christians against science...but let one get sick

gorillagrower0840

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"Without religion, we have no moral authority."

Ya maybe for you. I don't have religion, but trust me I have plenty of morality. That just shows how weak-minded you are.


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whitebb2727

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You have spent to much time around fire and brimstone preachers. That is who they are.

Check out some contemporary services. They even allow the devil music, Rock n Roll.

I don't know where you are coming from with this. Yes there are things that christians will tell is wrong.
You can not blame a person for standing by their beliefs, no more than I can blame you for standing by yours.

You know what church was for me growing up?

Ice cream socials during the summer. Pot luck dinners. A community that takes care of each other. A group that cares for its community and the people in it. Multiple mentors teaching me right from wrong.

They send a bus around to pick the kids up and feeds them when the parents blow their money on dope. It buys them shoes and clothes.

Man those Christains! What horrible people.

A man, considered to be a 2nd father to me started my interest in electronics.
He worked for a bank, later bought out by Bank of America.
He took me inside to show me the inner workings. Showed me the hard drives.
They were the size of washing machines that held very large drums for the drives.
He was a smart man that also had a degree in physics.

It seems to me that you are the one that is not very tolerant.
 

gorillagrower0840

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You have spent to much time around fire and brimstone preachers. That is who they are.

Check out some contemporary services. They even allow the devil music, Rock n Roll.

I don't know where you are coming from with this. Yes there are things that christians will tell is wrong.
You can not blame a person for standing by their beliefs, no more than I can blame you for standing by yours.

You know what church was for me growing up?

Ice cream socials during the summer. Pot luck dinners. A community that takes care of each other. A group that cares for its community and the people in it. Multiple mentors teaching me right from wrong.

They send a bus around to pick the kids up and feeds them when the parents blow their money on dope. It buys them shoes and clothes.

Man those Christains! What horrible people.

A man, considered to be a 2nd father to me started my interest in electronics.
He worked for a bank, later bought out by Bank of America.
He took me inside to show me the inner workings. Showed me the hard drives.
They were the size of washing machines that held very large drums for the drives.
He was a smart man that also had a degree in physics.

It seems to me that you are the one that is not very tolerant.
How many times do I have to tell you, I don't think most religious people are horrible people. I never said that. I understand that they do a lot of good. What the fuck!

I still don't support their false illogical beliefs though. You are so sensitive man, grow a pair. Stop being a sissy.
 

whitebb2727

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How many times do I have to tell you, I don't think most religious people are horrible people. I never said that. I understand that they do a lot of good. What the fuck!

I still don't support their false illogical beliefs though. You are so sensitive man, grow a pair. Stop being a sissy.

I'm not being a sissy.
I'm not claiming that you think we are bad people.
You stated your opinion and I stated mine. Not so much in response to you.

You will never see me preaching. I will not shove something down your throat.

Like I said you can't blame me for defending my beliefs, nor can I blame you.

We are two people with opposing ideas, doesn't mean at the end of the day we can't sit down and burn one and have a meaningful conversation.
 

Red1966

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"Without religion, we have no moral authority."

Ya maybe for you. I don't have religion, but trust me I have plenty of morality. That just shows how weak-minded you are.


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Yes, Charles Manson thought he was behaving morally, too. So did the guy who murdered those two cops the other day. Sorry, but YOU don't get to decide what's right and wrong. Because "Right" always turns out to be what benefits you.
 

Red1966

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"Without religion, we have no moral authority."

Ya maybe for you. I don't have religion, but trust me I have plenty of morality. That just shows how weak-minded you are.


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Bill Gates never gave a dime to any charity in his life until he was nationally embarrassed and shamed by Donald Trump for being the richest man on Earth and still never making a single charitable contribution ever. He still kept more than he could spend in 20 lifetimes, even with a $5,000,000 a day coke habit. Warren Buffet "pledged" to give away his money only AFTER his death, so he really isn't giving up anything. If these are your heroes, then you sure set a low bar.
 

tyler.durden

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Bill Gates never gave a dime to any charity in his life until he was nationally embarrassed and shamed by Donald Trump for being the richest man on Earth and still never making a single charitable contribution ever. He still kept more than he could spend in 20 lifetimes, even with a $5,000,000 a day coke habit. Warren Buffet "pledged" to give away his money only AFTER his death, so he really isn't giving up anything. If these are your heroes, then you sure set a low bar.
Hey Red. Would you post links to the Gates/Trump thing? That's sounds interesting, but I can't find it. When looking up Trump + Gates, there is some interesting back and forth. I've posted a couple below. Thanks...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/20/donald-trump-twitter-charities_n_2166053.html

http://www.forbes.com/sites/matthewherper/2012/04/17/why-bill-gates-is-a-hero-and-donald-trump-is-a-zero/

A quick search also showed that Buffet is active in philanthropy and charitable causes, giving 5% of the $30 billion per year promised to the Gates Foundation since 2006 (largest charitable contribution ever) - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Buffett#Philanthropy

It seems Buffet is currently giving away billions per year, and will give away the rest upon his death - https://www.looktothestars.org/celebrity/warren-buffett

He actively supports the following charities -

Charities & foundations supported 9
Warren Buffett has supported the following charities listed on this site:

 

reddan1981

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when I argue for religion I don't do it to prove my way of thinking is the best. I know current biblical belief has its many flaws. I suppose it depends on your definition of religion.
I know out of ignorance some might say, without religion there would be no war. I would say without evil intent there would be no war. It is evil intention that uses the possibilities of science to create such things as Ebola. Do you think MONEY was made with religious intent? Is it religious intent that drives the machinery trying to remove Assad? Convenient for U.N if it is.
It has been the drive for power and possession historically which has caused war. These wars have ALWAYS been controlled by the most wealthy, the casualties are mostly the poorest and most deprived.
Slave trade.... Yep, again. You think the average person could transport document and house slaves? Alot of attention is focused on race difference's. Most races have had their poorest enslaved, by their own race. Schools aren't teaching about white slavery to black industry, why's that? It had equal impact. Because if they taught how it was the POOR irrespective of colour that were enslaved it would highlight the dominance of wealth over lower classes of income throughout history. It is the fabrication of history. Their defence. Do you think an un educated poor person from desolate lands could even write a scripture?
 
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reddan1981

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We are being hoodwinked, divided and conquered. The ideals of a spiritually connected planet, where we live in harmonic balance with one another and nature, have been corrupted. The use of the roman/latin derived word Religion to broadly describe what was really an Empirical directive to conquer, show's our historical editor's motives.
 

gorillagrower0840

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Yes, Charles Manson thought he was behaving morally, too. So did the guy who murdered those two cops the other day. Sorry, but YOU don't get to decide what's right and wrong. Because "Right" always turns out to be what benefits you.
Ya key word: "THOUGHT". Manson was mentally unstable and had serious issues. I don't decide what's right and wrong, ethics and morality are universal, just like the laws of physics. And no "right" is not what benefits me. Think of "right" as being something that benefits everybody. Or just simply being a good person.

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reddan1981

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you are using quotes written for school children brother, two of your quotes actually contradict you. My thinking not to be condescending is you are still young (or immature). Don't be so rigid in your thinking, we know, mostly that which is taught us.
 

gorillagrower0840

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you are using quotes written for school children brother, two of your quotes actually contradict you. My thinking not to be condescending is you are still young (or immature). Don't be so rigid in your thinking, we know, mostly that which is taught us.
Please point out the two quotes that contradict me and explain why they do.
 

reddan1981

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My friend I do not wish to insult your intelligence. You subscribe to atheism maybe for atheist status or because it is more fashionable. Your perception has been deliberately narrowed. Look at your own posts and spot your own contradictions there are more than two.
 

gorillagrower0840

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My friend I do not wish to insult your intelligence. You subscribe to atheism maybe for atheist status or because it is more fashionable. Your perception has been deliberately narrowed. Look at your own posts and spot your own contradictions there are more than two.
No, I don't "subscribe" to anything. I can care less about status, image, or being fashionable. I never even knew about the word "atheist" until a couple years ago. I've grown up in a Christian family and used to go to church as a kid, but never ever could believe in the stuff. And as I got older, I realized how I don't like any religions. They all are scams to me honestly.

I truly don't know where you are coming from with the whole idea of I'm contradicting myself. Please point them out since you're the one accusing me of it.

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