doublejj
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quickest way to get rid of something is to render is useless...animals are just not worth feeding
vegans..
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skunkd0c
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where do vegans stand on lab (in vitro meat)?
http://www.theguardian.com/science/2014/jul/13/laboratory-grown-beef-meat-without-murder-hunger-climate-change
http://www.theguardian.com/science/2014/jul/13/laboratory-grown-beef-meat-without-murder-hunger-climate-change
wouldnt touch it..seen it one a bunch of vegan pages the general census was they would not eat itwhere do vegans stand on lab (in vitro meat)?
http://www.theguardian.com/science/2014/jul/13/laboratory-grown-beef-meat-without-murder-hunger-climate-change
but they arent useless they have life..
they have vegan farm sanctuaries of animals that were apart of the factory farming life or just mistreated , often factory farms will chuck half dead animals on the side of the road in bad condition to just die, so these people will pick them up give them medical attention and have them live on a farm,what kind of animals live on a vegan farm?....
so any animal really.
i couldnt answer that question because that would depend on each individual vegan and i do not own a garden living in an apartment
quite the opposite actually.I just don't see many animals in a vegan world...
i dont think you understand what veganism really is.
We want animals to be animals, not used for food or skinned alive for fur coats.
we want them to be animals, and flock and frolic happily without being used in mass production filled with hormones and subjected to torture .
SnapsProvolone
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The minority viewpoint of veganism is idealistic and will never be the view of the majority. That said, vegans have the right to not eat meat just as much as the majority has the right to eat meat. Freedom of choice is awesome.
SnapsProvolone
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So who's going to pay to ranch them all? Millions of head. Would they be allowed to procreate and provided veterinary care? In short order this will bankrupt those with this intent.
yeah i aint pushing nothing im just trying to make it more understandable to some peoples questions
SnapsProvolone
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The only reason these animals were domesticated was to provide for us. Without this need they would be doomed to extinction.
doublejj
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Vagans have no use for animals. They aren't worth feeding. They are eating grains & drinking water we could sell to the highest bidder, animals cannot pay for their own food.
Have you ever watched the discovery channel, & seen the lions eating a buffalo alive. That kind of "animals being animals"?
Have you ever watched the discovery channel, & seen the lions eating a buffalo alive. That kind of "animals being animals"?
well if we lived ina vegan world you wouldnt need to ranch them they would just be animals,
lived how they used to per-colonization roam, do what they do be animals.
if you look at per-colonization animals did just fine. they wouldnt be extinct if they lived like a real animal should there obviously would be MILLIONS less because people are not artificially inseminating them and making them live the cycle of veal, calf, milking cow, meat product.
so yes they would be less but they would be animals who do animal things specific to their species
youre still not getting it and bit of a difference between the whole lion than a cow whos a herbivore. lions generally have free roam where they are now, so you cant really compare farm animals to a lion.
Vegans have no use to EAT , or USE animal products, that doesnt mean cows for instance wouldnt be able to be a cow and graze on grass like it should.
Saulamus
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If that was around the winter holidays, traditionally, a boar's head is thought to bring good luck in the coming year (I would guess mostly because they had meat to eat through the worst months of winter). Later, the Christian church annexed the tradition and eventually a carol and mass were included to announce the arrival of the head and carry the story of the Nativity, respectively.
Each to their own, but I'm an equal opportunity gormandizer. I will attack a salad with as much fervor as I do a perfectly seared tenderloin medallion. Probably to my health's dismay, but you have to die from something and I'd rather die gastronomically sated, than regretting that I hadn't enjoyed more bacon.
i could say the same about tempeh i could eat like 15 packages of that stuff i totally would...especially the maple flavored on i only buy it on occasion though or i would eat it all in one sitting LOL
doublejj
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we roast a pig each December...
skunkd0c
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many questions sunni 
is it ok to feed carnivorous pets meat products
i have heard it is ok to do this as these pets are not intelligent enough to choose to be vegans ?
although this viewpoint seems to convey the message that vegans feel a little but "superior" for choosing not to eat meat
i think snaps made a good point, we are above animals on the food chain , should we feel guilty for eating them ?
we know animals eat each other, which goes back to the point of "being a vegan is a "superior choice of life style"
i have seen a video where dogs are skinned alive for their coats its a horrible thing to see
but still i have no issue eating meat, perhaps this makes me a hypocrite ?
those strange situations where folk eat humans (mountain climbing gone wrong) plane crashes etc
would the human instinct to survive kick in for the vegan or would they refuse human meat and die .. i wonder
is it ok to eat road kill, since the animal is dead anyway ?
it seems that vegans have an issue eating flesh itself, or the thought of it like they develop an aversion to flesh itself
not just the fact that an animal suffered
just my thoughts, not trying to get at your or anything
is it ok to feed carnivorous pets meat products
i have heard it is ok to do this as these pets are not intelligent enough to choose to be vegans ?
although this viewpoint seems to convey the message that vegans feel a little but "superior" for choosing not to eat meat
i think snaps made a good point, we are above animals on the food chain , should we feel guilty for eating them ?
we know animals eat each other, which goes back to the point of "being a vegan is a "superior choice of life style"
i have seen a video where dogs are skinned alive for their coats its a horrible thing to see
but still i have no issue eating meat, perhaps this makes me a hypocrite ?
those strange situations where folk eat humans (mountain climbing gone wrong) plane crashes etc
would the human instinct to survive kick in for the vegan or would they refuse human meat and die .. i wonder
is it ok to eat road kill, since the animal is dead anyway ?
it seems that vegans have an issue eating flesh itself, or the thought of it like they develop an aversion to flesh itself
not just the fact that an animal suffered
just my thoughts, not trying to get at your or anything