DR CHRONIC IS A SCAM!!!!!! EVERYONe who buys seeds should read this

[bongrippinbob]

I haven't read this whole thread, but I read a couple of pages. A few years back, I placed an order with Dr Chronic. I paid with a money order. I waited and waited. I emailed them, no response. I emailed again, no response. So I just gave up on the email thing.

Well here it is, 3yrs later, not a green letter, not an email, nothing. I am not saying he ripped me off, the money order could have been lost or stolen in the mail, etc. But it seems kind of weird that I didn't even get an email or anything from them.

After this experience, which luckily was only 1/2 of my money and 1/2 my friends, I ordered from seedboutique.com I paid with a credit card to make sure my payment got there. I got my seeds in 8 days after I paid. All the bad stuff people talk about seedboutique, and they're the ones that come through.

Like I said, I am not saying Dr Chronic, took my money, lots of stuff could have happened from here to there, or a mix up some where with the shipping or whatever. But I never got my seeds, nor did I get a response to my emails, which would have been the least he could have done.

This is just my experience, its not bashing, its just telling what happened with my order, so don't go jumping my shit about it.

Bob

 

[OnSolomonsGrave]

I haven't read this whole thread, but I read a couple of pages. A few years back, I placed an order with Dr Chronic. I paid with a money order. I waited and waited. I emailed them, no response. I emailed again, no response. So I just gave up on the email thing.

Well here it is, 3yrs later, not a green letter, not an email, nothing. I am not saying he ripped me off, the money order could have been lost or stolen in the mail, etc. But it seems kind of weird that I didn't even get an email or anything from them.

After this experience, which luckily was only 1/2 of my money and 1/2 my friends, I ordered from seedboutique.com I paid with a credit card to make sure my payment got there. I got my seeds in 8 days after I paid. All the bad stuff people talk about seedboutique, and they're the ones that come through.

Like I said, I am not saying Dr Chronic, took my money, lots of stuff could have happened from here to there, or a mix up some where with the shipping or whatever. But I never got my seeds, nor did I get a response to my emails, which would have been the least he could have done.

This is just my experience, its not bashing, its just telling what happened with my order, so don't go jumping my shit about it.

Bob

Sounds like my experience with BCBudDepot. I totally feel yeah thats basically what I did when I felt ripped.

 

[reefcouple]

sounds like aloy of them aren't the greates with "follow up"????

i've been lucky sooo far "knock on wood"

 

[Bluntus McSmokey]

I'm more curious about the no letter from customs thing. Losing money is one thing--getting the police showing up at your door is quite another. How long before you get rid of your stuff, if you've ordered? At what point do you decide something has gone wrong?

 

[GrowRebel]

Chronic would not back the nirvana white widow seeds he sold me that turn out to be bad ... no response to my emails other than a form email with FAQ ... I guess he's blaming me for the sick plants ... because of that I had to report it to the seedbankupdate ... plus I can't recommend him myself ... although I'm sure there are others who would ...

 

[OnSolomonsGrave]

Chronic would not back the nirvana white widow seeds he sold me that turn out to be bad ... no response to my emails other than a form email with FAQ ... I guess he's blaming me for the sick plants ... because of that I had to report it to the seedbankupdate ... plus I can't recommend him myself ... although I'm sure there are others who would ...

How is it his responsibility, that nirvana's seeds were bad I am confused...

 

[reefcouple]

How is it his responsibility, that nirvana's seeds were bad I am confused...

As a distributor you need to back the product, if there's issues, you SHOULD take care of your customers then go after the mfr (seed producer).. As a wholesaler thats your responsibility..

I personally own a wholesale distribution company and have been in business for many years, and i know if i didnt back the product, follow up with customers etc. I would eventually lose those customers, maybe i would pick up others along the way, but i hate losing customers..

I've never done biz with dr chron so i dont know 1st hand, but reading thru the emails i thought they handled it fairly well, all they wanted was payment for shipment... I don't think that was asking for too much considering their not supposed to even do business with US customers...

Thats just my opinion...

here's a place i go thru

www.marijuana-seeds.nl

i've never had an issue with em

 

[OnSolomonsGrave]

I have dealt with doc chron, and his suppliers. I have seen complaints filed with him and his reputable breeders who care.. and they replace them, Chimera for example, I saw him replace an entire pack of MF cause some guy said he got some hermies. But people can;t ask doc to dig into his own pocket, cause some seeds didn't germ right and were of poor quality. He pays the suppliers they give him the seeds he pays for, he marks them up and resells them. They are giving him the shit product, he isn't going to them asking for trash seeds.

 

[reefcouple]

I have dealt with doc chron, and his suppliers. I have seen complaints filed with him and his reputable breeders who care.. and they replace them, Chimera for example, I saw him replace an entire pack of MF cause some guy said he got some hermies. But people can;t ask doc to dig into his own pocket, cause some seeds didn't germ right and were of poor quality. He pays the suppliers they give him the seeds he pays for, he marks them up and resells them. They are giving him the shit product, he isn't going to them asking for trash seeds.

Thats a part of doing business, if he gets multiple complaints for quality issues, he SHOULD (key word SHOOULD), honor his customers.. Then go after his supplier.. Thats business 101

If i take an order for 1 of my customers for part A, my mfr ships to me part A with a wiring issue, i don't tell my customer he's shit outta luck cuz i'm not paying for it, 1st order of business is make the customer happy then bust my vendors balls, hopefully my vendor cares enough about me to take his responsibility, if not, i take my biz elsewhere,, Business 101

 

[OnSolomonsGrave]

Thats a part of doing business, if he gets multiple complaints for quality issues, he SHOULD (key word SHOOULD), honor his customers.. Then go after his supplier.. Thats business 101

If i take an order for 1 of my customers for part A, my mfr ships to me part A with a wiring issue, i don't tell my customer he's shit outta luck cuz i'm not paying for it, 1st order of business is make the customer happy then bust my vendors balls, hopefully my vendor cares enough about me to take his responsibility, if not, i take my biz elsewhere,, Business 101

Totally agree, but that takes time, and form what i have heard we just learned about the problems with the nirv white widow, considering i bought some over a year ago and had no probs.

 

[LiveVibe]

Did you try to contact them via phone? Even e-mail? That's strange to send half the order. If they were confiscated then you would have gotten NONE. The fact that you got half is strange....some seed companies sell a pack of 10 or 5. Maybe they got your order mixed up and sent you five by mistake. You should try to talk to them and work it out.

 

[reefcouple]

i think the biggest issue i keep seing is the "follow up" and that goes for most of the seed banks.. all anyone really wants is an email response.. as far as this particular issue went, i thought the doc did a fair job and was willing to honor the customer, they just wanted payment for the shipping cost, and in my opinion, this particular customer played the "customer card" a little too hard...

when i buy seeds i am always crossing my fingers, because of a few reasons, legal issues which effect both supplier and buyer, who knows who's being honest yada yada, and who's really responsible, these seed banks realistically cant be expected to honor confiscated seeds, as a supplier i wouldnt or i would have a tough time doing it... thats the risk of doing illegal business i guess.

 

[SquirrelGod]

LOL@ people are getting mad because he said that a seed bank is a scam, the funny thing is 95% of them are, they send you dead, or just regular ass seeds just because people will spend ridicules amounts of money on them if they think it's "Afghani Cush". Now yes SOME seed banks are real, but often the most expensive sites are the fake ones. I have no idea what ones are real, but I know people that have bought seeds and got UBER ripped off.

 

[OnSolomonsGrave]

I mean I see all the good active breeders throwing beans away, trying to make people happy, shit on chron's forums there is a section where they give away new strains for people to try with your orders, He is far from one of bad guys. Things are just screwy right now, a lot of orders being snagged. Imagine how many emails he must get daily, I would put it close to 4 or 5 hundred about seeds. The breeders are in the end to blame for bad quality, he is simply a middle man, but he should demand more if he knows about it.

 

[LiveVibe]

It has been a while since I have ordered seeds but I am sure it is not that different.....last couple of times they all did arrive. Two packs out of six were not extremely viable seeds. Not quite the quality you would expect for the price. There was one site that I trusted in particular and they never let me down. Also at the time the worry of hermies was very low and the genetics were off the hook with new strains coming out every month. It was the time when seed banks really started to blow up. Depending on how long they keep the seeds is an issue as well. Some do not sell as well and they may or may not be keeping track of what is the oldest and what is the newest or selling in order of freshness. Seeds are extremely difficult to confiscate. They come in plain packages and there is no THC. The seeds are so small and virtually undetectable that the possibility of international mail without tracking for something so little getting lost is much higher than confiscation. Also they cannot really confiscate seeds because they cannot tell if it is hemp or not because seeds have no THC. Tracking is a big issue and it's too bad that it costs so much for good shipping however the loss maybe more.

 

[GrowRebel]

How is it his responsibility, that nirvana's seeds were bad I am confused...

He's selling them ... if I go to K-mart and get a product that turns out defective I'm taking it back to K-mart ... they would replace it or give me my money back ... even though they didn't make that product ... same concept ...

 

[989dboy]

I would go with any chimera strain, all his shit is sick, mental floss has a purple pheno in it if your into that kinda stuff.

okay might have to type dat into the search but will def look into it.

 

[stickyicky77]

FDD, it's the risk you take when you want the genetics but don;t have clone banks you can get them from. It's easy to say something like that when you have high quality clones and strains all around you, and can semi openly trade among medical users. I on the other hand want genetics, am currently in a state that has no med program, so I am willing to look at places who can send me genetics at a price and risk. Just as this man was when he sent his money to doc chron for the seeds. He knew the risk, we all openly take it, face it, it is illegal for him to be sending them here, he is also taking a risk. Your statement It might be weed it might be lawn clippings is pretty crazy to think thats at all related to his service. He is sending a legit product, now if our customs snags it, thats another story, WE as the purchaser CHOSE to have it sent knowing those risks. The OP is painting a picture that he sent money, and nothing was ever sent. I would put every cent I have to say it was just grabbed at customs. Then he complained and what happened? the Doc sent him more beans for free? and thats bad service?

If customs snags your package they will send you a green letter saying that your package was confiscated because the contents are illegal in the US and you can contact them to claim the contents. And it is usually with the empty package with green tape on it to close it back up.

 

[OnSolomonsGrave]

If customs snags your package they will send you a green letter saying that your package was confiscated because the contents are illegal in the US and you can contact them to claim the contents. And it is usually with the empty package with green tape on it to close it back up.

Gj reading half the posts and half the thread. There have been instances of people not receiving anything at all, and then state police showed up with the beans trying to search a house.

 

[stickyicky77]

Gj reading half the posts and half the thread. There have been instances of people not receiving anything at all, and then state police showed up with the beans trying to search a house.

They may do that if was like 500 seeds that they snagged. They sure wouldn't waste there time for 10 or 20 seeds. And they are required by law to send you the notice if they open and take your mail. You really shouldn't use your name and send seeds to the same location as your grow anyways.