Have I fucked up everything?

[s0m3b0dyz]

Hello forum members, am new here.

Germinated 14 seeds in paper towel, the white thing (don't know english name for that) popped out. I've put them into soil watered them at 6am, and turned on 600w mh for 18/6. Came back to check them out at 11am everything was ok the soil was still wet. Came back at 11pm, the soil was dry, of course I watered them again. Temperature 25-26 celsius, humidity 35-40%.

What are my chances that they are ok and that they will pop out of soil... approximately they were 4-5h without water at the top and some water probably underground.

 

[edispilf]

they are fine. Keep moist not wet and go to a smaller wattage if you can for the seedlings. That will help keep temps down and you won't have to water as often.

 

[s0m3b0dyz]

Thank you @edispilf very much for your reply!!

I have a 400W HPS only lamp and have a 2 x 110w CFL tubes (1 x 110w blue specter, 1 x 110w red specter), should I put that on? They run both on a single panel, that should be ok for start?

I have been reading much before start, but when it gets real, it's a different thing.

Again thank you once more!

 

[edispilf]

I think I would personally just run the cfl's until the plants are a little bigger/have bigger roots and leaves....then work up from there. Just let them get established before you put a ton of light on them. Good luck

 

[s0m3b0dyz]

Thank you @edispilf. I will put CFL then in few hours before lights turn on. I thought it's better to use MH than CFL, but we all learn. =)

I will make diary in few days if they pop out, I took some pictures and will include them in diary.​

 

[Alienwidow]

Ya, little sprouts dont need 600 watts of metal halide smashing them. With thinking like this you may end up with big problems with over saturation of light in the future. Start them with the floros as mentioned. Those lights wont dry your soil out totally as fast. If you did indeed let all the water evaporate from the containers theres a good chance you may have killed some of the sprouts. If it happens often they will surely all die. The key is to have it moist but not soaked. Then when they spout, dont drown them, and dont pound them with light. Sounds like you have a lot of reading to do man. Search the threads on riu that have to do with light height, formulate a plan based on that and then when your done post a thread so you can have some opinions on the plan. Till then keep the temps at 78 and the floros rockin until you see how many survived.

 

[s0m3b0dyz]

Thank you @Alienwidow, I hope I haven't killed them, haven't even started and maybe fucked up all... :/ I will read now for the light in forums and switch it to CFL before the timer goes on. It won't happen again surely, the water evaporated too fast.

Maybe I'll have to put more seeds on germination, probably a few...

Fingers crossed!

 

[Alienwidow]

Thank you @Alienwidow, I hope I haven't killed them, haven't even started and maybe fucked up all... :/ I will read now for the light in forums and switch it to CFL before the timer goes on. It won't happen again surely, the water evaporated too fast.

Maybe I'll have to put more seeds on germination, probably a few...

Fingers crossed!

First grow is always a learning experience. Also start some herbs, grow a little garden, that will let you practice and its not as expensive if you fail. I didnt have a green thumb when i started, killed whole trays of sprouts, veggie sprouts. I grew vegtables under grow lights and killed them too. But when i got to growing weed i knew the basics and ive been flying ever since because i know how to grow the basics.

 

[s0m3b0dyz]

Ok, thank you for suggestion, I will try with tomatoes and chilli, tomatoes are similar to cannabis by something if I heard correctly.

We must learn somehow.

P.S. I think the whole tray is fucked up, all 14... but I comfort myself that they will survive.

 

[FrostyPelican]

Yeah the guys above saying go with the cfl are correct. I burned up seedlings with a 400 watt when I was new. Your MH or HPS is way too much for them at this early stage.

 

[gardengardian7]

Thank you @edispilf very much for your reply!!

I have a 400W HPS only lamp and have a 2 x 110w CFL tubes (1 x 110w blue specter, 1 x 110w red specter), should I put that on? They run both on a single panel, that should be ok for start?

I have been reading much before start, but when it gets real, it's a different thing.

Again thank you once more!

Certainly my friend.

 

[gardengardian7]

Thank you @edispilf very much for your reply!!

I have a 400W HPS only lamp and have a 2 x 110w CFL tubes (1 x 110w blue specter, 1 x 110w red specter), should I put that on? They run both on a single panel, that should be ok for start?

I have been reading much before start, but when it gets real, it's a different thing.

Again thank you once more!

That is the tubes.

 

[gardengardian7]

1 and a half months vegging. Im waiting for my t5. This is only 800watts if cfl.

 

[s0m3b0dyz]

@FrostyPelican We learn on mistakes. What height should I switch them to hps o mh... if they even get out.

@gardengardian7 looking good I've put 2x110w tubes for my new girls, i hope they will fight till the end and get out of the soil.

I hope they all didn't get fucked up.

Good luck to you.

 

[FrostyPelican]

I usually wait about a week or two (all depends on how they are doing) but even then keep the light very high up or on a low setting and gradually increase the intensity. So one day light very high up (3 to 4 feet to be safe), next day a little lower, the next day turn the ballast setting to 75% (if you have the adjustable ballast) the next day lower the the light more etc. Better to have the first run grow a more slowly at first than to do a lot of damage.

It's all about learning so the good thing out of this is that you got some experience and won't do it again. Good luck man.

 

[s0m3b0dyz]

@FrostyPelican
I don't have adjustable ballast, it's one intensity all of them., but will put the lights up as much as I can and I will try that method to lower the light down gradually until I think it's ok. I completely agree, better to do slowly than fuck up everything as soon as you put seed in soil like I did.

I am sure I will learn new stuff here.

Good luck to you too and thanks for help.

 

[Budzbuddha]

Use a simple CFL setup for your seedlings , allow them to get started without alot of heavy watering or lights. No nutes for at least week 2/3.
Let this fragile seedling just get its foundation set. I always use a 60/100w CFL to " calmly" get plant used to light. This is the time it will stretch a little. And that's a good thing.

Most good soil mixes have enough beginning nutes in its matrix to provide good growth and vigor. All you got to do is keep moist , that's it.

Just the plant do its thing !

 

[s0m3b0dyz]

@Budzbuddha looks good, I hope I will see it too. I will keep temperature and humidity on level. Good luck.

Now the temperature is 24 celsius and humidity is 55%, looks good but I think the seeds are dead.

I've seen one seed and it's root (the white thing) has gone lightly yellow or brownish, does it mean it's probably dead?

From this: https://www.rollitup.org/t/yellow-tap-root-during-germination.154498/
I assume it's ok, but can it be from the light, that it burned them to yellow, at the end it was 600W 50cm away?

 

[Budzbuddha]

It's better to let be for now. Don't touch or keep disturbing these fragile new plants.
Without pics , the white thingy is called a Taproot ( it very early first root ) it is extremely fragile and can be damaged or contaminated very easily.

 

[s0m3b0dyz]

Ok I will let them do what they need to, I will check them in 24 hours and see how they are going.

Thanks for the explanation, I touched it only with the thing women take their eyebrows out. lol.

PS. I'm not from english speaking country.

Thanks for help.