My shame

[WHODAT@THADOR]

Well...I believe w/o all that and not based on vids either.........I used to be really bad into coke(clean now dont touch it) and after a few days up on it..I finally crashed out...And I had on of the most vivid dreams of life...I actually think I stopped breathing in my sleep but will never know...
I was driving my car down the road in a dense fog the road was only liit by my headlights........In the fog was a distant light that I knew I had to reach when I reached it ...It was a huge modern looking cathedral and the light was a cross on top with two monstrous gothic cathedral style doors...They swung open for my car and I was surrounded by people from all ages,different style clothes Hair do the works......And there was a gentlemen at a counter in a suit with the blackest hair I have ever seen....There was another identical door on the otherside and I said to him that I must get through he said It was not my time I told he wasn't stopping me and went back to my car with the intention of driving through the door....I no sooner started the car he was out side my window his eyes glowed red like a monster in the movies and he said in this commanding omnious voice that I still and yet to here a replica of it is not your time and he spun my car and I up into a vortex through the cross and I woke up like somebody had just punched me that same feeling you get when you just jump and hit the ground on your stomach the voice was still echoing in my ears when I woke up.....
So me I believe lol

 

[canndo]

Tripping is a side affect of an allergic reaction youre having to eating a poison thats in mushies. Lol i think if they were intelligent and could talk i would feel bad eating them alive, or picking them, drying them, and then eating them. It would be like the texas mushroom massacre lol.

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this I'd absolutely false. An alergic reaction is an over reaction of regection mechanisms, none of which are commonly activated as a result of ingestion of psychoactives.

further, few of them are poison. This is like saying that seratonin or dopamine is poison.

I have seen this lay explaination for complex biochemical reactions before and it belongs in the "holes in the brain", "kills brain cells", "stays in the spine" stoner myth.

 

[MightyMike530]

The mind is so beautiful!

I am glad you had that experience and are clean now.

 

[kmog33]

this I'd absolutely false. An alergic reaction is an over reaction of regection mechanisms, none of which are commonly activated as a result of ingestion of psychoactives.

further, few of them are poison. This is like saying that seratonin or dopamine is poison.

I have seen this lay explaination for complex biochemical reactions before and it belongs in the "holes in the brain", "kills brain cells", "stays in the spine" stoner myth.

So you dont itch when you eat cubes?
Definition of allergy: a damaging immune response by the body to a substance.

Sorry but it is an allergic reaction whether or not you like the side effects.

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[WHODAT@THADOR]

Animal

This is fascinating, well everything you wrote was, but this especially. Do you have a source for the study perhaps?

Tho, this reminded me, riddlem3 used to claim he could hear his plants scream when he doused their roots with boiling water at the end of his grows?!

Just a few weeks ago animal planet had a viid where they put radioactive carbon on a branch of a mature trees and tracked it through the same mycelial networks cann is talking about to it saplings to communicate with em

 

[canndo]

Tripping is a side affect of an allergic reaction youre having to eating a poison thats in mushies. Lol i think if they were intelligent and could talk i would feel bad eating them alive, or picking them, drying them, and then eating them. It would be like the texas mushroom massacre lol.

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one more thing, you are not eating the organism any more than you are eating a tree when you eat an almond.

 

[kmog33]

one more thing, you are not eating the organism any more than you are eating a tree when you eat an almond.

This is a stupid argument, itching as a side effect of ingestion is an allergic reaction, your neurons reacting abnormally as a result of ingestion also is an allergic reaction.
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[canndo]

This is fascinating, well everything you wrote was, but this especially. Do you have a source for the study perhaps?

Tho, this reminded me, riddlem3 used to claim he could hear his plants scream when he doused their roots with boiling water at the end of his grows?!

thus was a fairly recent study where they put a plant in each if two sealed rooms, a microphone in one and a speaker in the other and then let a bug have at the microphone plant. I do not recall how they measured the plants reaction.

 

[JJ05]

Canndo do you recall the study of the plant and lie detector? They hooked the plants up to them. One person went in with intentions on harming the plants, the lie detector went berzerk! The other person went in with intentions on watering the plants and the lie detector remained calm.

 

[WHODAT@THADOR]

Canndo do you recall the study of the plant and lie detector? They hooked the plants up to them. One person went in with intentions on harming the plants, the lie detector went berzerk! The other person went in with intentions on watering the plants and the lie detector remained calm.

That's a kewl one there JJ

 

[canndo]

Pretty much ...lol...But everything is Theory until proven I just read a article were they think you can fold a piece of paper 103 times and get the thickness of the universe

this is not theory actually. It is math. Get the thickness of the paper and double it for each fold. Like the grain reward from the king. A servant did a good deed and the king granted him one wish. "I desire only the smallest of things, place upon the first square of a chess board a single grain of wheat. Upon the next place double the first. Upon the next, double the second and continue to the last."

of course, the king found it impossible.

 

[JJ05]

That's a kewl one there JJ

It really makes ya wonder. I heard plants even warn eachother of incoming predators and such.

 

[canndo]

So you dont itch when you eat cubes?
Definition of allergy: a damaging immune response by the body to a substance.

Sorry but it is an allergic reaction whether or not you like the side effects.

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it is not sir, you can name no other alergic reaction that has the same effect. I saw your link but that refers to reactions to aspects of the spore and cubensis spores are not psychoactive. Nor would it explain why the pure chemical has identical effects to the mushroom.

there are specific receptors in the brain that interlock with psylocibin which mimics brain chemicals. If what you claim were to be true you would be high all the time.

 

[Bublonichronic]

I think a lot of those DMT and most other psychedilc experiences are pre-planned, meaning somewhere something got into the persons brain that this is how the trip should be and when the restraints on the mind are loosened by the substance what has been put into the brain comes out. Its all in your mind, always.

True,this is why I don't like to read trip reports, but I think after a good amount of use your gonna get to the raw nature of the chemical all bullshit aside...

 

[canndo]

Canndo do you recall the study of the plant and lie detector? They hooked the plants up to them. One person went in with intentions on harming the plants, the lie detector went berzerk! The other person went in with intentions on watering the plants and the lie detector remained calm.

yes and the kirlian photography that turned out to be a hoax.

I don't know the exotics of all this, what I do know is that we don't know much and that strange things have yet to be discovered. I am a gaiaist. I believe that the planet is a single organism and it is entirely possible that mushrooms are its nervous system. Mushrooms, after all represent more biomass than any other living thing.

 

[WHODAT@THADOR]

yes and the kirlian photography that turned out to be a hoax.

I don't know the exotics of all this, what I do know is that we don't know much and that strange things have yet to be discovered. I am a gaiaist. I believe that the planet is a single organism and it is entirely possible that mushrooms are its nervous system. Mushrooms, after all represent more biomass than any other living thing.

I like it Gaiist lol.....Have you done any direct work on your theory? Or have access to that kind of equipment?

 

[WHODAT@THADOR]

I kinda like to follow ION's they due some really good experiments like measuring the human soul for example...

 

[canndo]

now consider that without a doubt, p. Cubensis is the single most sucessful higher fungus in nature. It managed to leave its natural habitat. It disperses its spores by truck and jet to every part of the world where it grows in basements and spare rooms in order to spread itself even further. It is nearly as sucessful as dogs or cats and yet has not submitted itself to domestication

 

[canndo]

I like it Gaiist lol.....Have you done any direct work on your theory? Or have access to that kind of equipment?

which theory? Gaia? That is not mine.

 

[canndo]

True,this is why I don't like to read trip reports, but I think after a good amount of use your gonna get to the raw nature of the chemical all bullshit aside...

if you do enough exploring you will indeed come across the personality if the chemical as opposed to the personalities of the others. There are artifacts, commonalities, each chemical has differences from others and similarities with itself. Dies that make sense?