Should the US support Israel forever ?

Should the US support Israel, no matter what?


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Jimdamick

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You feel sorry? You do not, Freud. You negated your intent with passive aggressive antisemitism.

- and that is a shame. Makes you wonder why though doesn't it?
- Maybe if the Jewish people didn't isolate themselves so much, which they always seem to do....
- there wouldn't be any excuse for anti Semitism.

Nice going HAMAS. That is the dogma of the Catholic Church. Irishman, you know it well.

Hey, HAMAS, just because a document calls the area, Palestine is nothing but politics. It doesn't make the people there, suddenly a Nation. It is just a modern version of Syria-Palistina. That is what the Romans called it.

ISIL calls the entire thing the Levant. So what?

You are an apologist for Islamist and will even deny that, as does HAMAS.

There is no such thing as a Palestinian. There has never been a nation of Palestine. This is a fight between Nation of Law against Sunni Jihad. We are also at war with Sunni Jihad and have been since the beginning of the USA. It why we we have a Navy.

It is why we have "Mission Accomplished" as a Navy Tradition.




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As you accuse a lot of people being, I almost called you a fucking idiot because you get so caught up with the refusal that there is anything Palestinian, be it an area, or a people. LOOK IN THE DICTIONARY. It's listed , right, so therefore it exists. Or do you refute that. Oh, is my nom de guerre now Hamas? Cool.
 

panhead

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A question for ALL sides of this arguement .

Does anybody here honestly think if the USA were to exclude itself from ALL middle eastern affairs that the area would become stable , settle all issues & disputes , and lastly not export violence worldwide ?
 

Doer

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As you accuse a lot of people being, I almost called you a fucking idiot because you get so caught up with the refusal that there is anything Palestinian, be it an area, or a people. LOOK IN THE DICTIONARY. It's listed , right, so therefore it exists. Or do you refute that. Oh, is my nom de guerre now Hamas? Cool.
In the dictionary?

That's your reference?
 

NLXSK1

Well-Known Member
As you accuse a lot of people being, I almost called you a fucking idiot because you get so caught up with the refusal that there is anything Palestinian, be it an area, or a people. LOOK IN THE DICTIONARY. It's listed , right, so therefore it exists. Or do you refute that. Oh, is my nom de guerre now Hamas? Cool.
Santa Claus is in the dictionary too. I KNEW HE WAS REAL!!!
 

Doer

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They can call themselves skin heads or rag heads

It doesn't matter

Israel says today they will wipe out HAMAS and free the war slaves

That means you apologists for HAMAS will be free as well

Rejoice
 

socalcoolmx

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Inserting Israel into the middle east at least 90 % of all middle eastern problems
No 911
No Iraq war
No Afghan war
No Syria civil war
and the list goes on and on and on

and the US tax dollar go on and on and on
 

Jimdamick

Well-Known Member
A question for ALL sides of this arguement .

Does anybody here honestly think if the USA were to exclude itself from ALL middle eastern affairs that the area would become stable , settle all issues & disputes , and lastly not export violence worldwide ?
I just think that if the US wasn't so obviously one sided, in the respect of our treatment of Israeli transgressions, such as the murdering those people on that Turkish ship that was sailing to Gaza last year to protest the embargo of Gaza, then maybe we wouldn't be such a high value target for Islamic extremists.
 

Jimdamick

Well-Known Member
They can call themselves skin heads or rag heads

It doesn't matter

Israel says today they will wipe out HAMAS and free the war slaves

That means you apologists for HAMAS will be free as well

Rejoice
War slaves? Like the father who just buried his son yesterday, and said that he was proud that he died defending Gaza? To this day, the overwhelming majority of the population that elected Hamas still support them, because Israel treats them worse. The embargo that has been going on for 7 years has driven them to desperation. Don't you fucking get it!
 

Doer

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Yes
There are not any in Gaza that are not war slaves of HAMAS

They are forced in this
While you apologize and blame Israel
 

Doer

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Yeah you are
You gave excuse for the tunnels just yesterday

You make the only legitimate entity the daemon not the slave holders
 

MiG pilot

Well-Known Member
A question for ALL sides of this arguement .

Does anybody here honestly think if the USA were to exclude itself from ALL middle eastern affairs that the area would become stable , settle all issues & disputes , and lastly not export violence worldwide ?
I honestly think that at least there would be no ISIS
 

Jimdamick

Well-Known Member
They can call themselves skin heads or rag heads

It doesn't matter

Israel says today they will wipe out HAMAS and free the war slaves

That means you apologists for HAMAS will be free as well

Rejoice
Where do you live , if you don't mind me asking? I live in CT, USA. I am a former Catholic, but after 12 years of Catholic school, am now an atheist. You seem to live in Israel. I just was wondering because you seem very adamant as to the correct path to peace is the annihilation of those pesky, supposed Palestinians. Oh, I forgot, there is no such people, right. I sort could understand your logic, if I was bigoted against Muslims, which seems to be a driving force in your life. They all suck, and the world would be better off without them. Tough shit, they are here to stay, so we better learn to play nice. They are a temperamental race when they are fucked with, pretty much like a Jew. Do you have any Muslim friends? I do, and I really don't like him as much as I do Saul, who happens to be Jewish. Maybe you should go visit a nice Moroccan or Lebanese restaurant to get associated with some Muslims. You don't seem to know any nice ones.
 

Dr Kynes

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Breaches of Geneva conventions

Geneva Conventions IV, Article 49(6) (1949)
http://www.icrc.org/ihl/WebART/380-600056
so where are the forced evacuations?
and when id the fighting stop, to allow these imaginary evacuees to return to their homes?

Geneva Convention IV, Articles 45, 46 & 49 (1949)
same shit as above.
only through the mental gymnastics of the pallies and their mouthpieces can you assert israel has broken this convention.
Geneva Conventions IV, Article 33 (1949); Geneva Conventions (Protocol I), Article 75(2d) (1977)
http://www.icrc.org/ihl/com/380-600038
where is the "collective penalty"?
has israel rounded up and executed random pallies for fatah hezzbollah and hamas' actions?
youre retarded.

- U.N. Charter, Article 2(4) & 51 (1945) Declaration on Principles of International Law Concerning Friendly Relations Principle 1
http://www.un.org/en/documents/charter/chapter7.shtml
this one demonstrrates israel's RIGHT to defend itself against attacks.
youre an idiot.

http://www.un-documents.net/a25r2625.htm
funny how this is also irrelevant, and it's also not "international law" it is the rules of the UN secretariat, which is TOOTHLESS.


- U.N. Charter, Article 1 (1945) Declaration on Principles of International Law Concerning Friendly Relations, Principle 5
more repetition of worthless "declarations of principles"

- International Convention on the Suppression and Punishment of the Crime of Apartheid (1976)
http://legal.un.org/avl/ha/cspca/cspca.html
this has nothing to do with israel's occupation.
that aint aparthied, no matter how desperately you wish it was.

- Hague Regulations IV, Article 43 (1907).
http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/hague04.asp#art43
yep, another failure.
israel has done extraordinary measures to try and prevent the pallies from killing each other and israelis, and they have done it gently, even allowing fatah and hezzbollah to create their own governments with their own armed troops

whenever the pallies get up to shenanigans, the lefties cry and wail over the entirely justified, and expected israeli response, because youre all fools.

if the pallies put down their rockets and stopped trying to push israel into the sea they could have their own homeland tomorrow

they could have had it many times in the past, but they want ALL of it, and that aint gonna happen.
 

Doer

Well-Known Member
Inserting Israel into the middle east at least 90 % of all middle eastern problems
No 911
No Iraq war
No Afghan war
No Syria civil war
and the list goes on and on and on

and the US tax dollar go on and on and on
We didn't insert anyone. That was the Brits mis-handling the Syrian mandate. The State of Israel was born of the gun.

We didn't set it up. Another big lie.
 

Dr Kynes

Well-Known Member
A) As Israel is a signatory the rules apply. I cannot make this any clearer. This is not even a point of contention.

B) HAMAS are adherents to militant Shia Islam, not Sunni islam (another doerism)
hamas is sunni you fool.

hezzbollah is shiite.

you demonstrate your ignorance proudly with every post.
 
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