Any way to curb plant width?

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Trackr

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churchhaze said:
If you cut off a shoot when it's young, it will waste very little. If you cut off a large branch, it will waste a lot.

Plant mass is carbon, which took a lot of energy to put there. If you're going to cut a shoot, do it before it turns into a branch.

Just keep in mind, without those lower branches, you will need more plants to fill out a canopy.
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No, I get that if you cut off a branch, you're throwing away whatever energy the plant had to use to form that branch.

But I think the thought process here is that - if you cut off a branch (regardless of its size) BEFORE it begins to flower, you're still saving a lot of energy because the plant won't create flowering on those lower branches anymore, and then that energy can go towards the higher branches' flowers.

That does make sense to me on a purely logical basis.

Uncle Ben said:
Might wanna pick up a book on botany and learn about those wasteful processes like photosynthesis.
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Can you recommend one? There are a ton.

jacksthc said:
Trackr your not going to get a lot of help on this thread

Lot of growers on here follow UB
on here and would say the canopy can never be too thick

I like a full canopy but not too thick as it will increase the chance of bud rot in late flower, increases humidty, reduces air flow and if you get spider mite by the time you see them its too late

the buds need space to grow, the tom cage sounds good and my advice would be to remove a lot of the streched shoots

so the plant don't bush out as much :)
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What is UB?
 
Michiganja Meduana

Michiganja Meduana

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Uncle Ben

He's a very knowledgeable member here, who just wants to help people grow weed. I, and many of us here really really appreciate what he does for people. He's also some sort of super scientific plant botanist.

Just try to learn from him.
 
Uncle Ben

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On many occasions I have recommended Mel Franks MJ Insiders Growers Guide. It is based on botanical facts backed up by scientific research.

It's a weed. Treat it as such and you'll be fine.
 
jacksthc

jacksthc

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Uncle Ben said:
On many occasions I have recommended Mel Franks MJ Insiders Growers Guide. It is based on botanical facts backed up by scientific research.

It's a weed. Treat it as such and you'll be fine.
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great book just down loaded it, this parts really interesting, all about how airflow and removing a few fan leaves to increase airflow

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so do you just miss out the bits you don't like lol
 
jacksthc

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Trackr said:
Seems like there's an Uncle Ben cult around here.. :)

I will find that book.
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UB spends a lot of time on the site and often very helpfull

as far as I know he reads a lot of books and seen many growers go over the top and remove to many fan leaves in flower and it has crippled there crop

So by by telling growers not to remove fan leaves he has been very popular on the form as many of these growers will follow his topping thread

The main problem is he season grower and grows many diffent plants outside

So most of his advice is based on his out door crops and books his read

I am a perpetual indoor grower with 100's of pics of my indoor crops at diffent stages

Grown over 50 crops in the last 10 years, all way flowered under hps/mh and most of them grown in soil, for years I have been topping, lst and removing fan leaves.

you asked a good question and needed help and thats all I was trying to do
 
tekdc911

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you could mainline them


just figured id add i defoliate mid veg i just feel it promotes stretching on the side shoots
but i lst to a flat canopy and grow indoors
and take no leaves off during flower
 
ODanksta

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Just find a single cola domn strain. Almost any sativa will do. Something like sour D, chem dawg or jack herer. Veg for two weeks trim bottom shit for clones and boom you got sausage on a stick.. Damn I'm hungry
 
ODanksta

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jacksthc said:
UB spends a lot of time on the site and often very helpfull

as far as I know he reads a lot of books and seen many growers go over the top and remove to many fan leaves in flower and it has crippled there crop

So by by telling growers not to remove fan leaves he has been very popular on the form as many of these growers will follow his topping thread

The main problem is he season grower and grows many diffent plants outside

So most of his advice is based on his out door crops and books his read

I am a perpetual indoor grower with 100's of pics of my indoor crops at diffent stages

Grown over 50 crops in the last 10 years, all way flowered under hps/mh and most of them grown in soil, for years I have been topping, lst and removing fan leaves.

you asked a good question and needed help and thats all I was trying to do
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I never take anything off unless it's dead or on the bottom. Might not be the best way but Damn I'm lazy
 
jacksthc

jacksthc

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ODanksta said:
I never take anything off unless it's dead or on the bottom. Might not be the best way but Damn I'm lazy
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lol its more lazy mate to trim lollypop the bottom of a plant because its takes a long time to trim all the airy buds at the bottom of a plant when you harvest
 
Michiganja Meduana

Michiganja Meduana

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Or, you can just cut what's ripe, then let the rest of the plant finish out, but all these suckers have been lollipopping, throwing a third of the yield right out the door. Cracks me up. All that lollipopping does, is costs you an ounce or so of bud.
 
jacksthc

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Michiganja Meduana said:
Or, you can just cut what's ripe, then let the rest of the plant finish out, but all these suckers have been lollipopping, throwing a third of the yield right out the door. Cracks me up. All that lollipopping does, is costs you an ounce or so of bud.
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not sure about this, as the plant will put the extra nutes and energy into the top buds,

and if I am wrong the airy buds don't weigh much, with my last crop I kept all the airy buds and there was 6 grams, just not worth the effort
as I am not a cash cropper and I grow loads of high quality buds
 
Michiganja Meduana

Michiganja Meduana

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Letting them finish out gives me buds of equal quality to the first harvest. No point in throwing away money. It's like growing an ounce in 3 weeks.
 
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