Just transplanted to new soil, will plants heal better in light or dark?

[hypernovax]

I just transplanted some plants to new pots and soil, the roots were exposed, its mainly an outdoor grow and its just getting dark here, will the plants heal better in the dark or under lights? because i can put them under a few cfls if that wll make them recover faster

 

[Seamaiden]

Transplantation, unless it comes along with a serious pruning of the rootball and topside, should not be a cause for too much stress. My method will ALL transplants, not just Mary, is to break up a bit of the rootball (assuming I'm transplanting because they're bound), even taking off some root material. Then, transplant, give a good drink, and if the plant has been happy where it's been, I leave it there (don't change a good thing, yeah?).

You're on the other side of the world from where I am I bet, it's only 9:45am. Is it tomorrow there?

 

[hypernovax]

8pm here im in the middle east and i wasnt transplanting because rootbound, i was transplantng because I had them in shitty 5.5 ph soil they are only seedlings less than 3 weeks old

thanks for the reply, im growing these on the sill outdoors, it just got dark here, I was simply wondering if the roots would heal better if left in the dark or if i put them in my growbox with cfls

 

[hypernovax]

anyone? the newly transplanted plants are looking awful theyre drooping like crazy even the stem is drooping im worried theyre going to die, the roots were very small and weak, should i leave them outside its dark and very windy or will putting them under cfls help them recover faster?

 

[Seamaiden]

Just treat them like regular plants. Let them be, don't put them in too much wind or they could become uprooted.

 

[THEGROWER42384]

put them in the shade mist the leaves and hopefully you didnt mess the roots up to bad

 

[Seamaiden]

They're babies. Even if he did gouge into the rootball a bit too much, they WANT to grow, they want to live. As long as conditions aren't too harsh they will grow.

 

[hypernovax]

ok thanks guys i took them off the sill and put them in a dark room as its really windy outside

 

[hypernovax]

the 2 that i transplanted are looking veeeeery weak and droopy the stems are like rubber theyre both halfway bent over from the stems and all the leaves are drooping, theyre in the dark and its about 66-70f, the sun wont be out for another 4 hours, im worried they're going to die, should i just leave them in the dark or will cfls help? and is it normal for the stem itself to droop? because the stem is bent halfway and its just hanging... im worried they're dead

 

[Proph]

calm down, they will die not that fast from a simple transplant unless you really messed up. Wait for the sun, do not mess with its daily light / dark time.

 

[hypernovax]

alrght thanks, ive only had them outdoors(only) for a few days now, before I had them(24/0) outdoors then when its dark cfls for the rest of the night but now im growing them outdoors only, but yea ill keep them out til the sun is up

 

[hypernovax]

ok so the transplanted plants arent doing so good the big one dying or dead, pic below, is there any chance of saving it?
another random pic of some plants i got goin, the transplanted one in the 2nd pic is the 1st one this was a few hours ago thought the first pic is it now

sorry for low quality pics
is there anything i can do to save it now or is it gone?

 

[Seamaiden]

How many nodes of growth do you have? Very young seedlings are pretty much geared to come back, just add water. These look a little older, though. Can you get molasses where you are? (I'm talking about blackstrap made from sugar cane, or the sugar beet type.) Or, I'm sure that there are people who farm tomatoes, ask an old timer what they do if they have a plant in trouble, old timers are great for tips and tricks.

 

[hypernovax]

I think about 4 or 5 nodes knda hard to tell right now,I can get molasses but not right now probably tommorow, thanks for the reply.
it only seems to be getting worse after a full day of sun but I think I know why, the soil im using now is really packed and compact, bag drainage, the roots are probably having a hard time penetrating the soil, I had better drainage fluffier soil before but its ph was 5.5 and the only soil I could find with a proper ph is really shitty, next time i visit the garden shop im going to see if they have vermiculite or perlite

 

[Seamaiden]

Hmm.. you know that instead of changing the soil (I think a mix might have been best, especially if the plants were doing alright otherwise, can't remember if you said you had problems that brought you to change out the soil), you can also use baking soda to bring the pH up. Be careful, it adds salts, but buffers quite well.

So, if the soil isn't draining so well, take the pot off any trays, if you can raise it off that surface of the sill to better allow it to drain that will help. Poke small holes in the soil with something like a skewer, too.

And, if you have a garden shop and you still have that low pH soil, get some lime or dolomite and mix that in, should help buffer it up fairly well.

 

[hypernovax]

thanks i never knew about baking soda, is it only baknig soda what about baking powder?
i went to the garden shop yesterday, theyre really old fashioned here I asked about ph strips and ph products and noone knows wtf im talking about, I only transplanted 2 of my plants to see how it goes the rest are in the 5.5 ph soil it probably has lots of salts built up and is locked out of nutes, maybe I should flush them all then add baking soda?

 

[Seamaiden]

Yes, if you think the soil is full of nutrients then a flush might be in order. I'm betting you're going to have to order your test supplies online, but see, here's the thing that gets me. How the hell did we grow ANYTHING before we worried about things like the pH?

I have the exact opposite problem, soil that tends towards the high end of pH, and water (deep well) that's even higher. I'm sure that we get it close to 8, if not above, straight out of the tap. Full of minerals.

Baking powder is NOT the same thing as baking soda, don't get them confused, or your plants will bubble and stuff the moment any moisture hits that stuff. A big reason for the presence of baking soda in certain baking recipes is specifically to lower the pH (baking is chemistry, that's all I know, and that's my story and I'm sticking to it).

If the pH of your water is a bit higher I'm betting that would help, too.

Oh yeah, edited to add the one major lesson I've learned in life, when trying to keep living things living--if it ain't broke DON'T (try to) fix it! If the plants are growing fine in that low pH soil, let 'em be until or unless they "tell" you they're not happy there.

 

[hypernovax]

I never put nutes in the 5.5 ph soil but on the bag it says it already has slow release nutes. I have grown in the same soil before no real problems just that my autoflower plants that were supposed to grow to about 2 feet grew to 6-8 inches. And the main reason I got new soil and transplanted the big plant and another is because the bigger plant had some major problems, as you can see in this pic it was turning yellow and had the bottom leaves burning

which I think is most likely a ph problem/nute lockout/salt buildup, the other ones are smaller no problems yet but they seem to be getting slightly more yellow as they grow. Im gonna see how this transplant goes and maybe try flushing the other ones then adding some baking soda. Thanks for your help

 

[hypernovax]

This grow is nothing important anyways, Its just experimental with some bagseed, im not really expecting bud just experience, I will probably be moving out of the country for college before they're done budding

 

[Seamaiden]

Just curious, do you have issues with heat at this time? Your problems look somewhat similar to some that I've been having with a few of my plants since it's gotten hot up here in the mountains.