Heat Stress!

509Rebel

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Got a huge outdoor Kings Kross. Recently set up a Sun screen as this lady is in direct blazing sunlight. Before I got the screen up tho, this branch got severely burned. Will the plant recover from this or should I cut the branch?

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Diabolical666

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I would cut and burn that very carefully. .it could be broad mites...If the whole plant was getting hit why would only one branch be affected?
Yeah we told him that already...he wont listen. Hes trying to get his confirmation of heat stress and only the ppl that dont have a clue about broad mites say its heat stress. Heat stress dont twist only broad mites
 

TWS

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Yeah we told him that already...he wont listen. Hes trying to get his confirmation of heat stress and only the ppl that dont have a clue about broad mites say its heat stress. Heat stress dont twist only broad mites

Thanks for your post in the Op's thread the other day . I didn't know the signs of them but had heard of them recently. Im a few pages into the BM thread on ICmag.

What kills these things ?
 

509Rebel

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Thanks for the input guys. However, this is the first time I have checked back on my post and seen a reply. The reason for this one branch being so extra-mangled is that I had a low-clearance screen over the plant and that came unfastened. That branch, being the tallest at the time, was beaten in the wind by the unfastened screen and poking through the gap that was created when the screen came loose. That is the worst looking branch so I figured it would be the best to accurately portray my problem. Also, it seems like an awfully major coincidence that the affected areas are the ones that have been uncovered by screen at some point. That one branch is the only one that looks like that and it has looked like that ever since the few days it spent getting whipped by screen and exposed to the direct hot sun. I was just curious to know how much this will effect my results or if there is any measures I can take to help the plant now if it is indeed burned. Here is a picture of what most of the affected leaves look like.. Thanks for reading!

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Diabolical666

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Thanks for your post in the Op's thread the other day . I didn't know the signs of them but had heard of them recently. Im a few pages into the BM thread on ICmag.

What kills these things ?
spinosad kills em.
rebel your new picture shows more broad mite damage, its getting worse. If you dont take the advice it will spread. I believe moths carry quite a bit of various micro mites. I believe a moth brought rust mites into my indoor grow last year. It only makes sense....
 

509Rebel

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Yeah we told him that already...he wont listen. Hes trying to get his confirmation of heat stress and only the ppl that dont have a clue about broad mites say its heat stress. Heat stress dont twist only broad mites
So, given the additional info, are you still certain it's broad mites? Thanks for the advice!

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playallnite

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I think you have Hemp Mosaic Virus ( leaves curling inward) I had it for 2 seasons til I replenished my soil this year peacock shit compost. It will not effect yield or potency.
 

FLkeys1

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http://pogenetics.com/?page_id=389 these people say you can email them a photo and they will tell you if it is broad mites.

I know about spider mites but I don't know enough about broad mites. Do broad mites NOT leave the normal white areas on the leaves where they have sucked the juices out of the plant??
 
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Diabolical666

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http://pogenetics.com/?page_id=389 these people say you can email them a photo and they will tell you if it is broad mites.

I know about spider mites but I don't know enough about broad mites. Do broad mites NOT leave the normal white areas on the leaves where they have sucked the juices out of the plant??
They can do both : make the leaves curl up like tacos and spiral the leaves or mozaic leaves. I have had both responses
 

509Rebel

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I think you have Hemp Mosaic Virus ( leaves curling inward) I had it for 2 seasons til I replenished my soil this year peacock shit compost. It will not effect yield or potency.
http://pogenetics.com/?page_id=389 these people say you can email them a photo and they will tell you if it is broad mites.

I know about spider mites but I don't know enough about broad mites. Do broad mites NOT leave the normal white areas on the leaves where they have sucked the juices out of the plant??
Thanks for the advice guys. In a previous post I pointed out that this branch was the tallest when I had a different configuration of my Sun screen, which failed and partially fell onto the plant. This happened several times before I rebuilt my screen and that plant was always left poking out through the seem when the screen fell, so it was broken, likely sunburned, and repeatedly subject to the screen whipping it as it flapped loose in the wind. I'm not denying that it could be something other than heat stress, it's just that it seems to be a rather open and shut case of it as any affected areas of the plant are areas that were exposed to burning direct Sun as I observed and improved my Sun screen. I now have the plant sufficiently shaded and expect to see no progression of these symptoms. The twisting pictured is isolated to that one branch and at the top, where it was whipped and exposed. I will wait and see, and per diabolical's recommendation, I have carefully removed the branch and deposited it in the dumpster. Again, thanks for reading and I sincerely appreciate and respect any feedback.


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509Rebel

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Just checked out the page that FLkeys recommended, according to the listed symptoms, the only ones my plant has is the curling leaves, and the twisted leaves on the one branch in the center of the plant which I know was repeatedly rubbed and whipped by a failed screen and was the only fully exposed portion of the plant at the Times the screen did fail...

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BuzzD2Kill

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Ive seen that a couple times, if it isnt bugs, which I dont see any spots, it started at the roots, to much water, or bad water. Ive seen it in potted plants several times, IMO my experience was the soil in the pots getting to hot, which causes all kinds of problems. GL
 

509Rebel

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Aha! I increased watering one of the first times the screen failed. I read that giving the plant *plenty of water ensures it can most efficiently deal with heat. It has been a LOT more water than I am comfortable giving a plant, having dealt w overwatering and under-draining and the root rot that ensued back when I was just starting out indoors, but the plant seemed to perk up when I increased watering...
But I have been giving it a SHITLOAD of water so if this looks like a symptom of overwatering to you, that is a possibility of which I see direct evidence. Gonna cut down watering while I observe, now that my screen is sufficient and secure. I'll let u know how it's lookin here in a week. Thanks a lot and to all who replied. It is respected!

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509Rebel

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Also, started to notice a shocking amount of yellow leaves on the interior and underside.. this had me starting to think of possible nute deficiency or maaaybe overwatering.. lol turning off the hose NOW

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mr sunshine

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Really looks like broad mites u will know it's them when they fuck up all the tips of your shoots... 'and your bud looks like brocoli!! With no thc! My plants are in direct sunlight and when they get thirsty they wilt after I water them they look normal...yours look like broad mites are living in your plant!!get a magnifying glass and look for them they look like lice!!
 

509Rebel

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Really looks like broad mites u will know it's them when they fuck up all the tips of your shoots... 'and your bud looks like brocoli!! With no thc! My plants are in direct sunlight and when they get thirsty they wilt after I water them they look normal...yours look like broad mites are living in your plant!!get a magnifying glass and look for them they look like lice!!
Thanks for the heads up about broad mites, I had never heard of them. Although I have no interest in entering a debate, especially given that I am quite new to growing and have relatively little experience with it. So I have no intention of being a know-it-all or ignoring input from anyone, but I can't help but question the certainty you seem to have in your diagnosis when shown such little evidence and in all fairness you had me confused with someone else from the start. U claimed I already posted about this and got my answer but I think my profile shows that I just joined that day, in case proof is necessary that I am not the person you claimed already asked about this and was given an answer.

That being said, I must express that I am 100% open to the possibility that I am wrong about my assumption of heat stress. If you could please name the factors you see that make you certain it is definitely broad mites and definitely not heat stress, then I may understand the validity of your diagnosis, not that it should matter to u whether I take it advice.
I just thought explaining my position here would be helpful, I've referred to these boards many a time and see a lot of ego in threads. So I want to be absolutely clear there's none of that comin from me. I'll tell everyone right now, I BASICALLY DONT KNOW SHIT. No shame in my game I'm tryin to get good that's why I'm here.

Thanks again for takin the time to try n teach me somethin, it is appreciated.

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mr sunshine

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Thanks for the heads up about broad mites, I had never heard of them. Although I have no interest in entering a debate, especially given that I am quite new to growing and have relatively little experience with it. So I have no intention of being a know-it-all or ignoring input from anyone, but I can't help but question the certainty you seem to have in your diagnosis when shown such little evidence and in all fairness you had me confused with someone else from the start. U claimed I already posted about this and got my answer but I think my profile shows that I just joined that day, in case proof is necessary that I am not the person you claimed already asked about this and was given an answer.

That being said, I must express that I am 100% open to the possibility that I am wrong about my assumption of heat stress. If you could please name the factors you see that make you certain it is definitely broad mites and definitely not heat stress, then I may understand the validity of your diagnosis, not that it should matter to u whether I take it advice.
I just thought explaining my position here would be helpful, I've referred to these boards many a time and see a lot of ego in threads. So I want to be absolutely clear there's none of that comin from me. I'll tell everyone right now, I BASICALLY DONT KNOW SHIT. No shame in my game I'm tryin to get good that's why I'm here.

Thanks again for takin the time to try n teach me somethin, it is appreciated.

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I think you have me confused with someone else.. I've never told you you have broad mites until you made this thread. ..but I hope you don't have them they are the worst makes you want spidermites instead. ...I've seen heat damage and that's not what it looks like your plant is twisting it's not burned. ..and something whipping it over and over will not make it twist imo...The rest of your plant is fine it's only one area that's affected that's another sign that it's not heat stress!! The evidence is all around you u just don't know what to look for... they are tiny you may or may not be able to see them with your naked eye...again I hope you don't have them I got them last year completely ruined 5 huge plants I got 3 good nuggets the rest was twisty garbage lettuce looking bud...I also figured it was heat stress... even tho none of my other plants looked like that and we're getting hit just as hard... I went to my local hydro shop asked some dude and he told me it was broad mites said they hit cali hard this year and nothing kills them because they burrow into the plant so you can never really get them all ...sm 90 during flower is your friend use it if it is broad mites!!use a magnifying glass and inspect your plant..
 
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TWS

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These things scare the shit out of me ! I don't think spinosad will kill them. It doesn't even list them as a pest. The IC mag seems to suggest only Avid and Forbid, no pest strips and heat dunks, and you better not get them in flower. Predator mites might help you then.
 
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