What does it cost you to produce one clone?

Jd Short

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Quite a while back I calculated that it costs approximately $1.22 for me to produce one clone, and approximately 23 minutes per/clone based on the care they need from the time they were cut to 'finished' or had found their home. Since then I have changed much about my cloning process and have not since calculated what it costs me to produce one clone. I calculated the time it takes based on things like how long it takes to cut them, water them, transplant them, air them, etc.

I'm now using a cloning table to make my clones and I assume the cost has dropped as much as .20-.35 cents per/clone. And perhaps as much as 5-10 minutes less per/clone. But others costs and time/labor increases such as a $1.00 a piece testing fee have basically leveled that out to around the same amount.

What I do know is how much dispensaries in my area are paying for rooted, pest free, healthy and lab certified clones. They buy them for an average of $7.00 a piece.

Working with the estimated formula above that it costs me a average minimum of $1.10 and 18 minutes per/clone, it would cost me $19.80 and 5.4 hours to produce a tray of 18 clones. That total does't include the costs and energy of rounding up supplies, or the marketing and sales it requires to find perspective costumers, or the costs, time and labor required to distribute them to perspective costumers. Among other forgotten and unforeseen productions costs. That total also does not include the time, labor, and expenses it costs to grow out mothers. Or the time, labor and cost it takes to do the genetic research and development (or pay for the use of someone else's) to create a strain or pick the pheno.

So, just out of curiosity, what does it cost you to produce one clone?

And please don't tell me I'm a greedy bastard for trying to make a living doing what I love, mkay?
Thanks.
 
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LiquidJade

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1/4 Nute per gallon
Rockwool cubes
Distilled water by the gallon
Root Hormone of your choice (lasts a while from what im seeing)
 

UncleBuck

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$15 for 50 cubes = $0.30 a cube

$5 bottle of cloning powder, good for 75 or so clones = $0.07

13 watts of electric 24/7 @ $0.10 per KwH over 16 clones per batch = ~$0.10 per ~3 days = $0.70 per 3 weeks over 16 clones = $0.043

about $0.41 per rooted clone.
 
$15 for 50 cubes = $0.30 a cube

$5 bottle of cloning powder, good for 75 or so clones = $0.07

13 watts of electric 24/7 @ $0.10 per KwH over 16 clones per batch = ~$0.10 per ~3 days = $0.70 per 3 weeks over 16 clones = $0.043

about $0.41 per rooted clone.
Don't need cubes with aeroponics :), also a 40w cfl would do as long as its at room temps
 

Jd Short

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$15 for 50 cubes = $0.30 a cube

$5 bottle of cloning powder, good for 75 or so clones = $0.07

13 watts of electric 24/7 @ $0.10 per KwH over 16 clones per batch = ~$0.10 per ~3 days = $0.70 per 3 weeks over 16 clones = $0.043

about $0.41 per rooted clone.
What kind of rooting success do you get with this formula? And also, what kind of rooting powder would be used in this scenario. And would the clones need to 'rebound' from the rooting process before getting rid of?

And if the cost of production is .41 cents, can you also calculate what the labor would cost over that same three week period?
 

UncleBuck

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What kind of rooting success do you get with this formula? And also, what kind of rooting powder would be used in this scenario. And would the clones need to 'rebound' from the rooting process before getting rid of?

And if the cost of production is .41 cents, can you also calculate what the labor would cost over that same three week period?
jesus christ, it's like giving away years of stored up knowledge to some 19 year old who thinks he's gonna move out to california and sell clones to the world.

99% success, home depot cloning powder, about 1 minute per clone.
 

Jd Short

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jesus christ, it's like giving away years of stored up knowledge to some 19 year old who thinks he's gonna move out to california and sell clones to the world.

99% success, home depot cloning powder, about 1 minute per clone.
It takes you 16 minutes over a three week period and $6.56 to produce 16 clones?
That's pretty impressive. I'd have to see it before I believed it.
 

UncleBuck

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def. amortize hidden costs as add ons.
time per hr., space 'rent'. liability factor very relevant imo.

gonna experiment more w rooting in coarse sand. (inhospitable to pests and ez to wash off or transplant.)
i'm gonna write off the depreciation on these dixie cups i keep reusing. really gonna stick it to the man.
 

UncleBuck

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It takes you 16 minutes over a three week period and $6.56 to produce 16 clones?
That's pretty impressive. I'd have to see it before I believed it.
maybe 20 minutes with cleanup of the trimmed leaves. it doesn't take much more than 8 seconds to crack the vent on the dome.
 

Jd Short

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maybe 20 minutes with cleanup of the trimmed leaves. it doesn't take much more than 8 seconds to crack the vent on the dome.
So then, are you there every day to 'crack the dome?' Or do you pay someone else to be there? Do you wait around the 20 minutes to put the dome back on...I mean...there are plenty more costs than what you have suggested there are. I think you're being very unrealistic.
 

UncleBuck

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So then, are you there every day to 'crack the dome?' Or do you pay someone else to be there? Do you wait around the 20 minutes to put the dome back on...I mean...there are plenty more costs than what you have suggested there are. I think you're not being very unrealistic.
on the third day, i take the long, grueling 8 foot walk from my couch to my veg room and crack the dome.

on the fifth day, i open it up completely.

after two or so weeks, i remove the dome altogether.



see those little round things on top?
 

Jd Short

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In my environment the clones needed regular airing daily when I was doing them in rockwool. As I stated I use a clone table now. And pay $1.00 a piece for a lab inspection. Even at .15 cents a piece for production, that's $1.15 a piece for production only, NOT including any labor. They need to be cut from a mother plant that needs to be grown out. They need to be transplanted into potters. The water in the table needs regular care. It just aint worth it as producers to sell them for under $13.00 a piece using this formula.

And if the clubs buying them are millions of dollars in debt as you allude to in the other thread, no wonder they try to squeeze every penny out of producers that they can.
 
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