cali connection blackwater...boo!

kgp

kgp

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rory420420 said:
My point is,you don't think swerve made mendo purps,or the sfvog Larry cut do you? No he acquired cuts,but bred half assed..he's got good genetic selection,don't get that wrong..the blackwater IS fire..
But,not stable.
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Most breeders use cuts that they acquire. I guess I just don't get your reason. His genetics are good, but the breeding is not?

If swerve, you, or I make an s1 SFV, it would be the same results. Genetics don't know what dousche or stand up guy breeds with them.

If you acquired any of the same genetics and bread a similar line. Og x OG, with the end results aiming for an og from seed stock, you too would have unstable hermie prone seeds. Fact

What swerve did is try and produce seeds that would produce an og plant. There is no such a breeder that has done so that can produce produce what the masses want and call it of og and stable in the same description. Fact

I get it that he's a dousche bag from hell. I get the fact that the seeds are unstable and hermie prone.

But if you want og from seed, because you can't get a real cut your options are slim to none. The few that are doing it can't keep packs available. Swerve made money hand over fist and the keepers that are found far and few between blow most crosses out of the water.

I beleive one should study the genetics before growing them. Then the packs wouldn't need a warning or disclaimer, because you would have already known what your getting yourself into.

In know way am I sticking up for swerve. I don't like the guy.

I admit, one of my best seed plants have been from Cali connect. Tahoe og. Super fire. I also admit some of the shittiest plants I've ever grown were from the same pack.

If you want stable the line has to be worked, inbred, or back crossed by two homogeneous f1s or landrace.

I have a pocket full of money for anyone willing to do so. And don't tell me loompa, because even the f3's produce many different phenos, none of which is like the loompas headband.
 
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althor

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^ Yeah, say whatever you want about Swerve, and I am sure most of it is true, but for those of us not living in a state that you can run down the street and pick up a clone, Tahoe OG is the best alternative I have come across.
 
King Arthur

King Arthur

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kgp said:
There is no such a breeder that has done so that can produce produce what the masses want and call it of og and stable in the same description. Fact
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You are a great guy with good information but don't go using fact when you can't prove it. Regardless of your rebuttle you can't prove your claim.

I dig all your work but lets keep shit 100% here.
 
rory420420

rory420420

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kgp said:
Most breeders use cuts that they acquire. I guess I just don't get your reason. His genetics are good, but the breeding is not?

If swerve, you, or I make an s1 SFV, it would be the same results. Genetics don't know what dousche or stand up guy breeds with them.

If you acquired any of the same genetics and bread a similar line. Og x OG, with the end results aiming for an og from seed stock, you too would have unstable hermie prone seeds. Fact

What swerve did is try and produce seeds that would produce an og plant. There is no such a breeder that has done so that can produce produce what the masses want and call it of og and stable in the same description. Fact

I get it that he's a dousche bag from hell. I get the fact that the seeds are unstable and hermie prone.

But if you want og from seed, because you can't get a real cut your options are slim to none. The few that are doing it can't keep packs available. Swerve made money hand over fist and the keepers that are found far and few between blow most crosses out of the water.

I beleive one should study the genetics before growing them. Then the packs wouldn't need a warning or disclaimer, because you would have already known what your getting yourself into.

In know way am I sticking up for swerve. I don't like the guy.

I admit, one of my best seed plants have been from Cali connect. Tahoe og. Super fire. I also admit some of the shittiest plants I've ever grown were from the same pack.

If you want stable the line has to be worked, inbred, or back crossed by two homogeneous f1s or landrace.

I have a pocket full of money for anyone willing to do so. And don't tell me loompa, because even the f3's produce many different phenos, none of which is like the loompas headband.
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Its like buying a Mercedes from handy Manny.good car,put together by a novice cartoon.
I can't get the point across any simpler.
 
rory420420

rory420420

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kgp said:
Most breeders use cuts that they acquire. I guess I just don't get your reason. His genetics are good, but the breeding is not?

If swerve, you, or I make an s1 SFV, it would be the same results. Genetics don't know what dousche or stand up guy breeds with them.

If you acquired any of the same genetics and bread a similar line. Og x OG, with the end results aiming for an og from seed stock, you too would have unstable hermie prone seeds. Fact

What swerve did is try and produce seeds that would produce an og plant. There is no such a breeder that has done so that can produce produce what the masses want and call it of og and stable in the same description. Fact

I get it that he's a dousche bag from hell. I get the fact that the seeds are unstable and hermie prone.

But if you want og from seed, because you can't get a real cut your options are slim to none. The few that are doing it can't keep packs available. Swerve made money hand over fist and the keepers that are found far and few between blow most crosses out of the water.

I beleive one should study the genetics before growing them. Then the packs wouldn't need a warning or disclaimer, because you would have already known what your getting yourself into.

In know way am I sticking up for swerve. I don't like the guy.

I admit, one of my best seed plants have been from Cali connect. Tahoe og. Super fire. I also admit some of the shittiest plants I've ever grown were from the same pack.

If you want stable the line has to be worked, inbred, or back crossed by two homogeneous f1s or landrace.

I have a pocket full of money for anyone willing to do so. And don't tell me loompa, because even the f3's produce many different phenos, none of which is like the loompas headband.
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BTW,no one wants og from seed,at least me in this convo,I wanted a stable blackwater.
 
rory420420

rory420420

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King Arthur said:
Seems like every thread is turning into the 38% trash can. Pretty sad, some people are just too dense to learn.

A stable blackwater would have been special, it was supposed to be special lol.
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If you look at the beginning of this thread,I'm not trashing him..I'm giving an honest report...
All the other shit that surrounds him,dilligaff?:-)
 
rory420420

rory420420

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I make my own,unless I'm feeling randy and see something that catches my eye I want..but even then,I make beans in case i want to put that plant on the back burner or share with long distant buddies...
 
kgp

kgp

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althor said:
^ Yeah, say whatever you want about Swerve, and I am sure most of it is true, but for those of us not living in a state that you can run down the street and pick up a clone, Tahoe OG is the best alternative I have come across.
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That's kinda the point I was trying to make.
 
kgp

kgp

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King Arthur said:
You are a great guy with good information but don't go using fact when you can't prove it. Regardless of your rebuttle you can't prove your claim.

I dig all your work but lets keep shit 100% here.
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Your right, I can't prove that as fact. Just what I hear most from peeps I talk to but. I have no dogs in is fight, I really don't care. I was just giving my personal experiences. Enjoy your night.
 
King Arthur

King Arthur

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kgp said:
Your right, I can't prove that as fact. Just what I hear most from peeps I talk to but. I have no dogs in is fight, I really don't care. I was just giving my personal experiences. Enjoy your night.
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I know you wouldn't take it the wrong way brother, its no big deal I just think that there has to be some OG that is pretty stable. There are a lot of people breeding with OG and the good ones will find it eventually. I am sure more than a few stable og beans didn't get cloned and kept etc.

I have faith is all I am saying, don't take away the faith brotha!1!!! lolol one love bro
 
Mad Hamish

Mad Hamish

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Swerve said:
and those that have gotten free replacement gear from me know its all how you approach me and the situation
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@Swerve, I do believe after I went on your forum two years ago and spoke to you about getting zero females from a pack of Tahoe OG, you asked me to message you, which I did. I never got a reply mate. I went ahead and got a second pack, only two girls (no problem there) but I did have one full on hermaphrodite, she was run three times, each time with the same results, then a last time at a friend's place and also not a good experience. I did try bring the topic up on a different thread with you but it was not very friendly so nothing came of it. So here I am approaching it a last time (a few years later). And I am doing it nicely. I can refer you to a few threads from when it happened and my reports and so on so it is no BS. If there is one thing people know about me is that I really admire good customer service and it earns my loyalty. So if we can talk, as you say, you will earn a customer. Simple no?
 
Mad Hamish

Mad Hamish

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kgp said:
Most breeders use cuts that they acquire. I guess I just don't get your reason. His genetics are good, but the breeding is not?

If swerve, you, or I make an s1 SFV, it would be the same results. Genetics don't know what dousche or stand up guy breeds with them.

If you acquired any of the same genetics and bread a similar line. Og x OG, with the end results aiming for an og from seed stock, you too would have unstable hermie prone seeds. Fact

What swerve did is try and produce seeds that would produce an og plant. There is no such a breeder that has done so that can produce produce what the masses want and call it of og and stable in the same description. Fact

I get it that he's a dousche bag from hell. I get the fact that the seeds are unstable and hermie prone.

But if you want og from seed, because you can't get a real cut your options are slim to none. The few that are doing it can't keep packs available. Swerve made money hand over fist and the keepers that are found far and few between blow most crosses out of the water.

I beleive one should study the genetics before growing them. Then the packs wouldn't need a warning or disclaimer, because you would have already known what your getting yourself into.

In know way am I sticking up for swerve. I don't like the guy.

I admit, one of my best seed plants have been from Cali connect. Tahoe og. Super fire. I also admit some of the shittiest plants I've ever grown were from the same pack.

If you want stable the line has to be worked, inbred, or back crossed by two homogeneous f1s or landrace.

I have a pocket full of money for anyone willing to do so. And don't tell me loompa, because even the f3's produce many different phenos, none of which is like the loompas headband.
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I did not get a good one from either of my packs of Tahoe... One OK one I guess. Nothing on an old Diesel tho. One OK plant from two packs... don't care how O that G is my friend, that simply is not delivering the goods. I am very tempted to invest in one last pack simply because of your recommendation. If it sucks I will put salt in your sugar bowl at night while you sleep.
 
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