The Theory of Relative Motion and Natural Purpose

Nevaeh420

Nevaeh420

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It seems like we have an astute bunch in this thread, so I will ask My question here:

How fast are we moving relative to the most distant galaxies on the opposite side of the universe?

Are we approaching light speed, compared to these distant galaxies? And if so, what are the implications for time travel?

I hope you guys can understand My question. I have been wondering this for many months now.

Thanks in advance.

~PEACE~
 
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Moebius

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Nevaeh420 said:
It seems like we have an astute bunch in this thread, so I will ask My question here:

How fast are we moving relative to the most distant galaxies on the opposite side of the universe?

Are we approaching light speed, compared to these distant galaxies? And if do, what are the implications for time travel?

I hope you guys can understand My question. I have been wondering this for many months now.

Thanks in advance.

~PEACE~
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This is a good question and I think I know the answer but I'm going to eat my supper, consider, then double check my facts before i do present my answer.

But I can say now that there are few or no implications with respect to time travel or general relativity. .. ..... back soon.
 
New Age United

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Nevaeh420 said:
It seems like we have an astute bunch in this thread, so I will ask My question here:

How fast are we moving relative to the most distant galaxies on the opposite side of the universe?

Are we approaching light speed, compared to these distant galaxies? And if so, what are the implications for time travel?

I hope you guys can understand My question. I have been wondering this for many months now.

Thanks in advance.

~PEACE~
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I was going to pose my own question but that is a very good question and I want Moebius to consider that first, I will take my time pondering it as well and see if I can respond.
 
New Age United

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Moebius said:
I love this quote from Brian Cox (British Pop-Star turned Physicist)

“We are the cosmos made conscious and life is the means by which the universe understands itself.”
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I am agnostic, but I have wondered if the ultimate purpose of creation is for God to know itself and realize it own being, the cosmos acts as a medium for God (Space) to come into being, the purpose of thought and logic is for god to eventually figure out that it is in fact god existing in human form, the purpose of emotions is for god to express it's inner heart, it could be said that it is the heart(subconscious) of God that is driving the cosmos (conscious)

Therefore God would have aspects of both good and evil, just as we do, in a sense we would be created in God's image, or at least in its imagination, imo, there very well could be a conscious God that is aware and alive (effective) in the universe, but I refuse to accept a supreme being that is male or female, masculine and feminine would be ying and yang expressions of God's being.
 
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New Age United

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Nevaeh420 said:
It seems like we have an astute bunch in this thread, so I will ask My question here:

How fast are we moving relative to the most distant galaxies on the opposite side of the universe?

Are we approaching light speed, compared to these distant galaxies? And if so, what are the implications for time travel?

I hope you guys can understand My question. I have been wondering this for many months now.

Thanks in advance.

~PEACE~
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No I think general relativity and time travel both have implications here. There is no possible way that they are traveling faster than the speed of light relative to each other. Space - time must be bending (dilating) at an infinite number of relative frames, thus makes me wonder, how does it all come together as a synchronistic and coherent universe?
 
New Age United

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No there is a possible way, because they are separated by time, relative motion is governed by the speed of light but because light takes so long to travel any distance there is no instantaneous or simultaneously occurring events, therefore as far as coherent space - time is concerned they are not actually traveling faster than the speed of light but as far as an observer who could observe the entire universe at once they are. You see an observer can not possibly perceive an event of faster than the speed of light.
 
New Age United

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If not for the speed of light as the governor space - time would be all contorted and the universe would be a mangled mess, which very well may be what is happening with black holes, but perhaps black holes serve their natural purpose of creating the means for other big bangs to occur, they are like seeds in the soil of space, collecting energy for the singularity, for another big bang. Like you say entropy, out of disorder comes what appears to be order and then it all falls apart again.
 
Nevaeh420

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New Age United said:
If not for the speed of light as the governor space - time would be all contorted and the universe would be a mangled mess, which very well may be what is happening with black holes, but perhaps black holes serve their natural purpose of creating the means for other big bangs to occur, they are like seeds in the soil of space, collecting energy for the singularity, for another big bang. Like you say entropy, out of disorder comes what appears to be order and then it all falls apart again.
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Yes, I have often pondered if black holes are a wormhole to a parallel multiverse.

This might help explain dark matter, because gravity could travel through these parallel dimensions, while still being invisible.

For every galaxy, there might be a super massive black hole, that leads to an invisible parallel galaxy?

I would love to travel through a black hole, or die trying.

~PEACE~
 
Moebius

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FAILED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm going to have to approach this tomorrow ... I'm having difficulty grasping the concept in my own mind of the nature of space expanding like a ballon and the principals of non-inertial reference points etc.. I wrote out a detailed explanation twice but am not satisfied with the clarity of my answer.

I'll get back on this one. ... GREAT BUT CHALLENGING QUESTION. .. I'm actually quite pissed at myself.
 
Nevaeh420

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Moebius said:

FAILED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm going to have to approach this tomorrow ... I'm having difficulty grasping the concept in my own mind of the nature of space expanding like a ballon and the principals of non-inertial reference points etc.. I wrote out a detailed explanation twice but am not satisfied with the clarity of my answer.

I'll get back on this one. ... GREAT BUT CHALLENGING QUESTION. .. I'm actually quite pissed at myself.
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Okay, I will have to wait until tomorrow then.

Remember, the OBSERVABLE universe is about 14 billion light years across, but we don't know how big the total universe is wide. Just something to think about.

Also, remember that the universe is accelerating as its expanding, so a million years from now, the galaxies will be traveling much faster away from eachother. But, the universe should last for billiions of more years, and still accelerating faster away from galaxy to galaxy.

So, maybe the galaxies are not traveling at the speed of light, but maybe its possible in the future?

And how fast are the galaxies traveling that are not in the observable universe? because we can only detect the observable universe.

Just some things to ponder before you draw any conclusions, and make your rebuttal.

~PEACE~
 
Moebius

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New Age United said:
No I think general relativity and time travel both have implications here. There is no possible way that they are traveling faster than the speed of light relative to each other. Space - time must be bending (dilating) at an infinite number of relative frames, thus makes me wonder, how does it all come together as a synchronistic and coherent universe?
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This question from Navaeh is something I don't think ive considered for a long time, if ever. .. Its like the answer is on the tip of my mind but I cannot access it. Not suprising when considering the Infinitesimally and insignificant small we are in comparison to the Universe. At this point I'm throwing in the towel and will attempt tomorrow. LOL
 
Moebius

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Let me share this

1. This is the Earth! This is where we live.




2. And this is where you live in your neighborhood, the solar system.


3. Here’s the distance, to scale, between the Earth and the moon. Doesn’t look too far, does it?

4. THINK AGAIN. Inside that distance you can fit every planet in our solar system, nice and neatly.

PerplexingPotato / Via reddit.com
5. But let’s talk about planets. That little green smudge is North America on Jupiter.

NASA / John Brady / Via astronomycentral.co.uk
6. And here’s the size of Earth (well, six Earths) compared with Saturn:


7. And just for good measure, here’s what Saturn’s rings would look like if they were around Earth:
 
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