Pinworm
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I'm sorry, but that just doesn't make any sense.
Am I Right To Start Flushing Now?
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Lysergicpt
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probably too you , it makes total sense to me.
But we all have diferent opinions , and thats the way it should be.
chuck estevez
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My opinion is you don't know how nutrients work, if you did, you would have a different opinion, Did you know all plants use organic and inorganic nutrients? Did you know the plant doesn't know the difference?
chuck estevez
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the nutes are keeping them alive so the buds can continue to swell. If your plants are dead and not still taking nutrients, then what does putting a bunch of water in do for 'em?
blimey
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The buds don't continue to grow the entire time the plant is alive is my point, if you don't harvest, they don't just keep getting bigger. Not using base nutes for a week does not kill your plant lol.
As the guy that wrote the truth about flushing even said in that thread, the plants draw nutrients out of the fan leaves causing them to yellow while leaving the buds unaffected.
As the guy that wrote the truth about flushing even said in that thread, the plants draw nutrients out of the fan leaves causing them to yellow while leaving the buds unaffected.
dbdweller
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Should you flush or not?
Some of many reasons why<
First and foremost NO CHEMICALS. When you flush you do so many things.
1. You take away the build up that has accumulated in the roots.
2. The plant starts to take in what chemicals are still residing in the roots and stalk,branches and leaves.
3. You are not smoking chemicals or ingesting them. Nice clean white ash to me is the tell tale sign. Better for your lungs.
4. Some patients have reactions to edibles that still have high traces of some chemicals. This reacts to medication they are already on.
I mean the list goes on and it is always a growers preference. It saves you some money in food if your doing large grows and if you think about it. Flushing is always a good answer to a lot of plant issues right. To much nuts flush well or what ever.
To me the MAIN REASON IS THE TASTE. I want to taste the true plant. but once again this is one stoners opinion only. Comes down to it chemicals or no chemicals i am going to burn it lol
Some of many reasons why<
First and foremost NO CHEMICALS. When you flush you do so many things.
1. You take away the build up that has accumulated in the roots.
2. The plant starts to take in what chemicals are still residing in the roots and stalk,branches and leaves.
3. You are not smoking chemicals or ingesting them. Nice clean white ash to me is the tell tale sign. Better for your lungs.
4. Some patients have reactions to edibles that still have high traces of some chemicals. This reacts to medication they are already on.
I mean the list goes on and it is always a growers preference. It saves you some money in food if your doing large grows and if you think about it. Flushing is always a good answer to a lot of plant issues right. To much nuts flush well or what ever.
To me the MAIN REASON IS THE TASTE. I want to taste the true plant. but once again this is one stoners opinion only. Comes down to it chemicals or no chemicals i am going to burn it lol
AlecTheGardener
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That's a trick question, I don't know if anyone smoke any fruits or vegetables, perhaps over a hickory smoker, not from a pipe. You make the apple into the pipe, I have never seen someone try to smoke the apple.
Let's try this instead:
Tobacco.
It goes through a curing process similar but longer then cannabis, no snap crackle or pop there like some people claim unleached plants result in. If you cure a product you smoke, it becomes delicious and more flavorful THROUGH CURING.
Leaching is a myth perpetuated by uninformed hobby 'horticulturalists.' It is only useful to correct grower error.
Can you name a major crop that is farmed that requires leaching?
What vegetables? I will setup a veggie experiment this summer with a few dozen plants. Let's setup a double blind taste test, choose a crop that grows in area 9b.
If the grower didn't over fertilize then there should not be a buildup of salts in the growing medium.Should you flush or not?
Some of many reasons why<
First and foremost NO CHEMICALS. When you flush you do so many things.
1. You take away the build up that has accumulated in the roots.
2. The plant starts to take in what chemicals are still residing in the roots and stalk,branches and leaves.
3. You are not smoking chemicals or ingesting them. Nice clean white ash to me is the tell tale sign. Better for your lungs.
4. Some patients have reactions to edibles that still have high traces of some chemicals. This reacts to medication they are already on.
I mean the list goes on and it is always a growers preference. It saves you some money in food if your doing large grows and if you think about it. Flushing is always a good answer to a lot of plant issues right. To much nuts flush well or what ever.
To me the MAIN REASON IS THE TASTE. I want to taste the true plant. but once again this is one stoners opinion only. Comes down to it chemicals or no chemicals i am going to burn it lol
My wife just finished curing her first plant, an AutoBlueberry. She used synthetic fertilizers, we fed until the last watering about three days before chop. The ash from her plants flowers look like the ash from my water only organic soil flowers. Why does ash color have to do with anything anyways? What does ash color mean?
What medications? I don't want to harm anyone, but I am not understanding any science behind your statement about patients being effected by 'high traces of chemicals.' What chemicals specifically? Aside from pesticides and other purposely sprayed poisons what chemicals can cause a reaction like that?
blimey
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Oh for sure that was a BS question, in response to a bullshit question.
My point is that I think we can all agree that more nutrients does not equal more bud, and longer duration does not equal more bud.
If not please inform me why.
If those two statements are true, there is a period where the bud has stopped growing and adding more nutrients will not give you more bud. Make sense?
My reasoning is after this point, why keep adding nutrients?
And I keep a much closer eye on and take much better care of my plants than the commercial tobacco industry does.
Edit:
About the health problems, it makes a difference in cancer and other patients with a weak immune system. This is the exact reason why people grow veganic instead of just organic, they don't want any animal products potentially compromising a patient's immune system, synthetic chemicals are worse.
My point is that I think we can all agree that more nutrients does not equal more bud, and longer duration does not equal more bud.
If not please inform me why.
If those two statements are true, there is a period where the bud has stopped growing and adding more nutrients will not give you more bud. Make sense?
My reasoning is after this point, why keep adding nutrients?
And I keep a much closer eye on and take much better care of my plants than the commercial tobacco industry does.
Edit:
About the health problems, it makes a difference in cancer and other patients with a weak immune system. This is the exact reason why people grow veganic instead of just organic, they don't want any animal products potentially compromising a patient's immune system, synthetic chemicals are worse.
Lysergicpt
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I didn't said leaching , i just said i dont use any salt based fertlizer near chop date. its a totatlly diferent thing , about that question about area 9b , i dont really know what that means , i live in europe , its diferrent :X about the vegetables , for example lets say spinach , if you fertelize 1 week before chop , when you boil your water becomes green as hell , and you notice in taste that it have a a more "acidic" taste.
Lysergicpt
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off course plant dont know the difference , and that means ? i'm talking about the final result to your taste .. i dont really know who to respond to that :X thats just a silly observation . With today's technology , i can give you a Stawberry juice that has no strawberry in it .. soo are you trying to say if you dont know the diference theres is no diference ?
another example a carrot takes 2 to 3 months to be ready for harvest , with chemical fedding to carrots you can grow a carrot in 1 month lets say , but the final results ? ohh my friend , its huge , some people dont even know what is to eat quality vegetables.
My opinion , is that you stick your understanding of agriculture to cannabis , but cannabis is just a weed like any other , you dont need any special degree to grow it , i have grown in a farm and i have the previlege to know the diference of an organic vegetable and a chemical grow vegetable , some people dont even have a clue.
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AlecTheGardener
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Agreed, there is certainly a point where inputs will not equal increased vigor/yield/desirable results. It takes only a handful of hours for transpiration to cycle the moisture that is within the plant. Why do anything but two days of leaching if that is the case?
Artisan tobacco growers and cigar makers have been doing it the same way for hundreds of years, they DO NOT LEACH. Why would they? All the flavor comes from well ripened harvest and a lengthy curing process.
Citation needed.
Citation needed.
Curious. I just harvested some kale and collards this morning, they were fed with synthetic fertilizers last week on Wednesday. Tasted DELICIOUS.
chuck estevez
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chuck estevez
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Plants makes starch/glucose for food,How does flushing remove chems from buds?
chuck estevez
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YES THEY DO, if it isn't growing in size, it is bulking up on thc and other cannabanoids
see pretty pics above
AlecTheGardener
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The heads man! They swell!
blimey
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I don't usually leach for more than a week which at the end is only a couple waterings, but like I said, it all depends on how the plant is responding to the nutes, my super lemon haze I cut last month leached for two weeks because the buds weren't growing and the trichs weren't changing. You can't really have set rules for this stuff, every plant is different and will respond different.
Why don't you leach? All I see is you saying that other people don't do it so you don't either, at least do your own experiment.
And I still haven't seen anybody post a reason to keep adding base nutes after the buds stop growing, which is all I'm saying not to do.
blimey
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If they are still swelling it's too early. When they are swollen and you have the option to harvest but you want it riper is when you leach.
