Testing InnoLed's 120w horticultural led fixture= Let there be warm white/ high cri light!:)

PSUAGRO.

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No smell?

In my experience this late in flower with no smell....bad quality?

Fuck un stinky stealth strains lol
No smell when untouched.........NL strains and crosses usually carry this trait. Your not talking shit on one of the building blocks of all modern indoor cannabis strains are you? Lol

Remember they “tried" to retire NL#5 from competition due to winning everything........smell doesn't equal potency friend......but you probably knew that.......
 

foreverflyhi

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No smell when untouched.........NL strains and crosses usually carry this trait. Your not talking shit on one of the building blocks of all modern indoor cannabis strains are you? Lol

Remember they “tried" to retire NL#5 from competition due to winning everything........smell doesn't equal potency friend......but you probably knew that.......
Lol not when u saay it like that!

Love nl strains, recent one was dank!
 

PSUAGRO.

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Update time

Day 74 of 12/12 from seed under "120w" Innoled horti fixture=== with my stretchy Northenberry girls

001.JPG 002.JPG 003.JPG 004.JPG Old sparky is still working:).......Looks like I will get something out of this run. NL shining through with it's high flower to leaf ratio, even with all the issues I've had in this grow. Getting a small hint of rotting fruit in the room but still very manageable with an O3 unit next to the exhaust.

007.JPG ..........my vegan mix has finally become ineffective in supplying the necessary nutrients, it did well imo. To late to add any macro nutrients as by the time it becomes available , this grow will be over. I am gonna give them 1tbs per gallon of TJ's organic agave nectar (carbs) to help the beni bacs/microbes "squeeze" whatever is left in this mix. It's the cleanest form of sugar I have laying around ATM.

They all got a loop stake put on each main stem and I ran green velcro strip around the whole group(center stems) to keep them from leaning away from the light==== pot rotations are officially over till the end; Thank GOD!!


005.JPG 006.JPG 008.JPG ............temps are awesome here in the north east, cool actually for this time of year. My meter/power went out again due to strong storms , I probably should stop paying my PECO bills for the fucking timer hassles alone.......................... 2 weeks left and chop chop these bitches hopefully.

be safe and happy growing RIU
 
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Grnlife

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Looks good PSUAGRO! I'm sure you can't wait to sample these. What do you think of our light thus far vs the lights you've been using? Please let us know once you chop it down quality of the bud, yield, and any thing else you like to add. We appreciate your honest opinion. BTW how tall is your tallest plant 4'?
 

PSUAGRO.

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Hey PSUAGRO, any updates for us? Did you take it down yet?
Their still going:)....................breaking out the luope on sunday and will update then. Lots of shit to talk about including my "blow-up" with fucking PECO about my power loss again! hint: I lost:cuss:..... I'm shocked at this point that my girls haven't hermied TBH....

Busy; grasshoppers are making my life miserable atm..............about to call in air support, yeah that bad(10-15% loss in 2 days!)......sucks
 
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medicinehuman

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Their still going:)....................breaking out the luope on sunday and will update then. Lots of shit to talk about including my "blow-up" with fucking PECO about my power loss again! hint: I lost:cuss:..... I'm shocked at this point that my girls haven't hermied TBH....

Busy; grasshoppers are making my life miserable atm..............about to call in air support, yeah that bad(10-15% loss in 2 days!)......sucks
Hey, that's a bunch of bum shit you (and your plant's) are going through. Hope it just gets better for you.:peace:
 

PSUAGRO.

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...muchos animos Psuagro...

...grasshoppers?... wow... ...a filter on air intake? for insects maybe for other things ...polen etc...

Saludos
Sorry for the confusion friend, it's @ work NOT on my precious girls:)..............I usually have time to fuck around on my phone, but grasshoppers are voracious eaters and has everyone jittery; boss is on my ass.

Hopefully he calls in the aerial application(s) today(not my decision tbh) and it's game over for the bastards! feel sorry for the locals though, just victims of our fucked up ag practices. These things happen when dealing with $$$$$$$$$$$.............sucks

Hey, that's a bunch of bum shit you (and your plant's) are going through. Hope it just gets better for you.:peace:
Thanks brother, it's complete BS when your paying for a service and it's unreliable:cuss:
 

PSUAGRO.

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Looks good PSUAGRO! I'm sure you can't wait to sample these. What do you think of our light thus far vs the lights you've been using? Please let us know once you chop it down quality of the bud, yield, and any thing else you like to add. We appreciate your honest opinion. BTW how tall is your tallest plant 4'?
I will tell you when it's over.................:P



Update time on my 4 stretchy peak seeds northernberry girls


DAY 85 of 12/12 from seed under "120w" 3200k/98cri Innoled fixture:

001.JPG 002.JPG 003.JPG 005.JPG 006.JPG "old sparky" can put up some nice buds for this strain and it's still working!.....lol..........I know it's getting sooooo repetitive:); bear with me friends. I don't think it could have turned out any better for this particular grow given my crappy circumstances. It is what it is............excuses are like assholes=== they all stink.

004.JPG ............Decent frost and hard flowers IMO..............not bad for the wattage(?), I'm going to hook up this "outdated" fixture to the killo-watt meter at weigh time to see what it actually pulls. Almost where I like on amber%, couple of days and chop/chop.

007.JPG 008.JPG ............Power issues pissed me off and I complained to PECO==== the outcome is they upgraded the building to smart meters now!!; OHHHH great, just what I wanted...sarc.............fuckers.

YES, quality warm white leds/cobs are very capable of producing a decent indoor mj crop................still prefer some 660nm supplementation added for a further flower boost...

be safe and happy growing RIU
 

Grnlife

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Sorry to hear about all the bad vibe going your way PSUAGRO, hopefully that will change soon once you take the girls down. Nice frost btw! You said you prefer more on the 660nm, our chip specs is pretty dead on with the red that you've mention. I don't know of any COB companies out there that offer full spectrum LED on a single high powered chip like we do. I
wonder what it could have been if you didn't have any issue with the grow. :weed:Innoled spectural graph-2.jpg
 

Greengenes707

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Being such a high cri chip...when you give the red, usually a corresponding blue must be present to balance and maintain the cri. So yes there is 660...but you ratios might be a little off for plant growth. Seems to be a little heavy on the blue based on what I know to work well for flowering growth.

Personally to me...splitting it up into 2 50w cobs that spread the light would be the most beneficial thing to do. One single small point source is going to struggle with coverage no matter how good it could be on paper. Also angles of lighting are big factors...specially in lower illumination situations.
The engine is good...now design a full performance car around it.
 

Grnlife

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Well said 707, but If you look at any photosynthesis graph you will notice the blue is actually higher than the red. Yes, I do agree that maybe a little more red in the 660-670nm range would be "ideal" color for flower, but we're not that far off at all. Maybe we'll offer that for the next generation of our horticulture LED. It's an ongoing process for us to perfect our LED's. It's also very costly to do R&D and the time involved.

I've personally tested one single source led all the way up to four chips on a fixture. Yes, you may have a little better area coverage but you are loosing the punch power when you lower the wattage on the chip. It could be as much as 30% less punch depending not he chip. We're trying to perfect the ideal punch vs area coverage. What we specialized in is high powered single source full spectrum COB. We don't want our led to be like the China made chip with a bunch of 3-5w and put it in a fixture. That's why they give LED a bad name for the horticulture industry in the past. It's gotten better but they're not there yet. We're here to change that mindset, one grower at a time, one industry at a time. Slowly but surely!;)

There's a lot more exciting things to come in the near future. Just keep an eye our for us.
 

Greengenes707

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Well said 707, but If you look at any photosynthesis graph you will notice the blue is actually higher than the red. Yes, I do agree that maybe a little more red in the 660-670nm range would be "ideal" color for flower, but we're not that far off at all. Maybe we'll offer that for the next generation of our horticulture LED. It's an ongoing process for us to perfect our LED's. It's also very costly to do R&D and the time involved.
I've personally tested one single source led all the way up to four chips on a fixture. Yes, you may have a little better area coverage but you are loosing the punch power when you lower the wattage on the chip. It could be as much as 30% less punch depending not he chip. We're trying to perfect the ideal punch vs area coverage. What we specialized in is high powered single source full spectrum COB. We don't want our led to be like the China made chip with a bunch of 3-5w and put it in a fixture. That's why they give LED a bad name for the horticulture industry in the past. It's gotten better but they're not there yet. We're here to change that mindset, one grower at a time, one industry at a time. Slowly but surely!;)
There's a lot more exciting things to come in the near future. Just keep an eye our for us.
The light did very well. But as you said it's a process to perfect.
Correct proportion and balance of different nm's is what allows for ideal photomorphogenesis.
The McCree RQE table/curve is the most accurate to use when referring to a graph or curve of photosynthetic efficiency.
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But neither basic action spectrums or RQE tell how much light of certain nm's to provide the plants...just how well they will be used when they are provided.

PSU...great job man. Kept it legit and focused on the test. And hung in all the way through. Guaranteed to be some dank smoke.
 
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PurpleBuz

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I've personally tested one single source led all the way up to four chips on a fixture. Yes, you may have a little better area coverage but you are loosing the punch power when you lower the wattage on the chip. .
I'd like to emphasize what Greengenes stated about coverage. It is a pretty significant factor in deploying a grow. A really strong and small point source of focused leds requires quite a bit of distance to get coverage over the whole canopy, and then it won't be even coverage unless a light mover is used. Even coverage over the canopy is as important as punch power.

I do like that spectrum, lots of deep red! this test grow should give some idea of performance.,
 

PSUAGRO.

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Hey PSUAGRO, I'm on edge waiting for some update and results. :-D
I'm still busy friend...............the aerial applications did it's damage, but still fighting the bastards..........worst we had in years due to the rains/cool summer. Getting overtime though!, and playing on the work laptop.:P

001.JPG ..............this is why locust swarms bring absolute fear in the agricultural industry====ours is minuscule in comparison

chopping the girls down tomorrow(light has been off since Friday). Will update on Hump day:hump:
 
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churchhaze

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The whole concept of "punch power" is ridiculous.

"We're trying to perfect the ideal punch vs area coverage." is basically another way of saying "the source doesn't generate enough light to cover a large enough area. Because of this, we need an incredibly high die density and powerful optics to meet specifications."

A lot of us run cobs at 40-60W evenly spread over the canopy with no lenses or reflectors at all.
 
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churchhaze

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What I really can't understand is how a few pages back it was suggested to put the light 3 inches to the canopy.

If you put those optics on one of my vero 29s and run it at 2.1A, it would burn down your canopy like ants under a magnifying glass. Not from heat conduction, but through radiation alone.
 
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MrFlux

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What I really can't understand is how a few pages back it was suggested to put the light 3 inches to the canopy.

If you put those optics on one of my vero 29s and I run it at 2.1A, I would burn down your canopy like ants under a magnifying glass. Not from heat conduction, but through radiation alone.
It must be a pretty weak light compared to normal COBs. The point sourciness is also not ideal. I'm impressed how well psuagro did given this light. Looking at the evenness of the plants he must have rotated them like it's a barbeque. I think it is only out of respect for him that Innoled is not completely flamed down here. Like what normally would happen with "320W replaces 1000W" claims.
 
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