Recycled Organic Living Soil (ROLS) and No Till Thread

Bueno Time

Bueno Time

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Just ordered a bag of 6 Bocking 14 live root cuttings. Pretty stoked and glad my climate allows immediate planting upon arrival so I wont have to put them in pots indoors. Should be excellent worm food and for top dressing/mulching, pretty excited to take my organic gardening up another notch.
 
st0wandgrow

st0wandgrow

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Bueno Time said:
Just ordered a bag of 6 Bocking 14 live root cuttings. Pretty stoked and glad my climate allows immediate planting upon arrival so I wont have to put them in pots indoors. Should be excellent worm food and for top dressing/mulching, pretty excited to take my organic gardening up another notch.
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Great score!

Where did you order them fro Bueno?
 
Bueno Time

Bueno Time

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st0wandgrow said:
Great score!

Where did you order them fro Bueno?
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Horizon Herbs

I paid $26.90 shipped for 6 pack they have the 6 packs of Bocking 14 for $12 plus shipping, singles of Bocking 14 for $3 each plus $14 shipping (yikes) so its best to get a 6 pack I think since shipping cost is the same for 1 or 6 cuttings.

They also have True Comfrey for $5 per cutting but that is not sterile and will create viable seeds if left uncut long enough and spread like a crazy and you will never get rid of it once its established if you tear the plant out then each root piece can start a new plant or roto-till the ground to chew the roots up each 1" chunk can and will start a new plant.

Sounds scary to me so I went with the Bocking 14 since its sterile and supposed to actually yield a little higher and be more vigorous but the true comfrey is still best for medicinal uses.

Actually once a Bocking 14 plant establishes a root system you wont get rid of it either but at least it wont spread from where you plant it unless you till the roots up.
 
Mohican

Mohican

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Comfrey sounds like a good candidate for a container plant. I have a taro I can't get rid of for the same reason.
 
Chronikool

Chronikool

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Mohican said:
Comfrey sounds like a good candidate for a container plant. I have a taro I can't get rid of for the same reason.
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'accumulation' type plantz such as Comfrey and dandelionz good pointz is that their deep root systemz can pull nutrientz from poor soil...maybe not the best candidate for a container plant mo...will still work but kind of defeatz the purpose because no doubt you will be feeding it up.. ;)
 
a senile fungus

a senile fungus

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I wanted to plant some of these in planters around my parents property but I realized a dynamic accumulator might not be much good in a container. It seems to me that they would only have access to what I gave them in the soil, as opposed to being able to dynamically accumulate straight from the ground...
 
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CannaBare

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It seems to me comfrey is the best all around composting and mulching plant. I tried topdressing with dandelions once and it robbed my soil of all the nitrogen. Anyone notice that? But I love the leaves in salads, so they have a use :)
 
st0wandgrow

st0wandgrow

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a senile fungus said:
I wanted to plant some of these in planters around my parents property but I realized a dynamic accumulator might not be much good in a container. It seems to me that they would only have access to what I gave them in the soil, as opposed to being able to dynamically accumulate straight from the ground...
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Yeppers. Those roots will mine down deep in the soil and pull up all sorts of minerals and micro nutrients. Maybe not a complete waste of time in a pot, but ideally you want them in the ground
 
IgnatiusWakefield

IgnatiusWakefield

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So I see a soil mix every few pages and I for the life of me can't figure out how I am supposed to measure anything. Can anyone provide any assistance?
 
st0wandgrow

st0wandgrow

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IgnatiusWakefield said:
So I see a soil mix every few pages and I for the life of me can't figure out how I am supposed to measure anything. Can anyone provide any assistance?
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25%-33% each of peat/coco, aeration bits, and compost. To that, you will add a couple cups per cubic foot of base your meals (kelp, neem seed, alfalfa, crabshell, etc.) IE 1/2 a cup per cf of each of those. Then your mineral package will be added at 3-4 cups per cubic foot. Rock dusts, greensand, oyster shell flour, gypsum, dolo lime, etc. Personally I'd go with 3 cups per cf of Rock dusts, and a 1/2 cup per cf of a liming agent (oyster shell flour, dolo lime, calcium carbonate) and then round it off with maybe a little gypsum and green sand.
 
Midwest Weedist

Midwest Weedist

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I would like to note that alfalfa meal tends to be very hot compared to other amendments. I use it at about half or at 3/4 the rate that I use my other amendments. Sativas seem to be really sensitive to it in my experience, but they're sensitive to everything but heights.
st0wandgrow said:
25%-33% each of peat/coco, aeration bits, and compost. To that, you will add a couple cups per cubic foot of base your meals (kelp, neem seed, alfalfa, crabshell, etc.) IE 1/2 a cup per cf of each of those. Then your mineral package will be added at 3-4 cups per cubic foot. Rock dusts, greensand, oyster shell flour, gypsum, dolo lime, etc. Personally I'd go with 3 cups per cf of Rock dusts, and a 1/2 cup per cf of a liming agent (oyster shell flour, dolo lime, calcium carbonate) and then round it off with maybe a little gypsum and green sand.
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Chronikool

Chronikool

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CannaBare said:
It seems to me comfrey is the best all around composting and mulching plant. I tried topdressing with dandelions once and it robbed my soil of all the nitrogen. Anyone notice that? But I love the leaves in salads, so they have a use :)
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My current brew of Comfrey and Dandelions...it keepz getting added too....just starting to get that finger lickin' good skin on top and pleasant pong... ;)

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Midwest Weedist

Midwest Weedist

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Hey guys, bit of an odd question. I didn't have time to let my clover grow up for mulch before I planted my ladies and have been using dead houseplant leaves and leftover plant scrapes from trimming as such. So I decided to use the leaves from my two poinsettias last night after I cleaned them up and transplanted them.
But I was thinking this morning that since they're toxic to ingest, would that present the risk of the plant up taking some of the toxins? I definitely don't want to throw away my batch of notill super soil but I don't want to poison myself even more.
 
IgnatiusWakefield

IgnatiusWakefield

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st0wandgrow said:
25%-33% each of peat/coco, aeration bits, and compost. To that, you will add a couple cups per cubic foot of base your meals (kelp, neem seed, alfalfa, crabshell, etc.) IE 1/2 a cup per cf of each of those. Then your mineral package will be added at 3-4 cups per cubic foot. Rock dusts, greensand, oyster shell flour, gypsum, dolo lime, etc. Personally I'd go with 3 cups per cf of Rock dusts, and a 1/2 cup per cf of a liming agent (oyster shell flour, dolo lime, calcium carbonate) and then round it off with maybe a little gypsum and green sand.
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So I need enough soil for 6 15gal smart pots (90gals/14cu ft right?) I would proportion my base to equal the gallons I need, then add the amendments?
 
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