discolored brittle leaves unhappy plant

Fease

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Roots Organic is pretty stout soil to begin with. I'm using the 707 blend stuff :). Really only needs 3-5ml cal/mag first 5 weeks. The soil is nice, sorta like hydro the way it holds water and kinda likes an acidic watering Ph. I see that N test is off the charts in post 11. The new one is almost just as dark. How's the new growth coming out?
 

SJ KOrganic

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Roots Organic is pretty stout soil to begin with. I'm using the 707 blend stuff :). Really only needs 3-5ml cal/mag first 5 weeks. The soil is nice, sorta like hydro the way it holds water and kinda likes an acidic watering Ph. I see that N test is off the charts in post 11. The new one is almost just as dark. How's the new growth coming out?

New growth is coming out great. Sorry, those are both the same test, i was just re-posting in case. But the fact is, it is showing the Nitrogen levels are literally off the chart lol.
 

0vergrown420

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I promise everything will go back to normal just by not doing anything but watering with ph'd water. Just having super soil alone would make me nervous and worried about over feeding and your adding liquid nuts on top of that. Fuck what the hydro ppl say (in this case) if your using super soil that's ALL YOU need. Maybe a compost tea (with no nutes just humus zho and black strap molasses. But definitely nothing more than that.
 

0vergrown420

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Also if your using compost teas avoid altering the ph with synthetic adjusters as they will kill all the beneficial bacteria you just gave your plants.
 

SJ KOrganic

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Also if your using compost teas avoid altering the ph with synthetic adjusters as they will kill all the beneficial bacteria you just gave your plants.

Cool man. Yea i got rid of the synthetic shit this weekend and went and got me some crystals! It kind of seems like a no-brainer. And yea, i have stuck to the recommendations of just giving it Ph'd water, with a little cal-mag, and they started perking back up, dewrinkling, and what appears that the purple is turning back green? I didnt even know that was possible....So as of right now they are doing good.


Another thing i noticed after i started giving cal/mag is that they are exploding in growth? Does this just verify that they were locked out due to lack of cal and or mag?
 

0vergrown420

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Sorry I didn't see your response till now, hope your babies are growing good! No I think they were starting to lock out from over feeding especially if your ph'd water fixed the problem. I'm glad they came back around. Do you have any new pics?
 

SJ KOrganic

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Sorry I didn't see your response till now, hope your babies are growing good! No I think they were starting to lock out from over feeding especially if your ph'd water fixed the problem. I'm glad they came back around. Do you have any new pics?
I would say they are happy :)
 

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If you notice the potatoe slices in the soil, im using the trick to figure out whether the GNATS i have are fungal gnats or not....But they are getting worse and worse. Not sure what to do.. I notice some leaves are being eaten !
 

SJ KOrganic

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Start to worry if it looks like this. Otherwise..I say go light on any nutes.
Oh but the fun doesn't stop there....For the passed few weeks ive been noticing on my 2 month girls, they are dropping leaves...And not like yellowing then dropping, like perfectly fine TO: Soggy wet and shriveled up, sitting in the soil...Same conditions and environment as the previous girls. And, not only that, but i am starting to notice the same damn features that the previous girls had issues with, on these, which is the brown spotting and decay looking growth. These are an entirely different strain, though... The smaller ones are on day 60 from clone. New growth looks fantastic....But the bottom is dying off.

I would like to note that we had a BIT of a heat issue for a few days, which has been resolved. With highs around 82 degrees, back down to 72 24/7
 

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Im going to do a PH runoff of my supersoil mix. It is still up in the air whether or not its "too hot". I am also going to do a run off of the little ones too. Will post back shortly.
 

SJ KOrganic

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super soil run off went in at 6.4 came out at 6.6, soil runoff of girls went in at 6.4, came out 6.6...i dont get it!! ahhh
 

cassinfo

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Oh but the fun doesn't stop there....For the passed few weeks ive been noticing on my 2 month girls, they are dropping leaves...And not like yellowing then dropping, like perfectly fine TO: Soggy wet and shriveled up, sitting in the soil...Same conditions and environment as the previous girls. And, not only that, but i am starting to notice the same damn features that the previous girls had issues with, on these, which is the brown spotting and decay looking growth. These are an entirely different strain, though... The smaller ones are on day 60 from clone. New growth looks fantastic....But the bottom is dying off.

I would like to note that we had a BIT of a heat issue for a few days, which has been resolved. With highs around 82 degrees, back down to 72 24/7
The bottom are dying off from lack of light penetration? In just guessing .. But over all, they look pretty good bro. Good job and keep us posted in the near future.
 

SJ KOrganic

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The bottom are dying off from lack of light penetration? In just guessing .. But over all, they look pretty good bro. Good job and keep us posted in the near future.
Sounds good. And i am a 100% believer that they just didnt get enough light. The new growth is the best ive seen yet and its grow rate is very rapid. As for the gnats, well they did cause a huge issue. But after some extensive cleaning, Azamax soil drench, and GNAT NIX, they are gone for good.

The reason this happened? Air pots!! Not to be an asshole to the manufacturers of this product but, overall they were just a waste of money. They SPRAY water out the sides if you water too fast, making them a pain in the ass to water, especially in cramped quarters, and ABSOLUTELY leave the roots susceptible to major problems like gnat nests and root rot. And if you want to get rid of them, forget it! They won't stop because they have easy access to their nests, rendering gnat nix useless. But, i will admit, transplanting is an absolute BREEZE. Now, if they came out with a solid walled pot that unfolds like an air pot does, with the only drainage being at the bottom, i'll be all over that! :)
 

old shol4evr

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7.0 is neutral for your soil,that is fine ,you just transplanted you have to consider that when you transplant you are in new soil again /just as if starting over again you have to go light on the nutrients,when they adjust to the now new soil and the roots are growing to fell up the pot it may take time just be patient you may have a few leaves go haywire on you .feed at 6.5 on your ph and 450 to 750 ppm ,ec0.9 to1.4 and you will be good ,growing in soil is just that,you cant feed synthetic's you have to feed organic.hope this helps
 
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