WHODAT@THADOR
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Correct, so if you think ya die and there is nothing else going on in the big picture of thing's GOD OR NOT then your mind is already "Simple" ...Thus, making it prime pickings
Don't lose your head, convert to Islam
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Padawanbater2
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So, again, according to you, no matter what you believe, your mind is "simple"?
Does that include you?
earnest_voice
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Wasn't your family in bed with hitler? You keep saying they were at the holocaust, i assume as nazi soldiers?
WHODAT@THADOR
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No I belong to the few....Ya blah blah to your response ahead of time
my opinion's are neither bias or emotionally based I'm just saying that people are entitled to there opinion's...Belief's whatever...."BUT" That it is a double edge'd sword and also enslave's them....Subsequently, they become enslaved by those same belief's therefore manipulatable....Take @Red1966 for example he wanted me to list out in another post why Mitt Romney is bad for the middle class??? In which case his response would have been to whatever I put that's Democratic blah blah ...But just the fact that you would think he would be show's how uninformed you truly are of Romney's politic's.....What is "SIMPLE" is the Psychology of the human mind and it's predictability to respond to generated Circumstance's.
my opinion's are neither bias or emotionally based I'm just saying that people are entitled to there opinion's...Belief's whatever...."BUT" That it is a double edge'd sword and also enslave's them....Subsequently, they become enslaved by those same belief's therefore manipulatable....Take @Red1966 for example he wanted me to list out in another post why Mitt Romney is bad for the middle class??? In which case his response would have been to whatever I put that's Democratic blah blah ...But just the fact that you would think he would be show's how uninformed you truly are of Romney's politic's.....What is "SIMPLE" is the Psychology of the human mind and it's predictability to respond to generated Circumstance's.
Padawanbater2
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You said theists & atheists have "simple minds", so you're either one or the other, so how are you "one of the few", and what is that supposed to mean exactly?No I belong to the few....Ya blah blah to your response ahead of time
WHODAT@THADOR
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The few ya kno "Harmonically"...Like I said I'm neither I am in pursuit of what is the truth, ya kno true meaining ....I did not single out any group I said them all.....IE If you are devote to a specific religion,group,whatever VERY FEW truly have the power to step back and evaluate what could actually be...Does that make since? The ability to see other possibilities because you are blinded by what your mind want's you to see, it's a predisposition no matter what to what the "TRUTH" may be....Harmonically 4 in 100 
Padawanbater2
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You can't be neither, you're either a theist or an atheist, you either believe in god/s or you don'tThe few ya kno "Harmonically"...Like I said I'm neither I am in pursuit of what is the truth, ya kno true meaining ....I did not single out any group I said them all.....IE If you are devote to a specific religion,group,whatever VERY FEW truly have the power to step back and evaluate what could actually be...Does that make since? The ability to see other possibilities because you are blinded by what your mind want's you to see, it's a predisposition no matter what to what the "TRUTH" may be....Harmonically 4 in 100
Atheism is the rejection of said belief in god/s, so how does that skew one's perspective one way or the other?
WHODAT@THADOR
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Ya kinda just made my point.you DON'T have to be either you can be open minded to other options as well as being aware that neither belief's have been proved or disproved... Neutral ....As for skewing one's perspective Religion is just the current most obvious example being that it invoke's such a emotional response between Believer's/Disbeliever's so I dont understand how it does not effect someones perspective?
Padawanbater2
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There are only 2 options; belief or disbelief, theist or atheist. If you don't believe in god/s then you are an atheist, if you do then you're a theist. What other option could you be open minded to?
WHODAT@THADOR
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So ya can't be like "Ugh" on both?Maybe a little mix on there is a god yet open to multidimensional theories and a little blend of several possibilities? What do you think?
Padawanbater2
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Well it's sort of a logical proposition, similar to a math equation, there can really only be one right answer and I only see two possibilities, as they're both definitive.
Just like 2+2 only has one right answer, the question of "Does God exist?" can only possibly have one right answer, too, right?
There are two positions to take, "yes, God does exist" = theist, and "no, God does not exist" = atheist. There can be no middle ground unless you decide not to take a position on said question, in that case you would be an agnostic = "I don't know if God exists"
I'm an agnostic atheist = "I don't know if God exists, but I believe God does not exist".
You could be an agnostic theist = "I don't know if God exists, but I believe God does exist".
A gnostic atheist = "I know God does not exist and I believe God does not exist".
A gnostic theist = "I know God does exist and I believe God does exist".
So it all depends on what you know and what you believe. Gnosticism deals with knowledge, atheism deals with belief.
So what do you know, and what do you believe?
desert dude
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To pick a nit: Some equations have two correct answers, for example Square root of x squared is +x and -x.
I am an atheist but I am not gonna beat up on people who believe in God or Allan or Buddha or the flying spaghetti monster. That way lies murder and mayhem.
I think the progressives are headed down that road in the US. The lefties seem intent on forcing religious people to violate their beliefs with the whole fight around Hobby Lobby as a prime example. The left van get all smug and happy about forcing Christians to bow down to the state but if you take a look around the world you will see that such absolutism foments wars. I don't want that in the US. Let the Christians/musselmen/et al practice their religion as they see fit as long as they are peaceful about it.
Padawanbater2
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Civil rights apply to everyone residing in said civilization/society, religious rights only apply to those that are religious
WHODAT@THADOR
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The problem with a math equation is that the journey to the sum can be different and vary from time to time right? Like 2+2=4 ...So, does 1+3 etc....The question then becomes what is the true sum of 4 right? Which ='s Sq Rt of is 1.414 which is the sum of the second quadrant of a Rt5..... which then =2.236 which then becomes infinite.....Like the question you are posing...There are more then four belief structure's...I'm not Hindu but what if you believed in the teaching's veda's present? Numerous entities that could be god's or not?? What if there could be god's but you don't know yet..... and believe it's space chipmunks that call the shot's and death is nothing more then the deionization of a body on a level not yet understood that was pre programmed by higher being's and you simply are assimilated into another vessel (body)for some higher unknown purpose what do they call the people who "Believe God could/may Exist's or not equally"? We still are getting off track because my point was that people who cannot keep there mind open to either of EVERYONE of your example's are guilty of "Simple" thinking thus exercising my original assertion.
UncleBuck
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good job on your holocaust denial, echelon1k1.
i call you echelon1k1 because you are, otherwise you would not have responded to a post addressed to echelon1k1.
your penis is tiny.
UncleBuck
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that's the biggest load of shit i have ever heard.
you are clearly a christian, you cry persecution and advocate on behalf of christians at every conceivable opportunity.
witness:
and yes, you do want to "beat up on" anyone that worships allah and you do not want to let the "musselmen" practice their religion, and i have the quotes from the ground zero mosque debate to prove it, you lying bigot.
no need to lie through your white nationalist teeth endlessly, desert dukkke. no one buys it anymore.
Red1966
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His claim, obviously false, was that atheists don't do such things, only the religious. Your point was stupid. As are you, ya stupid (insert slur for Irishman here)
UncleBuck
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you claim to be non-religious more often than you claim to be religious, so i guess we can use you (and your decomposing former families) as the counterexample.
Red1966
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the lack of belief in a god.also entails a lack of belief in right and wrong, meaning it can lead to even the most horrific actions.
OGEvilgenius
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Uh, you obviously missed out on Communism and the violent push of ideals as well as slaughter of millions that came with it.
You might want to read a book called The Authoritarians. It explains the how and why people in groups often behave awfully and also the motivations of those who control those groups. And it's rarely religious, although followers often are.
The anti Islam rhetoric that gets spewed constantly is disgusting. It is a peaceful religion as much as any religion is peaceful. All religions have nut jobs who have hijacked selective religious quotes and regional events to seize power and do awful things. And it's not just religious folks who are capable of this either.
Quite frankly what I see today regarding Islam from folks I don't imagine is a whole lot different than circa 30's Germany and all the anti Jewish propaganda. And it's really fucking scary.