Is America's 54% Support of Legalized Marijuana a Lie?

gabechihua

gabechihua

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Just curious how people feel about this number that is always fed to us by the mass media. I question the legitimacy of the number for one main reason. I've read several articles on the subject over the last few years and on more than one occasion there have been surveys at the bottom of these articles that ask if you support legalized marijuana. Now you would think the survey results would be close to that 54% number we're always fed, but on more than one occasion the survey results showed approval actually hovering in the high 90's. Some may argue, well it has to do with the type of people that would be reading that article they would probably all be stoners eager for legalization. That argument might make sense, but I've also seen articles with identical subject matter that had reader surveys with results that matched that 54% approval mark. It leads me to believe that these pole numbers are being manipulated by people in control of mass media to match a hidden agenda. I know some may think that a conspiracy to manipulate popular opinion is a stretch, while others will think it's just another day in mind controlled America. Anyway, tell me how you feel about this number that is fed to us. Is it a lie or is it the truth? Here is a link to a recent US News and World Report article with a survey that shows reader approval hovering at around the 97% mark to help you decide whether there is manipulation at play.

http://www.usnews.com/opinion/articles/2014/07/28/is-the-new-york-times-editorial-board-right-about-legalizing-pot
 
gabechihua

gabechihua

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Looks like Bill O' had a survey blow up in his face when he posed the question on his website, 89% of respondents favored legalization. If Bill O'Reilly's website that is mostly frequented by right wing fanatics gets survey results like this you know the poll numbers are being fixed. The news site that reported this story however states that online polls are notoriously unreliable, and suggests that polls by Gallup and Pew are much more reliable. :roll: Polls by Gallup and Pew are always suspect in my book, it's extremely easy for them to fake their numbers. The fact that Gallup and Pew are mass medias' two big standbys for poll numbers make them even more suspect. Of course websites with live polls can easily fake their numbers too, but when poll numbers like these keep coming in from websites like billoreilly.com and us news and world report who have absolutely nothing to gain by making legalization look more popular and are actually against legalization it starts to make it obvious that Gallup and Pew are the ones who are notoriously unreliable.

http://theweek.com/article/index/265651/speedreads-bill-oreilly-took-a-poll-on-legalizing-weed-youll-never-guess-what-happened-next
 
Dat Dank

Dat Dank

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Bill O'Reilley is a right wing hack who is paid large sums of money to perpetuate his fascist agenda. I won't trust Faux News polls like I wouldn't trust a guy selling Rolex's on a street corner.The biased and conceited nature of Faux News never fails to baffle me. Even when the man is hit with FACTS from his own poll...he still acts like a majority of Americans don't want it legalized. I'm surprised he's even still on air. Faux is the reason I don't watch T.V anymore.
 
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Wilksey

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Polls are bullshit designed to sway the opinions of idiots that don't realize that polls are bullshit.

Bill O'Reilley is a right wing hack who is paid large sums of money to perpetuate his fascist agenda. I won't trust Faux News polls like I wouldn't trust a guy selling Rolex's on a street corner.The biased and conceited nature of Faux News never fails to baffle me. Even when the man is hit with FACTS from his own poll...he still acts like a majority of Americans don't want it legalized. I'm surprised he's even still on air. Faux is the reason I don't watch T.V anymore.
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NBC, ABC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, FOX, they're ALL hacks paid to shill propaganda. EVERY LAST ONE.

Too many people associate "freedom of the press" with integrity, when all it means is "free to publish bullshit".
 
Red1966

Red1966

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Dat Dank said:
Bill O'Reilley is a right wing hack who is paid large sums of money to perpetuate his fascist agenda. I won't trust Faux News polls like I wouldn't trust a guy selling Rolex's on a street corner.The biased and conceited nature of Faux News never fails to baffle me. Even when the man is hit with FACTS from his own poll...he still acts like a majority of Americans don't want it legalized. I'm surprised he's even still on air. Faux is the reason I don't watch T.V anymore.
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O'Reilley is hardly fascist. He is paid well because he is popular and draws lots of advertising dollars. He is the most popular cable news/opinion show on. You don't "trust" Fox news because they tell you things you don't want to hear. But not watching TV at all probably will make you smarter.
 
Red1966

Red1966

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I forgot the name, but it wasn't you. The mods seem to have deleted all his multiple threads. One of his posts directly preceded mine, but is gone now. I suspect he was banned as well.
 
gabechihua

gabechihua

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Red1966 said:
You don't "trust" Fox news because they tell you things you don't want to hear.
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The reason people don't trust Faux News is because everyone knows it's non-stop right wing spin. I don't consider it a news channel, I just consider it right wing entertainment for those who like to feed their faces full off right wing spin.
 
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Wilksey

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gabechihua said:
The reason people don't trust Faux News is because everyone knows it's non-stop right wing spin. I don't consider it a news channel, I just consider it right wing entertainment for those who like to feed their faces full off right wing spin.
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What do you call CNN, MSNBC, NBC, CBS, the BBC, Al Jazeera, and pretty much every other "news" agency out there?

Are THEY actually "fair and unbiased"?

FUCK NO!!!

They're pitching the same BULLSHIT FOX is, but for THEIR agenda.

THEY'RE ALL SCHILLS. PERIOD.
 
gabechihua

gabechihua

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Wilksey said:
What do you call CNN, MSNBC, NBC, CBS, the BBC, Al Jazeera, and pretty much every other "news" agency out there?

Are THEY actually "fair and unbiased"?

FUCK NO!!!

They're pitching the same BULLSHIT FOX is, but for THEIR agenda.

THEY'RE ALL SCHILLS. PERIOD.
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Did I say I watch any of that crap? I find politics incredibly boring, I stopped paying attention to the dog and pony show about seven years ago. However I do find it incredibly annoying when Fox constantly beats you over the head with their lame ass "fair and balanced" slogan. All those channels are seriously boring to watch, but I do find Fox's style to be quite a bit more nauseating than the rest. I think Michael Stipe said it best when he said, "I'm not a fan of their puff adder style of journalism".
 
Red1966

Red1966

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gabechihua said:
Did I say I watch any of that crap? I find politics incredibly boring, I stopped paying attention to the dog and pony show about seven years ago. However I do find it incredibly annoying when Fox constantly beats you over the head with their lame ass "fair and balanced" slogan. All those channels are seriously boring to watch, but I do find Fox's style to be quite a bit more nauseating than the rest. I think Michael Stipe said it best when he said, "I'm not a fan of their puff adder style of journalism".
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If you haven't watched it in seven years and still complain about it, it must have incredibly annoying. Apparently, there there is something more to it than it being merely annoying. Or you're not being honest with yourself.
 
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Wilksey

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gabechihua said:
... but I do find Fox's style to be quite a bit more nauseating than the rest.
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Biased liberal douchebags usually do.

Not saying that YOU are a biased liberal douchebag, of course, just that biased liberal douchebags are usually the ones calling out FOX due to the fact that they lack the integrity, or intelligence, to see and call out the liberal bias in every other source of media. Biased liberal douchebags don't care about bias as long as it's THEIR bias.
 
gabechihua

gabechihua

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Wilksey said:
Biased liberal douchebags usually do.

Not saying that YOU are a biased liberal douchebag, of course, just that biased liberal douchebags are usually the ones calling out FOX due to the fact that they lack the integrity, or intelligence, to see and call out the liberal bias in every other source of media. Biased liberal douchebags don't care about bias as long as it's THEIR bias.
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Dude quit trying to finger me for being a liberal just because I don't like Fox's style. I'm not a political person and I don't associate with any political party. I'm guessing this is a touchy subject, it usually is for conservative right wing douchebags. :roll:
 
gabechihua

gabechihua

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Btw no reason to call dude a fucking retard because he doesn't agree with you. Sounds like some Fox shit :cool:
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I didn't call him a retard because he didn't agree with me. I called him a retard because he came on my thread and called me a douchebag and a fucking moron.
 
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