Recycled Organic Living Soil (ROLS) and No Till Thread

[SouthernSoil*]

Only days left on these ladies, I hate waiting. I also tried my hand at making Charas. The taste is unbelievable but it takes forever and yields hardly anything. View attachment 3340216 View attachment 3340218 View attachment 3340220 View attachment 3340221

Almost there bro, damn that little chara you made looks awesome man lol, u need huge outdoor plants for charas at the end of the day to get a decent amount, bro are boveda humidipaks like silica gel packs basically ? Shit im stressing as what to do : / Harvesting my Church in 10 days, cant wait to see how she going to look then, heads seem dank and compact for a sativa dominant wow finally clean weed where i know exactly whats been put in and on. Next grow my tent is going to be a serious jungle with some seriously awesome genetics,

 

[PSUAGRO.]

Hey can someone help me out here. Looked at my plant today they got these damn spots on em. If anything I know it's some kind of deficieny, I don't feed her often.

Here are a couple pics. She was flipped on the 2nd of Dec. For age.

your tips show that their not hungry.......the patterns (veins) rule out pests..........leaning towards fungal

 

[AllDayToker]

your tips show that their not hungry.......the patterns (veins) rule out pests..........leaning towards fungal

Alright. Yeah I had two on my other thread say possible pest I was going to check my soil real good in a bit here to see if I find anything.

If it's fungal how would I go about treating?

 

[Midwest Weedist]

Almost there bro, damn that little chara you made looks awesome man lol, u need huge outdoor plants for charas at the end of the day to get a decent amount, bro are boveda humidipaks like silica gel packs basically ? Shit im stressing as what to do : / Harvesting my Church in 10 days, cant wait to see how she going to look then, heads seem dank and compact for a sativa dominant wow finally clean weed where i know exactly whats been put in and on. Next grow my tent is going to be a serious jungle with some seriously awesome genetics,

Thanks! Yeah I definitely wish I had an outdoor field so I could make Charas! That would be awesome
I believe they're just salt and water, as they can both remove and add rh to the container they're in. What I've learned is that if you use them and jar too soon, you'll have to cure longer and you may sacrifice some taste. But they're great for automating the last portion of the cure.

 

[Midwest Weedist]

I think I have it figured out, but has anyone ever lost their smell in the last leg of flowering? I'm on day 59 of a 55-65 day strain and this morning when I woke up there was almost no smell at all. Which is horrifying because these Scotts og ladies are always super strong smelling. Like walk in my house and smell them through a carbon filter strong.
I'm assuming it has to do with heat, the last couple days have been between 75-82 instead of 72-78. I've moved my light up in hopes of replicating the lack of light that occurs in fall.
Another thought I've had is that maybe it's time to harvest? I've had a northern lights lady that lost its smell completely when I flowered her a week longer than recommend, but these Scotts ogs I've always taken to 65.

 

[hyroot]

increase brix levels. Molasses / carbs. Enhances smell / flavor.

 

[foreverflyhi]

I think I have it figured out, but has anyone ever lost their smell in the last leg of flowering? I'm on day 59 of a 55-65 day strain and this morning when I woke up there was almost no smell at all. Which is horrifying because these Scotts og ladies are always super strong smelling. Like walk in my house and smell them through a carbon filter strong.
I'm assuming it has to do with heat, the last couple days have been between 75-82 instead of 72-78. I've moved my light up in hopes of replicating the lack of light that occurs in fall.
Another thought I've had is that maybe it's time to harvest? I've had a northern lights lady that lost its smell completely when I flowered her a week longer than recommend, but these Scotts ogs I've always taken to 65.

Northern light is a known strain for its low smelling profile. Also it can be because you yourself got so used to the smell. Don't worry it's there. It will come out even more after a nice dry and cure.

 

[PSUAGRO.]

Alright. Yeah I had two on my other thread say possible pest I was going to check my soil real good in a bit here to see if I find anything.

If it's fungal how would I go about treating?

If you confirm it's not pests or a def; how's the new growth look like?.............their are plenty of effective organic fungicide recipes on the web; personally I use neem/rosemary oil with a drop of organic(TJ) dish soap.

 

[Midwest Weedist]

Northern light is a known strain for its low smelling profile. Also it can be because you yourself got so used to the smell. Don't worry it's there. It will come out even more after a nice dry and cure.

I'm sure my paranoia is partially to blame, I'll find out when I go home for lunch today, but even my gf noticed it when we woke up. Usually we both wake up and give each other that look of "omg can you smell that".

 

[Midwest Weedist]

increase brix levels. Molasses / carbs. Enhances smell / flavor.

In rols notill situations, is it okay to add carbs in the last week? I'm still trying to get past the mentality of flushing. I usually give them a molasses watering once every week or two. Though it has been about that long since their last carb feeding.

 

[hyroot]

In rols notill situations, is it okay to add carbs in the last week? I'm still trying to get past the mentality of flushing. I usually give them a molasses watering once every week or two. Though it has been about that long since their last carb feeding.

I do a seed sprout tea or plain water. An sst has sugars too. With a soil mix. Even though flushing is pointless with organics. With a soil mix, watering with plain water doesn't really flush. Nutes are in the soil and there's no salt build up.

the sst is also a metabolic enhancer breaking shit down faster too

 

[Midwest Weedist]

I do a seed sprout tea or plain water. An sst has sugars too. With a soil mix. Even though flushing is pointless with organics. With a soil mix, watering with plain water doesn't really flush. Nutes are in the soil and there's no salt build up.

the sst is also a metabolic enhancer breaking shit down faster too

Thank you for clearing that up! It's hard to break free of old ideas, especially when transitioning from non Organics.
I've never bothered with an sst, from lack of knowledge. But I probably have everything I need to make an sst already. I have the hardware to aerate water and thousands of clover seeds. Could I use these seeds in say a mason jar, with carbon filtered water to sprout them? I'm familiar with the process of removing the growth inhibitors with a pre soak. But other than that I'm fairly uncertain of the specifics.

 

[hyroot]

Thank you for clearing that up! It's hard to break free of old ideas, especially when transitioning from non Organics.
I've never bothered with an sst, from lack of knowledge. But I probably have everything I need to make an sst already. I have the hardware to aerate water and thousands of clover seeds. Could I use these seeds in say a mason jar, with carbon filtered water to sprout them? I'm familiar with the process of removing the growth inhibitors with a pre soak. But other than that I'm fairly uncertain of the specifics.

I never had good experience sprouting clover seeds in water. It may be my seeds. I sprout mung beans for my sst's. @Pattahabi posted the recipe back a page or 2.

 

[DonTesla]

I think I have it figured out, but has anyone ever lost their smell in the last leg of flowering? I'm on day 59 of a 55-65 day strain and this morning when I woke up there was almost no smell at all. Which is horrifying because these Scotts og ladies are always super strong smelling. Like walk in my house and smell them through a carbon filter strong.
I'm assuming it has to do with heat, the last couple days have been between 75-82 instead of 72-78. I've moved my light up in hopes of replicating the lack of light that occurs in fall.
Another thought I've had is that maybe it's time to harvest? I've had a northern lights lady that lost its smell completely when I flowered her a week longer than recommend, but these Scotts ogs I've always taken to 65.

Got gypsum?
Negative pressure?

75* isn't hot enough to stop flowering focus (~78*)
It is hot enough to affect terpene profiles, though,
especially if the root zone isn't able to regulate the temp / cool her.

What about the inline fan and carbon filter, its on too strong?
We use dimmer switch, and keep it lowlow until room warmed up.
High once warm.
Then on to very low setting each 'night'.

And are you using a 60x scope or so, to scope the trichs?
May be cloudy (starting to degrade) or completely popping

Good luck,
thats a nice strain, mon
I'll gladly take a gram or two for volun-consulting!
haha

 

[DonTesla]

increase brix levels. Molasses / carbs. Enhances smell / flavor.

brix be bit of a medium-rare topic these days
..no sugar daddy, just a sugar situation, lol

"Increase the brix level in your garden. The result will be healthier plants, less insect pressure, better taste, better nutrition, and a longer shelf life"

i remember the brix game, for pc, such a good puzzle game.
both chicks and brix, every lunch, both 5th grade, and 6th. haha
classic.

 

[SouthernSoil*]

Thanks! Yeah I definitely wish I had an outdoor field so I could make Charas! That would be awesome
I believe they're just salt and water, as they can both remove and add rh to the container they're in. What I've learned is that if you use them and jar too soon, you'll have to cure longer and you may sacrifice some taste. But they're great for automating the last portion of the cure.

Would be really awesome, ive seen how people make it but probably never even smoked the real thing, okay i see what you mean bro, so no possible way of using a clean baggie thats tightly sealed and making my own ? Dont think they sell boveda packs on this side of the world, ill have to do more intense googling & calling though. I wouldnt want to sacrifice taste though, how long after ive harvested and dried would you recommend though bro ? Respect

 

[SouthernSoil*]

Brilliant info Don, always appreciate your detailed explanations, makes alot of sense though, i guess some strains are more tolerant to heat during the flowering stages but some that are used to flowering in more colder temperate climates tend to not like it.

Very keen to get two dimmer switches on a thermostat for my next run though, DIY mission, one dimmer on high one on low or even better a thermostat that can automatically dim and heighten the speed of the fan by %.

To increase your brix level does this mean that you need more diverse organic material in the garden? Respect bro

 

[st0wandgrow]

Brilliant info Don, always appreciate your detailed explanations, makes alot of sense though, i guess some strains are more tolerant to heat during the flowering stages but some that are used to flowering in more colder temperate climates tend to not like it.

Very keen to get two dimmer switches on a thermostat for my next run though, DIY mission, one dimmer on high one on low or even better a thermostat that can automatically dim and heighten the speed of the fan by %.

To increase your brix level does this mean that you need more diverse organic material in the garden? Respect bro

Brix levels are simply a measurement of dissolved solids in the sap/fluid of the plant. The more dissolved solids, the higher the brix reading. From what I've read you want to go pretty heavy on minerals to achieve these elevated numbers. Rock fines, kelp meal, azomite, etc. These minerals can be applied to the soil (and take quite some time to be processed and taken up by the plant) or can be applied via foliar. IMO you hear people talking about how the soil "gets better" as it ages.... this is simply a function of the mineral content not being bio-available in the first run of a no-till, and becoming more and more available in subsequent runs.

 

[AllDayToker]

If you confirm it's not pests or a def; how's the new growth look like?.............their are plenty of effective organic fungicide recipes on the web; personally I use neem/rosemary oil with a drop of organic(TJ) dish soap.

So how much neem oil and rosemary oil do you use per gallon?

 

[DonTesla]

So how much neem oil and rosemary oil do you use per gallon?

I use ~50 drops neem oil per 750 ml spray bottle and one drop of soap...
that can foliar over 20 plants and a dawg still tosses some out..

Rosemary is a bonus