theexpress
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atleast 1 of those 24 dicks had some kind of std..
How can she be both?I mentioned her karma shes in that position(s), lol...I believe she was taken advantage of too, but also a slut.
I hope you don't take this the wrong way Gonzo, but I respectfully disagree. What makes a girl a "slut" then? One's actions usually determine their character.And what does that make the guys who were involved in this then? Top boys or proper bros or something?
Your outlook on sexuality and females is fucked. The girl isn't a slut and doesn't deserve your misplaced judgment.
Both, taken advantage because she was fed so many drinks to the point where she had no judgement, and then the dudes lined up to stick their dicks in her face,How can she be both?
I mentioned her karma shes in that position(s), lol...I believe she was taken advantage of too, but also a slut.
Certainly not taken the wrong way. Differing opinions are always welcome if they come from a good place. I think ultimately I get that the girl was and is responsible for her own actions. Just irks that she is being shamed for it.How can she be both?
I hope you don't take this the wrong way Gonzo, but I respectfully disagree. What makes a girl a "slut" then? One's actions usually determine their character.
Now this could've been a one time thing with her and not handling her alcohol properly she made a huge error in judgement. But I believe it is only we who are ultimately responsible for our actions. Were the bar owners shitty for continually serving a drunk girl? Yes. Were the guys sleazy for allowing her to blow them knowing she was drunk? Yes.
But if she acted out of her own will, the she owns that action and all the implications that come with it. And the low lifes that took advantage of her clearly poor judgement (if it was indeed obvious she was wasted) then they have to live with themselves, and look their own wives/daughters in the eye one day knowing their stupid actions.
Growing up Girl 101: NEVER drink so much in public you lose control of yourself or your surroundings. Guys are heroes for this but girls end up being called sluts.
I bet if you change the outcome of her drunkenness a little, you would agree the bar does share some of the fault.yeah, its the bar owners fault, because she kept dumping her own drinks down her own throat, ha but who has ever heard of personal responsibility....isnt that what you old farts used to teach kids in the old days?
she was only taken advantage of at the point where dudes started lining up to get their dicks sucked on camera in public by a slut who happened to be drunk....I bet if you change the outcome of her drunkenness a little, you would agree the bar does share some of the fault.
You missed my point. You were of the opinion that because "she kept dumping drinks down her throat" it was not the bar's fault - rather, her personal responsibility.she was only taken advantage of at the point where dudes started lining up to get their dicks sucked on camera in public by a slut who happened to be drunk....
Now we are living in shoulda, coulda, woulda land....You missed my point. You were of the opinion that because "she kept dumping drinks down her throat" it was not the bar's fault - rather, her personal responsibility.
Change the outcome of that same scenario where a young girl, probably 120 pounds, is being served at a bar. The bar serves her drink after drink for several hours. She is noticeably drunk and most likely blacked out. Any reasonable sober bar tender would know how much she has had to drink, and know she is past the point of no return. And, like here, there is video evidence and witnesses to how much she has had to drink and how drunk she is.
Now, instead of dicks in her mouth, she leaves and gets in her car. She plows into you and your family. Two of your family members are killed, and you are left a quadraplegic. You will need 24/7 medical services for the rest of your life. It will cost millions.
The girl's vehicle insurance carrier immediately pays you the policy limit: $30,000. That doesn't cover the 1st week of hospital bills. The girl has no other assets to her name.
Your other option is to argue the bar is at fault for knowingly and repeatedly serving an intoxicated young girl. The bar has a commercial insurance policy of $5,000,000. It is illegal for the bar to knowingly and repeatedly serve someone who is intoxicated. They are clearly liable under the law and pursuant to their policy of insurance.
You wouldn't argue that the bar owner is at fault, but stick to your guns and say it was simply a matter of the girls personal responsibility?
That was my point.
You're arguing a point that is just wrong. Morally, legally and just plain fucked up tbh.Now we are living in shoulda, coulda, woulda land....
maybe the the bartender served her too many drinks, and she leaves the bar and staggers into the street and a cab just misses her. The cabby jumps out of the car pissed and concerned that some drunk chick juts walked out into the street. I mean fuck, hes got 5 kids and a wife at home and his meager wages from cabbing are the only income they have. So he gets the girl off the street, and even feels for her so he decides to give her a ride home which is just down the block the other direction he was, but its only like 10 minutes out of his way, no bid deal. So he goes and takes her home. As soon as he gets her into her apartment the ground violently shakes and rumbles as a huge earthquake rolls through. The cabby is shaken and is returned to reality by the sound of his CB squawking at him for his location in the car. Its his boss, frantically wondering where he is because the call he had sent him just 20 mins ago would've taken him over that bridge that collapsed, killing all passengers trapped in their cars during the collapse. He would also be among the dead, his wife husbandless, his children fatherless, and all of them without any income to pay the bills. The mother would've taken three jobs to support the kids who would no longer have any parental guidance and would all eventually turn to lives of crime and drugs. But, thankfully, they kept serving that girls drinks, and while she may have had some random sexual encounters that evening a wife still has a husband and 5 children will now go on to college to pursue the dreams the father never could. One will work for NASA and design the propulsion system that saves humanity from the wreck Earth becomes, another cures Cancer, and the rest go on to do equally great things, but only because they all live in the land of the hypothetical, where anyone can make shit up!
What I get from it is an overwhelming sense of loathing for people that excuse the actions of a person! And then I get disgusted when people make up hypothetical situations to try and prove a point that is irrelevant.Honestly, what you getting outa this?
Well your doing this whole life thing wrong then. Have you lived a life without fault? No ones ever excused your behaviour then?What I get from it is an overwhelming sense of loathing for people that excuse the actions of a person!
Wow. You are right. In the scenario I outlined, with the identical girl drinking the identical amount of booze in the same bar -- only changing the outcome, you wouldn't go after the bar. You've just demonstrated that not everyone thinks the same way. You're a man of principle and feel that no matter what, the bar is never liable. That's cool.Now we are living in shoulda, coulda, woulda land....
Buddy I've made more mistakes than most, bad ones, but you know who I don't blame for them, anybody else.Well your doing this whole life thing wrong then. Have you lived a life without fault? No ones ever excused your behaviour then?
Just seems like your a cunt that's yet to realize it.
I'm a man who takes sole responsibility for his actions, and I expect the same from everyone else, kinda crazy, I know, but what are you going to do.Wow. You are right. In the scenario I outlined, with the identical girl drinking the identical amount of booze in the same bar -- only changing the outcome, you wouldn't go after the bar. You've just demonstrated that not everyone thinks the same way. You're a man of principle and feel that no matter what, the bar is never liable. That's cool.
ive never sukked 2 dozen dicks for a drinkWell your doing this whole life thing wrong then. Have you lived a life without fault? No ones ever excused your behaviour then?
Just seems like your a cunt that's yet to realize it.