24" to grow from top of soil, 8" tall 8wks in

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Soulkipper

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How close to switching over to flower am I at this point?
I cut the 6 lowest nodes off then finally removed the last of their sun leaves so it's now 1 main stem FIMed at the top (three wks ago) with 2 nodes below untouched and 4 nodes below those FIMed a week ago.

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Original Master Kush plant
expected yield (package) up to 750g indoors / 1000g outdoors @ 1m^2
Flowering expected to last 8 weeks (not 7-8wks) and correct me if I'm wrong, +1 week for transition to flowering?
Lights are best at 10-14"
 
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mmjmon

mmjmon

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Soulkipper said:
How close to switching over to flower am I at this point?
I cut the 6 lowest nodes off then finally removed the last of their sun leaves so it's now 1 main stem FIMed at the top (three wks ago) with 2 nodes below untouched and 4 nodes below those FIMed a week ago.

Info:
Original Master Kush plant
expected yield (package) up to 750g indoors / 1000g outdoors @ 1m^2
Flowering expected to last 8 weeks (not 7-8wks) and correct me if I'm wrong, +1 week for transition to flowering?
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Got pics??
 
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Soulkipper

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I'm kinda not expecting 750g though, but sorta maximize the space or use it as best as I can without going past the 24" from the soil mark. The lights are best @ 10-14"

tip to tip width the leaves are 9", and the bud sites or whatever they're called span about 7"
 
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Soulkipper

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The top is pushing upward at about 1"/week and I'm not sure how far it'll stretch in flower without cutting anymore of the tops to stunt its growth.

70% indica 30% sativa
 
TheYokel

TheYokel

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Few things.

#1 - You can flower any time you want to. Some people even grow 12/12 from seed. If your plant has a few leaves on it, it can be flowered.

#2 - You aren't going to get 750g out of *any* strain on your first run. Not going to happen. Even if you are running a 1000w HPS that would still be 3/4g per watt. First run? Not going to happen. Especially with only two plants.

That "750g" expectation is from a square-meter, under a 1000w HPS. In 100% optimal conditions. Probably hydro. With co2.

Seed banks always exaggerate. How else will they get you to buy *their* strain? Say it produces more...

#3 - Your plant is going to double in size/height when you flower it. Keep that in mind.

#4 - Stop cutting off the tops if you are getting ready to flower. You want the main branches to get nice and healthy before flipping so they can support the colas you hope to be growing.
 
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Soulkipper

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The main branch is back to full health.. has been since about 2 weeks after topping it. I figure the other 4 branches should be good after another couple days so if they need supports whatever.

#2 should not be far exaggerated... a meter squared is a huge amount of space (not considering height either) for a couple freezer bags of herb which are not a sq. meter.
bad kat on this site has a prime example of approx. 1m^2 plant that looks willing to yield the near 1000g. I'm aiming for 150-200g+ on that plant.

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TheYokel

TheYokel

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Soulkipper said:
The main branch is back to full health.. has been since about 2 weeks after topping it. I figure the other 4 branches should be good after another couple days so if they need supports whatever.

#2 should not be far exaggerated... a meter squared is a huge amount of space (not considering height either) for a couple freezer bags of herb which are not a sq. meter.
bad kat on this site has a prime example of approx. 1m^2 plant that looks willing to yield the near 1000g. I'm aiming for 150-200g+ on that plant.
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A couple freezer bags?

750g+ is over a pound and a half.

#2 - This is your first grow. Don't expect to yield what others are yielding your first run. Also, your plants are no where near big enough to yield 200g. That's almost a half of a pound.

"(not considering height)": You have to consider height. Look at the size of the plant and bud badkat has.

I'm honestly not sure if you are trolling, or just have illusions of grandeur.
 
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Soulkipper

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a half pound fits in a freezer bag without compressing any bud
2-2.25oz in a quart mason jar
square meters is not cubic meters you damned hooligan.
the plant on the far left in bad kats pic is probably about 200g
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TheYokel

TheYokel

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So I take it that you plan on getting 200g+ off of a 2" tall plant. Yeah, height has nothing to do with it.

Got ya.

I'll dip out of the thread now. Have fun shooting for 200g without "going past that 24" from soil mark".
 
TheYokel

TheYokel

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Soulkipper said:
You kinda just ruined my thread. Plz delete ALLLLL of your posts.
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No, I ruined your expectations. I answered every question you asked in my first post. Oh, except one. Sorry. It takes about 2 weeks for a plant to fully reach flower.
 
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Soulkipper

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an ounce in a bag is like 4"x4"
that plant from the lowest bud site to the top is 4 1/2"
so 6 main branches (4 FIMed) + the top with a FIM.
the main stem has 4 pairs + the top (FIMed). (Just about to stretch the 4 pairs at the top to 3-4" in height probably in 1 week)
the 4 lowest each have 2 pairs + the tops (all FIMed)
the 2 in the middle are them self + whatever grows under untouched shitz.

8.5" / 24" @ 7wks flat doesn't leave much room for error if it will truly double in the next 8-10wks
 
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TheYokel

TheYokel

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Soulkipper said:
an ounce in a bag is like 4"x4"
that plant from the lowest bud site to the top is 4 1/2"
the main stem has 4 pairs + the top (FIMed). (Just about to stretch the 4 pairs at the top to 3-4" in height probably in 1 week)
the 4 lowest each have 2 pairs + the tops (all FIMed)
the 2 in the middle are them self + whatever grows under untouched shitz.
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Can't argue with that math...
 
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THE KONASSURE

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and what lights are you using ?

That plant as is ? 16 to 40 grams but you should be able to pull 100g`s a plant even if they are short get something thats almost pure indica like AK and you`ll yield pretty well out of a shorty plant

you know the breeders seem to live in this world where a space 1mx1m and over 3m high is 1msq`d like they say get 750g or 1kg or even 1.2kg per meter squared

but that`s bullshit if its higher then 1 meter then its bigger then 1 meter squared and if I had say 3 to 6 meters in height and only 1m x 1m of floor space then why the hell would I have my roots on the floor and not on the walls ?

Someone needs to standardized these "yield" lies , lol

I`ve found that going 12/12 from seed even in a 1/2L pot can get anything from 10grams up to 2 zips all depends how good you are

I think at least 2 people have got over an ounce from the party cup grow

So if you know what your doing you can get over an ounce from a party cup going 12/12 from seed

but not all seeds and not all growers are the same

Good luck mate but if you have low height then go with lots of clones right into 12/12 or 10/14 as soon as they have rooted

Don`t go spending weeks growing a plant and training it as it could end up way to big for your space

You can mainline a plant and get it to grow pretty flat, or even branch it off in 4 or 6 directions

but its a lot of work for very little reward when dealing with tight spaces its best to just flower sooner and keep the plant small

The bigger it gets the more space you need for roots and the less space you`ll have for buds, you have to work out your optimal plant size and number for the area and lights you have, as well as other factors that none of us but you the person growing can notice
 
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