Why do you think people deny science?

UncleBuck

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ALL the models were wrong... all the predictions said it would be much warmer today than it actually is. So the theory behind the predictions was contraindicated by the facts.
you are a bonafide retard.







stick to what you're good at, red: $10 blowjobs and burning your family alive.
 

UncleBuck

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when oh when keynes are you going to eductate yourself about co2 cycles keynes?

seriously what sort of dribbling idiot repeatedly compares termite part in the co2 cycle to humans digging up fossil carbon?

this isnt the first time your idiocy has been pointed out
ask him to do an exponent and watch how hilarious things get.

he will literally attempt to turn being wrong into a virtue.
 

UncleBuck

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Yes, anyone who doesn't follow your pseudo-science must be part of some vast right wing conspiracy.
it's no conspiracy, some organizations pay retards like you $0.07 a post to chime in with this garbage that has no basis in reality.

how about those predictions and models, herr red? still wrong?
 

Doer

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The Debate is over. There is plenty enough direct observation.

We should be cooling slightly year over year, but we are warming slightly year over year.

Slightly + Slightly = Yikes!

When the system snaps which way will it go, we don't really know. But, it must snap at some point. The Orbit of the Earth is quite well mapped now. We have satellites ahead, astern and sunward of our Orbit.

We can see we are moving into a 10,000 year period where it will be Icy. But, we are warming.

Dicey.
 

UncleBuck

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The Debate is over. There is plenty enough direct observation.

We should be cooling slightly year over year, but we are warming slightly year over year.

Slightly + Slightly = Yikes!

When the system snaps which way will it go, we don't really know. But, it must snap at some point. The Orbit of the Earth is quite well mapped now. We have satellites ahead, astern and sunward of our Orbit.

We can see we are moving into a 10,000 year period where it will be Icy. But, we are warming.

Dicey.
probably because termites have just been fucking like crazy ever since the advent of the industrial revolution.
 

Dr Kynes

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The Debate is over. There is plenty enough direct observation.

We should be cooling slightly year over year, but we are warming slightly year over year.

Slightly + Slightly = Yikes!

When the system snaps which way will it go, we don't really know. But, it must snap at some point. The Orbit of the Earth is quite well mapped now. We have satellites ahead, astern and sunward of our Orbit.

We can see we are moving into a 10,000 year period where it will be Icy. But, we are warming.

Dicey.
new research shows the sun has been increasing it's radiation for at least the last 200 years, outside the predictions of the Maunder cycle

there may be an undiscovered solar cycle at play

the milenkovich predictions expect continued warming for another 200 years before the cooling trend begins

the past glacial cycles indicate another 2000 years or so of warming before the temps start dropping.

we are still in a glacial age, since the cut-off point for the end of a glaciation is the total melting of the polar ice caps, so the holocene is actually not yet an Inter-glacial

when the polar ice caps have fully melted, thats the sign that we have reached an interglacial maximum, and the current 80,000 year cooling cycle can be declared to have reached it's peak, unless this almost-but-not-quite-yet interglacial period stays a little cooler than the last 12

i anticipate extended warming for some time before the worm turns and the next glaciation starts, returning us to the Normal and natural" state of the earth, a snowball.

natural processes are still not sufficiently understood to allow for predictions or prognostications, we only have theories based on past performance, and past performance doesnt always predict future events.
 

Padawanbater2

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new research shows the sun has been increasing it's radiation for at least the last 200 years, outside the predictions of the Maunder cycle

there may be an undiscovered solar cycle at play

the milenkovich predictions expect continued warming for another 200 years before the cooling trend begins

the past glacial cycles indicate another 2000 years or so of warming before the temps start dropping.

we are still in a glacial age, since the cut-off point for the end of a glaciation is the total melting of the polar ice caps, so the holocene is actually not yet an Inter-glacial

when the polar ice caps have fully melted, thats the sign that we have reached an interglacial maximum, and the current 80,000 year cooling cycle can be declared to have reached it's peak, unless this almost-but-not-quite-yet interglacial period stays a little cooler than the last 12

i anticipate extended warming for some time before the worm turns and the next glaciation starts, returning us to the Normal and natural" state of the earth, a snowball.

natural processes are still not sufficiently understood to allow for predictions or prognostications, we only have theories based on past performance, and past performance doesnt always predict future events.
There is no science that supports this. Meanwhile, all the science on Earth supports anthropogenic climate change.

You are a retard.
 

Doer

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Pad, there is big science to support that. You might want to get real.

The problem is that with all things considered... ALL things, we should not be warming.

Regardless of the Sun heating in the Main Sequence (always a bit hotter, year over year), we should be cooling. We are not.
 

Doer

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Kynes. No. The point is we have to deal with it. We are humans. And the backing is to do something. We have these multi-geneational govt structures to do something to try to preserve human DNA.

Some you would detest on the opposite side from you, the Gaia types agree with you.

They think we should do nothing, and sit here and die for the good of the Universe.

Strange bedfellows for you.
 
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Dr Kynes

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There is no science that supports this. Meanwhile, all the science on Earth supports anthropogenic climate change.

You are a retard.
i have already posted the maunder projections, the milencovick projections, and the scholarly works demonstrating that the sun's radiation has been increasing outside the maunder cycle's established pattern (more heat, even when sunspot activity is low) and many various estimates of the projected time remaining in the holocene epoch (from -200 years to another 20,000 years depending who you ask)

that you didnt bother to read that shit doesnt change the facts, or negate the existence of this research.
 

Dr Kynes

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Kynes. No. The point is we have to deal with it. We are humans. And the backing is to do something. We have these multi-geneational govt structures to do something to try to preserve human DNA.

Some you would detest on the opposite side from you, the Gaia types agree with you.

They think we should do nothing, and sit here and die for the good of the Universe.

Strange bedfellows for you.
nope.

you mistake me, assuming my position is the same as the straweman created by bucklefuckle ginchy and pada.

my actual position: MORE SCIENCE, less fearmongering.

carbon taxes, the war on coal, the war on civilization, the war on agriculture, the terrified squawking of the press and political classes, and the mindless jingoism of the eco-loons is counter-productive.

whenn SCIENCE has made a determination, without the political wrangling, the hooting and doomsaying of the chicken littles in the press, and without the attempts to defame every scienctist, research paper or study that comes to a different conclusion on the idiot left's name and shame blogs, THEN we can decide how to proceed, not before.

IPCC report 5 is characterized by backpedaling, reducing their doomsday predictions to vague warnings couched in careful language, and a general reduction in the "anthropogenicness" of the observed warming.

looks like science may be winning the PR war, so lets see.

i disagree with your assessment that "we should be cooling" since we are still on the warming slope of the milencovick cycle, the sun is still increasing it's radiation, and the next ice age hasnt begun cuz the last one isnt officially finished yet.

once the polar icecaps are FULLY MELTED, we should expect another 1-3 thousand years of generally warm temps, then the temps will start dropping for 20-30 thousand years till it hits rock bottom, and starts slowly warming again.

but thats based on the past 12 glacial cycles, and past performance doesnt always predict the future.

the claim that we "should be cooling" despite increasing solar radiation, the current position in the maunder precession, and the expectations based on the previous glacial cycles is unsupported.
 

Doer

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We simple wait to tell everyone? Is that it? We do nothing but wait for all the ice to melt?

You know this World will take generations of breakdown of all kinds of coastal superstitions, apparitions, institutions, resolutions and WAR, to even prepare to move all the infrastructure UP 250 FEET.

It is Crime to do nothing to prepare for 100s of years, for what is surely coming, Pharaoh. We must make ready.
 

WORDZofWORDZCRAFT

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We simple wait to tell everyone? Is that it? We do nothing but wait for all the ice to melt?

You know this World will take generations of breakdown of all kinds of coastal superstitions, apparitions, institutions, resolutions and WAR, to even prepare to move all the infrastructure UP 250 FEET.

It is Crime to do nothing to prepare for 100s of years, for what is surely coming, Pharaoh. We must make ready.
i guess all the california queers are gonna wish they moved to colorado.
 
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