrary to my clearly stated position. Clear discussion on your part would involve presenting factual and clear points of contention to which you have not.

I'm sorry but your contention all Muslims are jihadists is incorrect. Western understanding of jihadism in todays world implies militantism and this is the context in which we've been discussing the term.

I cannot believe for a minute that all muslims have an inner militant/insurgent/terrorist waiting to burst out. Militant Jihadism in our post WW2 world is a sickos take on islam and doesn't represent muslims as a whole.

Read "milestones" if your interested in the brotherhoods origins post ww2.
 
londonfog

londonfog

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Doer said:
That is the tap dance. I get that a lot. I ask a direct question and get, "Where does it say that?" We had a big discussion here on RIU with two guys, one Saudi and the other was Chechen. The Saudi guy, would give nothing but the "where does it say that" dance, and other tale chasing words, and left.

The Chechen and I vowed to kill each other on sight and then discussed this in a bit of depth. He was the first honest warrior and the last except my friend at a FBI, who finally just said, "but if God wills it.....?" and shrugged.

That, at least, is honest.

This has nothing to do with Terror btw, except, it is just another tool of Conquest.

That is not even the question, "where does it say that? do you even read Arabic?"

Jihad is defined by the Clerics and has only one aim.

Nice try, but fail.
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again reading the Qur'an that would be your best understanding. It will also show how false your statement is.
 
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