foreverflyhi
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I think we need to rephrase this rioting non sense. This is a uprising, the beginning of the end of oppression. True democracy in the form of uprising.
Riots in Baltimore
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Rob Roy
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The beginning of more restrictions is a more likely result, as the system which is based in force can only respond with force, curfews etc..
Ideas are what must be proliferated, rather than senseless destruction. Both the rioters and the thug/pigs are in the wrong.
The persons / individuals that wronged the guy with the broken neck should be held responsible, stealing shit and burning cars doesn't do that.
Even if violence DID solve the problem, why hasn't the violence been used defensively and directed towards the particular thug / pigs that broke the mans neck?
foreverflyhi
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Martin Luther King once said (paraphrasing) he doesn't support violence, but understands it, because violence is a form of relief caused by oppression.
And to further my point, ghandi used "non violent protest" however, define violence? Ghandi burned the identification the British set on the people by force, he burned the clathes that they where forced to rebuy after they made it with their own hands.
My point? Violence is not breaking windows and property, no that is just a expression caused by oppression.
But hey what's wrong with violence towards the oppressors? Nothing! They deserve it!
An eye for a eye may make the world blind, but other senses will get stronger to make up for the blindness.
Rob Roy
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Defensive force is a right. Offensive force is a wrong. It doesn't matter if you have a shiny badge or a piece of paper, none of us have any right to fuck with others in a nondefensive way.
The problem comes in when some people think because there is a man made law which gives them some kind of bullshit authority to commit offensive force they are not responsible for their individual actions. Nuremberg excuse, etc. "Just doing my job" is another bullshit excuse that is used often by people shirking their culpability....like cops, or other kinds of mercenary thugs.
theexpress
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How many whites were shot by police.. police kill all kinds of Shit. Stray dogs people's pet dogs homeless people. Black people whites Hispanics ect . The cpd have been good about shooting people here lately. In other years we have led the nation in total people Shot by police like we always lead in homicide.. the cpd saw what's happening around the country and font want our great city with a huge huge black population to burn. With over 100k gang bangers. This mother Fucker would go up quick and there is nothing the Chicago police department a force of I think 14k strong and the second largest force in America if not the world can do about it. My point is cops kill people of all colors.
Fogdog
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Translation: Tut, tut. I shall sip on my grande latte macchiato and puff on my lemon berry kush while I contemplate the actions of the black man.
EDIT: I added "Translation:" to my sentence. Somebody missed that I was being ironic.
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foreverflyhi
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This is the problem with how your thinking, you seem to refuse to acknowledge black struggle in a racist society. You seem to forget the 500 years of oppression, old day slavery and modern slavery.
So yes all live obviously matter, but the movement of black lives matter is and will be the foundation to real changE.
However to contradict myself a little bit, it's not going to take 1000 of murdered black people for a real change, not even if caught on camera, no it will take a few white people to be murdered by pigs for there to be real change. Sad but true, with the way your thinking and majority of other Americans, white live matter more
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foreverflyhi
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some what agree,
However, you may be on the side of property rights, but let's not forget, this property you think they own, isn't theirs to begin wit, no its the people's property, we built it, we can destroy it, and rebuild it.
theexpress
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My family only has roots in this country since the 70s wenever owned no slaves . We were slaves and had multiple religions forced on us from Romans Byzantine Greeks and the ottoman empire. And later felt the burn of communism and yugoslavian Serb oppression.. so Fuck what you herd like a Dick in Ur ear
foreverflyhi
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Lost respect because of your last sentence, anyways, if you acknowledge all that oppression, then why can't you acknowledge people of color oppression. Why can't you acknowledge modern day slavery in which you and your family from the 70s benefit from? Who do you think picks your fruits, grows your vegetables? who do you think made your wife's Victoria secret underwear? Prison inmates, child slaves, women, people of color=modern day slavery.
Your no different then all these racist right wing pigs. Your a bigot, a racist.
theexpress
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I'm a survivor
... We had it worse then black people and for a much longer period of time. You don't see me asking Italy Greece Turkey Serbia ect. For my 40 acres and a mule... Shit Kosovo only got independence a few years ago. We were victems of ethnic cleansing last in 99.. when was the last time a lynch mob was active lol. We have a black president now. Many blacks in politics... We have come along way as a country. Just cuz you want a black guy to Fuck your wife on film like unklebuck does isn't my problem I'm not racist you cock sucker.. I hate everyone and everything equally
foreverflyhi
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Racist bigot talk. With nothing but bullshit of value to your words. I acknowledge oppression in Serbia greece turkey etc etc, i understand all that, believe me I do. We can talk about that another tiMeI'm a survivor
But that's besides the point, we are here in the United states, Where land was stolen from the indigenous, oasis American and meso American, mexicans. Built from immigrants and slavery, maintained by people of color thru modern day slavery.
You can argue all you want on who had it worse or longer, point is this is happening here and now, and people like you make bullshit comparisons.
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abandonconflict
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You're just a fat white dude from America. Nobody feels sorry for you.I'm a survivor
Poor oppressed white men...
theexpress
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ehhh your daddy should have pulled out .... Maybe the next load would have been an independent instead of a liberal race baiter. Ps... Compared to you I bet I'm like da hulk. I'm built for the game hoe
abandonconflict
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Amazing! Look how this specimen challenges the other males in an attempt to attract the attention of prospective mates even when no females are present. It's clear that homosexuality is indeed present in his species. Fascinating!
theexpress
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Looool..... Good game... Good game... Don't film the animals
theexpress
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Cuz those particular pigs are prolly in hiding like that pig from ferguson. And the other pigs don't want to see there fellow pigs off to jail. They had no reason to arrest that man let alone kill him in such a brutal manor. It would have been less cruel if they just cut off his head like Isis or shot him would of been quicker and less cruel.. at least in my eyes. I understand were your comming from though..
So Freddy Grey was walking down the street and saw the police approach so he decided to turn away and go another way. Police interpreted this as an indication that Freddy was guilty of some crime so they arrested Freddy after they chased him down. When they dragged him back to the car a passerby thought he saw Freddy with a broken leg and yelled at the cops to be nice. 45 minutes and 2 stops later Freddy grey shows up with 3 broken vertebrae and a nearly severed spinal cord.
It is the absolute sworn duty of the Police to take responsibility and care of the "innocent until proven guilty in a court of law" people. This is an outrage, and we know that the officers who brought him in are lying through their scumbag teeth about what happened that night. They are trying to save their own skin and so they hide behind the shield and a thick blue wall.
The people who are rioting and looting could very well be paid provocateurs. Their actions help to justify the means by which law and order are imposed ( Violence).
In the month of March, US police officers killed 118 people. One Month. In the last 115 years the UK police have killed 69 people. SO US police kill over 200 times as many people.
In the USA Blacks are more than five times as likely as a white person to be killed by police. The number of unarmed black people that have been shot to death are legion.
Why do we allow police to treat fellow human beings this way? AT one time people called police for help, now they would rather deal with the problem themselves because calling the police is like calling an assassin to come and kill you.
It is the absolute sworn duty of the Police to take responsibility and care of the "innocent until proven guilty in a court of law" people. This is an outrage, and we know that the officers who brought him in are lying through their scumbag teeth about what happened that night. They are trying to save their own skin and so they hide behind the shield and a thick blue wall.
The people who are rioting and looting could very well be paid provocateurs. Their actions help to justify the means by which law and order are imposed ( Violence).
In the month of March, US police officers killed 118 people. One Month. In the last 115 years the UK police have killed 69 people. SO US police kill over 200 times as many people.
In the USA Blacks are more than five times as likely as a white person to be killed by police. The number of unarmed black people that have been shot to death are legion.
Why do we allow police to treat fellow human beings this way? AT one time people called police for help, now they would rather deal with the problem themselves because calling the police is like calling an assassin to come and kill you.
tightpockt
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I never said any such thing...you did. Maybe you're the racist..or maybe its that your position is so week that you have to make things up that I said in order to shout them down. It seems like you always need something to shout down.
Your narrative is so fragile that it can't stand up to the slightest breeze of reality.
I can see where you would be conflicted. On one hand all I said was that these rioters and looters i.e. criminals weren't doing themselves any favors and how that behavior undermines the cause of the people protesting.
I don't see how you can disagree with that statement.
On the other hand the people I was talking about were brown and in your world you can't EVER criticize someone who's browner than you NO MATTER WHAT
Rob Roy
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Where were you earlier today, when I was repairing my road and mending the garden fence?