Who has the better breeders - Europe or USA
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gunnar&carey
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I grow from clone so i dont kno about the seeds but ill tell u that the usa has better everything srry to break it to ya
mofucka
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mofucka
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America... Fuck yeah
Land of the free ... If you white middle class(and up) christian
Btw op. Idk who is better
But you know gotta hold it down for my country
old shol4evr
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ain't nothing if it not USA ,only disadvantage we got it is not federally legal ,when it is the other countries won't have a chance ,we got bad ass breeders and growers here ,you better believe that
churchhaze
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Europe created a lot of the best strains.
That could be because they had more time at it though.
That could be because they had more time at it though.
Diabolical666
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.....next time you should start a controversial thread :
Geronimo420
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USA.....Amsterdam got their actual genetic in the mid 80's from America in the past they were more into Schwag than anything
unwine99
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Lol shoulda saw the whole nationalist thing coming but it just seems like there is a lot of this x this x this x this x this x this x this x this x this x this x ? x ? x ? x this and that ............ kind of strains in the USA but maybe it's just because I live here and see the genetic freaks up close and personal.
unwine99
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Wouldn't want to alienate your future clientele!
Geronimo420
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The legal situation in UK allow them to operate more freely. In America it`s easier to get clones from a dispensary. The best seeds in the USA are pass from friend to friend.
Thanks to the Netherlands, our Euro brethren developed a head start on the open market, however, I'd argue that the U.S. medical program closed that gap long ago, but in a closed market instead. Now that legalization exists for recreational purposes in the U.S., I'd imagine the gap will close in the open market as well.
And now Jamaica looks like it's finally going to get in the mix, which will make things very interesting indeed.
Sativied
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Yeah lol you shoulda. The obvious reality is that there are bad breeders on both sides, and probably a couple of good on both too. But what's the fun in that...
Ah fuck it, let's add some fuel:
- NL = IBLs and a couple of real breeders and a lot of wannabees (which yes do originate from US breeders yet unfortunately says nothing about the state of breeding in the US today), haze brothers for haze, Indian for Northern Light, Sam for Skunk, but also read: http://www.olded.nl/Old Ed geschiedenis.html (english crappy translation available) a lot of work has been done on those.
- Rest of Europe (which is mostly spain in this context, not much else) crosses those (wise choice) or simply breeds them in for another generation and sell them as their own creation.
- Popular strains in the US are based on bag seeds from mostly Dutch IBLs...
Most popular and common strains go back to Skunk #1 (short flowering time), O Haze (sativa high), Northern Light (frosty psychedelic), Afghani (chunky calyxes), and a few other classics, available at Sensi Seeds. The stuff I used to smoke and sell as a teenanger. Many of those "this x this x this x this x this x this x this x this x this x this x ? x ? x ? x this and that" offer a much more enjoyable smoke but that doesn't mean being a better breeder.
That last thing, 99.99%+ of the consumers in this industry doesn't even know what a "better breeder" entails.
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churchhaze
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Did Power Plant come from US breeders originally?
Sativied
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Growing MJ was never legal here. Selling seeds, and 5gram per day per person is. We for decades have grown in small closets, attics and humid basements, always hiding from the cops, risking a raid every moment. Many small growers, and also small breeders, some of the popular ones have surprisingly small rooms. Space is a major limitation here, something that's usually not the case in the US.
So yeah, I definitely expect the US to close a gap (if it even exists, consider this a more serious reply
) over a short period of time. That won't be done by many of the self-proclaimed pollenchuckers in the US though, but by a couple of professionals. Modern breeding = applied genetics.
Many of the breeding practices I see are acceptable in the US are totally unacceptable here.
Finding a male and chucking its pollen on all popular clones does not make a breeder. It's not like with horses and cows where it's all about the male's sperm. I know first hand from several breeders in the US that is how they operate. New ones pop up frequently.
Intersex traits are not acceptable (GHS is far more popular here than in the local forums).
Breeding with feminized seeds is not acceptable.
Crossing two F1s from someone else and call it breeding is not acceptable.
In many ways that's taken way too far, as if breeding is something people should leave to uhm... breeders who have been doing it for a decade already. Point is, we certainly seem to be more demanding over here which may have a positive effect simply for giving posers less chance.
Sativied
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Created by Dutch Passion.