earthling420
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Buildasoil sells gypsum...Not sure if thats what you lookin for
Damn Tesla that really simplifies things, Im stoked!
Recycled Organic Living Soil (ROLS) and No Till Thread
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Damn Tesla that really simplifies things, Im stoked!
earthling420
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fuck ya that is nice man.I love that were talking about a subject I can really dig into. LED fo' life.
The obvious perk is how much less you draw for the same output (given quality emitters), but some people don't understand how nice this is- if I wasn't LED I wouldn't be able to grow or would have to move up to a 20 or 30 amp breaker, and may not given the high wattage on my bill.
My whole system runs under 1400w, veg and flower perpetually, clone room and climate control/pumps/etc.
And 800+ of that is a heater/CA
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DonTesla
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Thats mad awesome
You bet, homie, one can leave the solar system through a worm hole in your throat or realize youre dreaming day and or night..
an awareness shift or paradigm shift is not only powerful to the core, but eye opening forever after, and thats why i say a point 2 can be deeply life altering and changing.. It'll change your frequency forever, forget frequently..
Herb or mushrooms or deem, all are made of earth in a sense, is ot not so? Also, interesting isn't it, all come with custom receptors that co evolved within us..
Why else do we have so called "dreams" made of dmt and have CBD receptors in our brain, blood, organs, and lymph system..
Maybe something's up...
Perhaps both are kinds of realities and both are kinds of dreams, and both can be manipulated much faster when? When you realize it's... Just a dream aka a "manipulatable virtual reality" with its own laws and forces and densities.. When realized, That's what we call lucidity,
But if you look up,the root meaning of lucid, in Latin, it means to shine, be bright, lucidus, stem of light..
Don't fall for the propaganda..
Unturned stones reveal unrealized realities
You sound like a cool cat, I look forward to your leaps..
Just wait til hear about some of our other trips (salvia etc.. They are so wild and mind bending, we should start a thread hey?)
Midwest Weedist
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I noticed the led talk, obviously this isn't the forum, but can someone help answer my question?
I've run into a future problem with the heat from my 600 watt and only having a 15 amp circuit to run everything in my apartment aside from the kitchen on. We have no central air so when summer gets here, I'm mostly fucked to try and run a 5000btu airconditioner plus 600 watt hps, 100 watts in centrifugal fans, my gaming computer, TV, and all of my girlfriends hair appliances.
So, is the hype about the lack of heat with the upper models (I've been suggested to look at Apache and Area 51) true? If so I'm going to feel stupid for buying a 600 watt kit then turning around and buying an led, but if it keeps me from having to stop my hobby, so be it. I'll get a second job before I quit growing
I've run into a future problem with the heat from my 600 watt and only having a 15 amp circuit to run everything in my apartment aside from the kitchen on. We have no central air so when summer gets here, I'm mostly fucked to try and run a 5000btu airconditioner plus 600 watt hps, 100 watts in centrifugal fans, my gaming computer, TV, and all of my girlfriends hair appliances.
So, is the hype about the lack of heat with the upper models (I've been suggested to look at Apache and Area 51) true? If so I'm going to feel stupid for buying a 600 watt kit then turning around and buying an led, but if it keeps me from having to stop my hobby, so be it. I'll get a second job before I quit growing
a senile fungus
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CMH is another tech that is very low heat. They're still HID, but produce much more usable light then heat. I feel like HPS just pumps out IR all the time...
foreverflyhi
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Lol man this thread really blew up!
Ok so let's not side track on the organics and led. I think we should start a led/organic thread here in the organic section. (Bad idea to start in led section, too much bottle minded fools that will ruin it) I nominate @SupraSPL , I knw he is a busy dude, but ill make sure he does it! Give him a couple days, I think it's a perfect idea to help those get started, and get us led organic growers to show off, and spread our knowledge on both subjects. These two subjects go toghther because of our nature of efficiency, sustainability, and love for clean organic smoke. Man I'm fucking excited !!! Got all sorts of pics to share! Once again, let's give it a couple days. "If we build it, they will come" -al bundy
Ok so let's not side track on the organics and led. I think we should start a led/organic thread here in the organic section. (Bad idea to start in led section, too much bottle minded fools that will ruin it) I nominate @SupraSPL , I knw he is a busy dude, but ill make sure he does it! Give him a couple days, I think it's a perfect idea to help those get started, and get us led organic growers to show off, and spread our knowledge on both subjects. These two subjects go toghther because of our nature of efficiency, sustainability, and love for clean organic smoke. Man I'm fucking excited !!! Got all sorts of pics to share! Once again, let's give it a couple days. "If we build it, they will come" -al bundy
a senile fungus
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In the meantime the organic show and tell thread could use some LED pics and such...
SupraSPL
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Hell yea Organic + LED thread sounds good, both good opportunity for DIY also. We should welcome the org and LED haters too as long as they are willing to have a genuine discussion. Some growers like @churchhaze have hella knowledge about chem ferts, which I think is very important if you are going to go that route. I think of organics as a safer choice for beginners if they want badass results right away. Also, I am very interested in the resilience mindset, knowledge of high efficiency organic method could come in handy in a zombie apocalypse or similar 
Regarding CMH, the SPD is impresssive except, the gigantor spike at 825nm that they normally don't show, that is pure radiant heat beamed into the canopy and the nugs.
according to Rives from IC:
"this is the spd chart for the Agro that came out of Gavita's testing".
Regarding CMH, the SPD is impresssive except, the gigantor spike at 825nm that they normally don't show, that is pure radiant heat beamed into the canopy and the nugs.
according to Rives from IC:
"this is the spd chart for the Agro that came out of Gavita's testing".
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a senile fungus
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I wonder if there is any third party testing of the 315w CDM ED37 4200k that I use...
That's interesting because the x axis on most of my graphs stops around 750 or so... Either way, these do radiate minimal heat, but its very pleasant. I think I'm not depressed this winter because of my CMH in the basement lol
That's interesting because the x axis on most of my graphs stops around 750 or so... Either way, these do radiate minimal heat, but its very pleasant. I think I'm not depressed this winter because of my CMH in the basement lol
greasemonkeymann
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PRECISELY why i'm looking at them, that and I know most of your guys are some smart cats... and if its what you prefer then maybe I need to check em out.
But I need to replace my ballasts soon too. got some hrs on em... Well one of them is relatively fresh...
still though
st0wandgrow
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Right on bro! I appreciate the offer!
My wifes father has 15 acres and has a couple horses, and about a half dozen Llamas as well. Sounds great right? Well, he is a conservative old fart and would throw a fucking fit if he knew we were growing, so I can only really hit him up for poop once a year in the spring time for our "veggie garden". If I came to him right now and asked for some he would know something is up. I wouldn't mind telling him that we grow, but the wife doesn't want to deal with him acting like a 10 year old, so.....
PSUAGRO.
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Hell yea Organic + LED thread sounds good, both good opportunity for DIY also. We should welcome the org and LED haters too as long as they are willing to have a genuine discussion. Some growers like @churchhaze have hella knowledge about chem ferts, which I think is very important if you are going to go that route. I think of organics as a safer choice for beginners if they want badass results right away. Also, I am very interested in the resilience mindset, knowledge of high efficiency organic method could come in handy in a zombie apocalypse or similar
Regarding CMH, the SPD is impresssive except, the gigantor spike at 825nm that they normally don't show, that is pure radiant heat beamed into the canopy and the nugs.
according to Rives from IC:
"this is the spd chart for the Agro that came out of Gavita's testing".
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holy shit..............never seen the full spd before..............naughty philips
still at almost 2 ppf/w== not a bad low wattage bulb
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greasemonkeymann
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my issue with the CMH is that it doesn't produce nearly as much lumens.
Don't get me wrong I LOVE using MHs with my HPSs when I flower though.
Midwest Weedist
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I've been seeing people rave about cmh bulbs more frequently now. I haven't read too much up on them but it seems like it could be an option. Any idea what kind of ballasts run them 100% safely?
I have also heard what greasemonkey said about the lumens a few times.
Yes!! I've been wondering for a few months now if someone could do that. That would be a sanctuary to me.
PSUAGRO.
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315w elite agros as seen above^^ run only on specific digi ballasts(cerametek/philips)
205w/330w/860w allstarts run only on magnetic MH ballasts 250w/400w/1000w
400w retrowhite (discontinued/ but can be found for cheap) run only on a 400w magnetic hps ballast.
don't recommend GE/Osram's cmh bulbs, as none are open fixture rated....that I know of?
generally intensity trumps spectrum .........but quality goes up with a ceramic/halide arc vs hps
Edit: important shit I forgot to add because of my craptacular smart phone
The 315w elite agro's digi ballasts only run on 240v, step-up transformer can be used for 120v like sun systems lec fixture at an efficiency loss.
The 860w philips allstart bulb is vertical position only, 205w/330w are universal. All of them will fire on either pulse/probe start MH magnetic ballast=== hence the name
The discontinued retrowhites have a hort/vert position specific bulb......it's in the code # when ordering.
All philips cmh bulbs are primarily designed for a vertical position, running them horizontal will cause a slight spectral shift and marginally faster lumen depreciation.
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Midwest Weedist
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Interesting stuff. I need to do some reading.
DonTesla
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Love dat.
Thermal imaging of a DIY LED..
Bout ten inches away from tops at the moment and starting to get bit curious if 8 inches is possible..
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earthling420
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Hell ya man. Dawg you blowing my mind again. I read all that multiple times im bout to think about it while I vape some more, that should help... oh ya.
That's what I've read and heard too, changed forever... pretty cool. But I see your point, so little, yet so unforgettable.
Definitely natural, nature ftw!
I don't believe for one second that we weren'tmeant to consume these trtreasures.
What I do think is cool is what you're saying about the lucid reality. Ive often thought this stuff is so awesome for opening up our third eye to the things we need/ should see for whatever reason, maybe a higher power or the matrix lol
Don't worry brotha, no fluoride in my
toothpaste lol propaganda doesn't fool me.
Latin is some cool stuff, that coincidence though! lol crazy!
Thanks homie, I appreciate the kind words. I'm excited too and excited to share em after all the help from RIU and you guys.
Holy hell mate.lol A thread for that sounds like winner!
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