Would you vote to legal this abomination in America?
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ghostdriver
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that's*
WeedFreak78
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If you didn't bring religion into the conversation I might have voted, seeing how it's impossible to have a rational conversation involving religion.
Harrekin
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The big question is (as always) why does something in someone else's life which will never affect your life bother you?
Jimdamick
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I think it has to do with this thing called humanity, versus ambivalence. The former is inconvenient and requires effort, while the latter so much easier, just do nothing. Emotion is a pain in the ass, it's much easier to be numb
Doer
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This is the same as burning Astronomers at the Stake. Science marches on. And you can postulated there is a God to offend and you can postulate that you know what is offensive to which God, since Muslims see it differently.
But, this just makes you a postulater. Ewww....do us a favor and bath.
AlecTheGardener
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I hope your grandchildren are conceved this way.
i vote no.
there already is a movie (Never Let Me Go) on with bit of a creepy spin:
On-screen captions explain that a medical breakthrough in 1952 has permitted the human lifespan to be extended beyond 100 years. This cuts to a young man (Andrew Garfield) lying on an operating table and smiling at a woman observing from the other side of the glass window. The woman is 28-year-old Kathy H (Carey Mulligan), the narrator. She reminisces about her childhood at a boarding school called Hailsham, as well as her adult life after leaving the school. The first act of the film depicts the young Kathy (Izzy Meikle-Small), along with her friends Tommy (Charlie Rowe) and Ruth (Ella Purnell), spending their childhood at Hailsham in the late 1970s. The school is strange; students are encouraged to create artwork instead of learning science and mathematics normal for school children. Their best work gets into "the Gallery" run by a mysterious woman known only as Madame (Nathalie Richard). One day, a new teacher, Miss Lucy (Sally Hawkins) quietly informs the students of their nature: they exist only as organ donors for transplants, and will die - or, rather, "complete" - in their early adulthood. She is shortly afterward sacked by the headmistress (Charlotte Rampling) for telling this to the students. As time passes, Kathy and Tommy develop feelings for one another, but Tommy falls into a relationship with Ruth.
In the second act of the film, the three friends, now 18, are rehoused in cottages on a farm. They are permitted to leave the grounds on day trips, but are still resigned to their eventual fate. At the farm, they meet former pupils of other schools. Two of these students see a woman in a nearby town whom they believe to be a "possible" for Ruth - the person she was cloned from. Ruth is ecstatic at the prospect, but when she, Kathy, Tommy, and the other students travel to the coast to re-examine the woman, it turns out there is very little resemblance. Ruth, bitter and disillusioned, rages that all donors are "modelled on trash", meaning that they are cloned from the people lowest in society, such as prostitutes and criminals.
From the others, Kathy and her friends hear rumors of the possibility of "deferral" – a temporary reprieve from organ donation for donors who are in love and can somehow prove it. Tommy becomes convinced that the Gallery at Hailsham was intended to look into their souls and that artwork sent to the Gallery will be able to verify true love. The relationship between Tommy and Ruth becomes sexual, putting a strain on Kathy's friendships with the two. Kathy, feeling the need to distance herself, leaves the cottages to become a "carer" – a clone who is given a temporary reprieve from donation to do the job of supporting and comforting donors. Tommy and Ruth break up shortly before Kathy leaves.
In the third and final act of the film, ten years later, Kathy is working as a carer and has not seen Ruth or Tommy since the cottages. While working as a carer, Kathy happens to meet Ruth again, who is frail after two donations. They find Tommy, who is also weakened, and the three of them drive to the sea at Ruth's request. There, Ruth asks for their forgiveness for keeping them apart. She admits she has always known that Kathy and Tommy were meant to be together; Ruth was with Tommy because she was jealous of his closeness to Kathy and afraid to be "left alone". She claims she has found a means to put things right: she has found Madame's address and believes it is she who gives out the deferrals to couples in love. Though reluctant at first, Kathy eventually agrees to give it a try. Shortly afterward, Ruth dies on the operating table during her third donation.
Kathy and Tommy finally begin a relationship, though Tommy is weak from his donations. Tommy explains to Kathy that he has been creating art as an adult in the hope that it will convince Madame to give them a deferral. He and Kathy drive to visit Madame, who lives with the now-retired headmistress of Hailsham. The two teachers sympathetically tell them that there have never been any such deferrals. They also explain that the purpose of the Gallery was not to look into their souls, but to determine if they had souls at all. Hailsham had been, in fact, the last remaining place to consider the ethical implications of the donor programme. After Kathy and Tommy have left, Tommy asks Kathy to stop the car to let him out and breaks down in a fit of rage and frustration. Kathy consoles him and the two cry in each other's arms. The movie returns to the first shot: Tommy is being anaesthetised on the operating table for what would be his last organ donation, while looking and smiling at Kathy who is standing on the other side of the glass window.
The film ends with Kathy still living, but knowing that her organ donations will begin in one month.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Never_Let_Me_Go_(2010_film)
there already is a movie (Never Let Me Go) on with bit of a creepy spin:
On-screen captions explain that a medical breakthrough in 1952 has permitted the human lifespan to be extended beyond 100 years. This cuts to a young man (Andrew Garfield) lying on an operating table and smiling at a woman observing from the other side of the glass window. The woman is 28-year-old Kathy H (Carey Mulligan), the narrator. She reminisces about her childhood at a boarding school called Hailsham, as well as her adult life after leaving the school. The first act of the film depicts the young Kathy (Izzy Meikle-Small), along with her friends Tommy (Charlie Rowe) and Ruth (Ella Purnell), spending their childhood at Hailsham in the late 1970s. The school is strange; students are encouraged to create artwork instead of learning science and mathematics normal for school children. Their best work gets into "the Gallery" run by a mysterious woman known only as Madame (Nathalie Richard). One day, a new teacher, Miss Lucy (Sally Hawkins) quietly informs the students of their nature: they exist only as organ donors for transplants, and will die - or, rather, "complete" - in their early adulthood. She is shortly afterward sacked by the headmistress (Charlotte Rampling) for telling this to the students. As time passes, Kathy and Tommy develop feelings for one another, but Tommy falls into a relationship with Ruth.
In the second act of the film, the three friends, now 18, are rehoused in cottages on a farm. They are permitted to leave the grounds on day trips, but are still resigned to their eventual fate. At the farm, they meet former pupils of other schools. Two of these students see a woman in a nearby town whom they believe to be a "possible" for Ruth - the person she was cloned from. Ruth is ecstatic at the prospect, but when she, Kathy, Tommy, and the other students travel to the coast to re-examine the woman, it turns out there is very little resemblance. Ruth, bitter and disillusioned, rages that all donors are "modelled on trash", meaning that they are cloned from the people lowest in society, such as prostitutes and criminals.
From the others, Kathy and her friends hear rumors of the possibility of "deferral" – a temporary reprieve from organ donation for donors who are in love and can somehow prove it. Tommy becomes convinced that the Gallery at Hailsham was intended to look into their souls and that artwork sent to the Gallery will be able to verify true love. The relationship between Tommy and Ruth becomes sexual, putting a strain on Kathy's friendships with the two. Kathy, feeling the need to distance herself, leaves the cottages to become a "carer" – a clone who is given a temporary reprieve from donation to do the job of supporting and comforting donors. Tommy and Ruth break up shortly before Kathy leaves.
In the third and final act of the film, ten years later, Kathy is working as a carer and has not seen Ruth or Tommy since the cottages. While working as a carer, Kathy happens to meet Ruth again, who is frail after two donations. They find Tommy, who is also weakened, and the three of them drive to the sea at Ruth's request. There, Ruth asks for their forgiveness for keeping them apart. She admits she has always known that Kathy and Tommy were meant to be together; Ruth was with Tommy because she was jealous of his closeness to Kathy and afraid to be "left alone". She claims she has found a means to put things right: she has found Madame's address and believes it is she who gives out the deferrals to couples in love. Though reluctant at first, Kathy eventually agrees to give it a try. Shortly afterward, Ruth dies on the operating table during her third donation.
Kathy and Tommy finally begin a relationship, though Tommy is weak from his donations. Tommy explains to Kathy that he has been creating art as an adult in the hope that it will convince Madame to give them a deferral. He and Kathy drive to visit Madame, who lives with the now-retired headmistress of Hailsham. The two teachers sympathetically tell them that there have never been any such deferrals. They also explain that the purpose of the Gallery was not to look into their souls, but to determine if they had souls at all. Hailsham had been, in fact, the last remaining place to consider the ethical implications of the donor programme. After Kathy and Tommy have left, Tommy asks Kathy to stop the car to let him out and breaks down in a fit of rage and frustration. Kathy consoles him and the two cry in each other's arms. The movie returns to the first shot: Tommy is being anaesthetised on the operating table for what would be his last organ donation, while looking and smiling at Kathy who is standing on the other side of the glass window.
The film ends with Kathy still living, but knowing that her organ donations will begin in one month.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Never_Let_Me_Go_(2010_film)
desert dude
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The point of this scientific menage a trois is to cure mitochondrial diseases, which are quite nasty. If two people are intent on having children and momma carries a mitochondrial defect, then this (get some functional mitochondria from a third person) seems to me to be quite a good idea.
Were it me, I would simply choose not to have children, but some people are masochistic.
Were it me, I would simply choose not to have children, but some people are masochistic.
Harrekin
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They're delicious, but I couldn't eat a whole one.
Doer
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Eat? A whole Baby? hoot mon, one of them little drum sticks is all I ever need.
AlecTheGardener
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Jerked baby legs, de-lish.
whitebb2727
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I would agree with you normally.
Humans make mistakes. When you screw with DNA what happens when a bad mistake is made?
A disease, mutation or something of the sort that might effect me.
AlecTheGardener
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Similar to humans exposed to radiation, we do not disallow these people from procreating. Genetic mutation from irritated parents could end our entire species potentially.
Rob Roy
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You get extra points for working menage a trois into your post.
Harrekin
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Nature makes mistakes too.
If a person consents to a treatment then I don't care what they do.