shooting instructor gets second amendmented to death by 9 year old girl with full auto uzi

MidwesternGro

MidwesternGro

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Even a small man can lose control of a fully automatic weapon with a small round if they have never fired one before. I think a sane policy would be to raise the age to fire an automatic weapon to the driving age.
 
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NoDrama

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Hazydat620 said:
It is alright, this is AMERICA, and that CHILDS 2nd Amendment right to do so. Fucking libs and their tight ass unpatriotic gun laws.
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I hate to be such a pain in the ass, but would like to point out that the constitution conveys no rights upon anyone. The second amendment does not give you a right to posses a gun, it makes the government powerless to do anything to restrict that right. Rights cannot come from pieces of paper for if they could then the paper could be rewritten and then they wouldn't really be rights, they would just be temporary privileges. I think it is necessary to point out that rights come from being a human being, not from a piece of paper.
 
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Glaucoma

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Most weapons have a magazine safety.


Don't get me wrong.. having your finger on the trigger is bad form.
 
Harrekin

Harrekin

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Ironically I read that she shot him directly after he said "Ok, you're ready, give me one shot".

It was in a "no bullshit", broadsheet newspaper.

The kind that doesn't distort the truth, it just sometimes doesn't report on certain topics.
 
TakeTheTicket

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Harrekin said:
Ironically I read that she shot him directly after he said "Ok, you're ready, give me one shot".

It was in a "no bullshit", broadsheet newspaper.

The kind that doesn't distort the truth, it just sometimes doesn't report on certain topics.
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There's a video, see for yourself.
 
Harrekin

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MidwesternGro said:
(CNN) -- A shooting instructor is dead, the victim of a gun-range accident. A 9-year-old girl is surely traumatized. And plenty of people, including many gun enthusiasts, are asking: Why give a child a submachine gun to shoot?

The deadly incident occurred Monday morning at a gun range in Arizona that caters to Las Vegas tourists, many of whom drive an hour from the gambling center to fire high-powered weapons.

Charles Vacca was accidentally shot in the head as he instructed the 9-year-old girl how to fire an Uzi, an Israeli-made 9mm submachine gun. As she pulled the trigger, the gun jumped out of her left hand toward Vacca, who was standing beside her.

"To put an Uzi in the hands of a 9-year-old ... is extremely reckless, " CNN law enforcement analyst Tom Fuentes said.

Gun experts contacted by CNN on Wednesday said young children should be taught to shoot with single-shot firearms rather than submachine guns.

They also said that safe learning is connected to the ability and experience of the instructor.

Girl, 9, kills gun instructor with Uzi
"It's always the supervision," said Greg Danas, president of Massachusetts-based G&G Firearms. "But you also have gun enthusiasts running businesses where they place firearms in the hands of the uninformed, whether they're 9-year-old kids who are not capable or adults. It all stems from gun enthusiasts running businesses that require a level of professionalism and education. The unexpected with firearms is something that's only learned through years of being a trainer, not a gun enthusiast."

Representatives of the gun range declined CNN requests for comment on the incident. But Sam Scarmardo, who operates Bullets and Burgers, told CNN affiliate KLAS on Tuesday they "really don't know what happened."

"Our guys are trained to basically hover over people when they're shooting," Scarmardo said. "If they're shooting right-handed, we have our right-hand behind them ready to push the weapon out of the way. And if they're left-handed, the same thing."

Vacca had his right hand on the girl's back and his left hand under her right arm when he was shot.

Opinion: Why is a 9-year-old firing an Uzi?

Danas questioned why the instructor in Arizona was standing immediately to the left of the Uzi, which would have recoiled in that direction.

"It's an awful shame," he said. "He shouldn't have been to the left side of the gun... But that child should not have been shooting anything other than a single-shot firearm."

Danas, whose daughters are 11 and 13, said his girls learned to shoot when they were 4 years old, with a single-shot, .22-caliber pistol.

Fuentes, who was a firearms instructor while he was with the FBI, said students are taught to fire in three-round bursts.

It's not like in the movies where somebody shoots 30 rounds nonstop, he said. "You're going to lose control."

http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/26/us/arizona-girl-fatal-shooting-accident/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
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So essentially you're saying the Israelis are using children to kill Americans?
 
Harrekin

Harrekin

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TakeTheTicket said:
There's a video, see for yourself.
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I don't really find it necessary to watch a child who should never been holding that weapon accidentally shoot a man in the head.

I don't disagree with children learning to operate firearms safely to avoid exactly this sort of thing from happening, but she is 9 and it's an Uzi (that even most of the metrosexual little bitch men nowadays would have trouble controlling).

And you know how this could've been easily avoided if she simply HAD to shoot that weapon?

Only load one bullet.
 
TakeTheTicket

TakeTheTicket

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Harrekin said:
I don't really find it necessary to watch a child who should never been holding that weapon accidentally shoot a man in the head.

I don't disagree with children learning to operate firearms safely to avoid exactly this sort of thing from happening, but she is 9 and it's an Uzi (that even most of the metrosexual little bitch men nowadays would have trouble controlling).

And you know how this could've been easily avoided if she simply HAD to shoot that weapon?

Only load one bullet.
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The video doesn't show that, and the video shows that wasn't the last thing he said. :roll:
 
Harrekin

Harrekin

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ChesusRice said:
Well now she really has a good story to tell at school about "what I did this summer" that wont be topped by any other kid in class
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I'd give a kid that age an airsoft gun to learn the safety side of things.

Operates exactly the same externally, and a kid wouldn't be able to learn the internal operation of either anyways.

9 to me is too young for an actual gun tho, even as pro gun as I am.
 
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