$50 ounces for upper tier legal weed?

[OddBall1st]

The hell are you babbling about?

If you try to grow huge amounts, your almost always guaranteed to lose. Just ask the guy in Washington with 22 tones of what I saw as too early not well cared for weed. I don`t know if that pic is the actual product but you should get the picture.

I went from a hundred plant grows to a thousand one year, never do it again, if I did it correctly, paid everything even taxes today, I would be doing it at a loss. The weed can be good but if you can`t care for the plants.....??

Like tuning a drum, growing pot has a sweet spot. (cartels excluded)


I went back to growing three or so years ago, I grow 50, tops now. Enough for me for the year and plenty for show and tell scratch N sniff parties.

Then there was the year of the caterpillar .....wiped me out.

But ya growing too much is not profitable.

 

[LetsGetCritical]

Yep a lot of total misinformation on the RIU. I mean there are some really admirable educated growers here, as well as awesome threads, but you have to weed through so much muck it's pathetic to find that needle in the hay stack. Confuses me sometimes too. I validate everything I discover here elsewhere before I implement anything. Plus I have never seen so many fuck ups coagulate in one place. Troll central. Even those I feel add value screw around on TnT rather than even bother trying to get involved in discussions.

Oh well. It is what it is. I'm only here because I got a cooshy job and get bored half the time. And I love growing and all things about it. I certainly don't consider myself an expert, but damn it's just not that hard to be a novice or mid level grower and get good results.

Also I have a real life outside of growing and MJ. ITS ALL GOOD!

TGIF!

 

[ttystikk]

See now I think that legalization has all to do with cheap weed. I`ve also been stating for years now that dispensaries will fail from the get go. Sure the FAB is short lived and gives dealers a false sense of success.

Legalization decreases demand, and you can`t predict where people will get their weed. Gov. expects tax dollars and like you say, that`s all they care about and will get theirs even if you don`t get your share.

If weed were free to grow and sell at will unrestricted, ... you will have a pot industry a lot like the auto industry. You can`t machine farm weed. It don`t take well to machine harvest and people need to be paid. (Cartels excluded)

To think weed prices will be controlled by industry is silly and foolish.

Like Mr. Sunshine said,....Good weed sells it`self.

Demand for weed has not gone down in Colorado since legalization. Crime has fallen, however.

 

[ttystikk]

See now I think that legalization has all to do with cheap weed. I`ve also been stating for years now that dispensaries will fail from the get go. Sure the FAB is short lived and gives dealers a false sense of success.

Legalization decreases demand, and you can`t predict where people will get their weed. Gov. expects tax dollars and like you say, that`s all they care about and will get theirs even if you don`t get your share.

If weed were free to grow and sell at will unrestricted, ... you will have a pot industry a lot like the auto industry. You can`t machine farm weed. It don`t take well to machine harvest and people need to be paid. (Cartels excluded)

To think weed prices will be controlled by industry is silly and foolish.

Like Mr. Sunshine said,....Good weed sells it`self.

Your contention that weed production can't be automated is false. Not only CAN it be, it already IS being automated.

You gain efficiencies when you automate nearly any part of the production chain; it's not like your costs are high until every aspect is run by robots.

Some aspects- like trimming- don't lend themselves to machine production as well as others, this is true- but the low hanging fruit is by and large right there, ready to be picked from a process engineering standpoint.

I know; I'm doing it and my consulting business customers are already starting to see the benefits.

 

[leftyguitar]

Taxation alone will keep prices from falling too flat.

Medical pot is priced right at 400 oz in NJ, just like on the street. What a coincidence? Gov't involvement will keep prices where they are. Hope I'm wrong.

 

[mainliner]

the worlds a huge place and there's billions of people reaching for the big bucks in a big pond.

you should be happy with what you got in your little pond and leave the rest to struggle for survival Imo.

lifes to short and in my experience in people and money its the people who live in tribes in rainforest etc etc who are the happy ones


its the grower who should set the price on their product not the buyer ...... They want it too cheap leaving a constant battle between lower prices.......the grower suffers out of greed for money from the buyer !!! Its pathetic and a never ending battle which can only be solved with some sort of gathering of all major growers who agree on a set price to their buyers ..... This will never happen !!!

shame

 

[LetsGetCritical]

the worlds a huge place and there's billions of people reaching for the big bucks in a big pond.

you should be happy with what you got in your little pond and leave the rest to struggle for survival Imo.

lifes to short and in my experience in people and money its the people who live in tribes in rainforest etc etc who are the happy ones


its the grower who should set the price on their product not the buyer ...... They want it too cheap leaving a constant battle between lower prices.......the grower suffers out of greed for money from the buyer !!! Its pathetic and a never ending battle which can only be solved with some sort of gathering of all major growers who agree on a set price to their buyers ..... This will never happen !!!

shame

how long did you experience living with tribesman in the rainforest?

 

[mainliner]

The beer shops near me hate the big name brand guys putting a set price tag on their drink bottles because they ( the buyer) cant argue or change the price of Your product
i think its called" a set price" or something.
the major growers should ALL agree to do this to solve your $50 oz problem.

 

[mainliner]

@LetsGetCritical

FUCKING LISTEN TO ME TONY !! I KNOW SHIT AND THIS IS SHIT I KNOW !!!

ya fuck !!

 

[LetsGetCritical]

@LetsGetCritical

FUCKING LISTEN TO ME TONY !! I KNOW SHIT AND THIS IS SHIT I KNOW !!!

ya fuck !!

what the hell is wrong with you buddy lol

 

[OddBall1st]

Demand for weed has not gone down in Colorado since legalization. Crime has fallen, however.

Should it be legal in all States, it will go waaaaaay down. You can`t avoid that. The fab is gonna happen for a few but in reality, Commercial use is gonna win out over potheads.

 

[Terry385]

legal in all States, it will go waaaaaay down.

prices well go up or stay the same flat $200 oz's plus tax

 

[OddBall1st]

Your contention that weed production can't be automated is false. Not only CAN it be, it already IS being automated.

You gain efficiencies when you automate nearly any part of the production chain; it's not like your costs are high until every aspect is run by robots.

Some aspects- like trimming- don't lend themselves to machine production as well as others, this is true- but the low hanging fruit is by and large right there, ready to be picked from a process engineering standpoint.

I know; I'm doing it and my consulting business customers are already starting to see the benefits.

What and how much are you putting out ?

I can see transportation and bud trimming being automated, but not the grow and the harvest of let`s say ten acres. Ten acres will not be ready for harvest like pumpkins would. Your machine can`t do that. The bees will get around all your defenses.

Having machines to trim, and transport good quality pot isn`t covering the expensive times of the grow.

A commercial grower isn`t interested in the quality of THC in the plant, neither is the machine,...so this is possible but will be human assisted.

 

[OddBall1st]

legal in all States, it will go waaaaaay down.

prices well go up or stay the same flat $200 oz's plus tax

There are too many people with a backyard grow that supply ten or so customers enough product and need the cash for the winter. these people are getting better at timing the harvest and will always be the thorn in big businesses side. I think anything over 150 a OZ of headweed is not a fair asking price, because of the backyard /indoor growers can be found everywhere. Your name goes out there, remember that.

 

[Terry385]

backyard grow
that's the thing how to pay the tax's due.. gov. got to have it's hand in it.. like a small business

 

[GrowUrOwnDank]

Some don't understand basic economics. As legalization has shown in Washington, where I posted an article with a link, that commercial growers are offering weed up for sell as low as $1 a gram, it's getting cheaper. This thread wasn't started to discuss black market prices. That brings with it a whole other set of obstacles, and as long as it is illegal it will fetch much higher prices. And it will be safer for the commercial growers where it is legal.

All that's a good thing. Progress. And yeah, top grade connosiuer weed will fetch higher prices. Like top shelf bourbon or cigars.

Seriously. It just aint that hard to grow weed. Hempy Bucket, Good genes, Decent Light and environment, then just watch it grow. Sorry for all of you who think you're a genius because you grow some weed. It's not a big deal.

 

[OddBall1st]

I know at least ten off the top that grow year round inside or in backyards. they are off the risk level factor and away from the expense of buying. They actually have a good system of timing and in legal states, these guys and girls are out of the market. That`s their goal. That money is small from them now and not available, and that`s not good for business minded.

In legal States, many will grow and or get local and stay out of the market. Most dealers deliver....

 

[Terry385]

weed. It's not a big deal

o that's why it's illegal

 

[mainliner]

Some don't understand basic economics. As legalization has shown in Washington, where I posted an article with a link, that commercial growers are offering weed up for sell as low as $1 a gram, it's getting cheaper. This thread wasn't started to discuss black market prices. That brings with it a whole other set of obstacles, and as long as it is illegal it will fetch much higher prices. And it will be safer for the commercial growers where it is legal.

All that's a good thing. Progress. And yeah, top grade connosiuer weed will fetch higher prices. Like top shelf bourbon or cigars.

Seriously. It just aint that hard to grow weed. Hempy Bucket, Good genes, Decent Light and environment, then just watch it grow. Sorry for all of you who think you're a genius because you grow some weed. It's not a big deal.

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All that's a good thing. Progress. And yeah, top grade connosiuer weed will fetch higher prices. Like top shelf bourbon or cigars.

Seriously. It just aint that hard to grow weed. Hempy Bucket, Good genes, Decent Light and environment, then just watch it grow. Sorry for all of you who think you're a genius because you grow some weed. It's not a big deal.[/QUOTE]
BULLSHITT!!

 

[OddBall1st]

Some don't understand basic economics. As legalization has shown in Washington, where I posted an article with a link, that commercial growers are offering weed up for sell as low as $1 a gram, it's getting cheaper. This thread wasn't started to discuss black market prices. That brings with it a whole other set of obstacles, and as long as it is illegal it will fetch much higher prices. And it will be safer for the commercial growers where it is legal.

All that's a good thing. Progress. And yeah, top grade connosiuer weed will fetch higher prices. Like top shelf bourbon or cigars.

Seriously. It just aint that hard to grow weed. Hempy Bucket, Good genes, Decent Light and environment, then just watch it grow. Sorry for all of you who think you're a genius because you grow some weed. It's not a big deal.

Your Idea of a Commercial grower and mine are two different things. Get it straight, a Commercial grower is interested in the fibers, not the high. You start to grow large for the rec user and it will cost you....

You have no idea how to grow good pot and keep your plants alive with healthy flowering periods if you say it`s easy. That`s a no brainer. That attitude produces 22 tons of crap..........For a dollar a gram.....

Who prices their weed by the fucking gram ??????