Baltimore Officers Charged

deadgro

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The percentage of blacks beaten by cops is indisputably higher for blacks than for whites. This is a fact. How do you explain that?

To follow the direction you are going with your statement, it sounds like your are saying that because not every white police officer is racist, the disproportionate beatings of blacks is not racially linked. By this logic, not all falling objects cause injuries therefore no falling objects cause injuries.
That's not what I said either time.
 

Fogdog

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That's not what I said either time.
you are right sir, you said "No, I don't believe all white cops are racist." I thought you had a point. The double negative makes the statement a little odd but its a clear statement. Its not very helpful in furthering a discussion if that's all you meant to say.

I'll just put out a statement too: No, I don't believe that all white cops are not racist.
 

deadgro

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you are right sir, you said "No, I don't believe all white cops are racist." I thought you had a point. The double negative makes the statement a little odd but its a clear statement. Its not very helpful in furthering a discussion if that's all you meant to say.

I'll just put out a statement too: No, I don't believe that all white cops are not racist.
@rollitup another one of your puppets is melting down.
 

desert dude

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Rand Paul is thousands of times better than Granny Clinton on the issues that would improve all of our lives, but particularly the currently-hopeless lives of citizens of Baltimore.

Democrats really need their own version of the tea-party to breathe some life into their doddering ranks. Republicans are awful, but Democrats are much, much worse.
 

Fogdog

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Rand Paul is thousands of times better than Granny Clinton on the issues that would improve all of our lives, but particularly the currently-hopeless lives of citizens of Baltimore.

Democrats really need their own version of the tea-party to breathe some life into their doddering ranks. Republicans are awful, but Democrats are much, much worse.
Yep, to your second statement. The Democratic Party's leadership is dying off without recruiting youth into leadership positions. The only thing it has going for it is that it's not the Republican party, which is entrenched as the party of and for racist white males, hence their attraction to Herr Paul. Ms Clinton represents the Democratic party machine and whatever lobbyists that want to put megabucks into her campaign. So far, this election cycle is dismal but its still early..
 

see4

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What's the difference between a white cop killing a black man and a black cop killing a black man?
None. If it were based on false prejudice, they both would be committing racially motivated murder.

It appears one officer charged with murder, Caesar Goodson, the driver of the van, who is black. Others charged with manslaughter and assault.
Why did you feel the need to add, "who is black"?
 

desert dude

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Yep, to your second statement. The Democratic Party's leadership is dying off without recruiting youth into leadership positions. The only thing it has going for it is that it's not the Republican party, which is entrenched as the party of and for racist white males, hence their attraction to Herr Paul. Ms Clinton represents the Democratic party machine and whatever lobbyists that want to put megabucks into her campaign. So far, this election cycle is dismal but its still early..
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"RACIST!!!" "War on wymin!" Is that all the progs have? You might want to look at the election outcome last October. Democrats lost. At every level. You guys need some real ideas instead of foolish, empty insults.

I am looking forward to 2016. Hillary will be conceding, unless she breaks a hip and dies of a staph infection in the meantime. The downside to the Democrat's implosion is that a bunch of mainstream Republicans will ascend.

Rand is not a mainstream Republican. I can hope for change. :-)
 

deadgro

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None. If it were based on false prejudice, they both would be committing racially motivated murder.



Why did you feel the need to add, "who is black"?
So racially and racist are the same thing?

I thought someone had to believe a race was superior/inferior to be called racist. You're saying the simple fact of prejudice unrelated to race qualifies as racism if different races are involved?
 

Fogdog

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"RACIST!!!" "War on wymin!" Is that all the progs have? You might want to look at the election outcome last October. Democrats lost. At every level. You guys need some real ideas instead of foolish, empty insults.

I am looking forward to 2016. Hillary will be conceding, unless she breaks a hip and dies of a staph infection in the meantime. The downside to the Democrat's implosion is that a bunch of mainstream Republicans will ascend.

Rand is not a mainstream Republican. I can hope for change. :-)
Yep, "RACIST!!!" "War on wymin!" At this time, that's all the Democratic party has and it's weak. On the other hand, I don't see you denying that the Republican party is of and for racist white males.

I don't understand why you want to return the country to the clutches of the party of GWB. Their regime in the first decade of this century left this country in bad shape. We'll see what the Republican party machine leaves of Rand Paul when they are through with him. He is either going to be hamstrung by the push to the right that he will need to make in order to get the nomination or he will not get the nomination because he is not conservative enough.

Right now, neither party offers much other than more expansion in income inequality, more War on Drugs, more War, period. Things won't change as long as the SCOTUS rulings are in force that protect unlimited campaign donations as free speech and corporations are people.
 
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foreverflyhi

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Why are you guys talking about the difference between coke and Pepsi? Both are from the same corporation, one is red the other is blue, but still same shit.

For those of you dumb bigots, that means, republicans and Democrats are the same puppets to a racist neo- liberal capitalist white male dominated system
 

Red1966

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The percentage of blacks beaten by cops is indisputably higher for blacks than for whites. This is a fact. How do you explain that?
Since your little stastistic (uncited, of course) fails to mention that black cops beat blacks at a higher rate than whites, I'd explain it by saying you took a (uncited) statistic, modified it, and used it as a basis to promote a half-truth, or as commonly known, a lie.
 

Red1966

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Yep, "RACIST!!!" I don't see you denying that the Republican party is of and for racist white males.
If you don't see it, you are either lying or blind. The Democratic Party was the political arm of the Klu Klux Klan for decades.
 

Red1966

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So, because in this case, the driver of the van was black, all of the data that shows disproportionate rates of police brutality towards black people is refuted?

Agree that data show police brutality is also visited upon the poor more often than on wealthy (duh). Police beatings of people with dark skin happen at disproportionate rates regardless of economic status -- this is where the term "driving while black" comes from. In this case, Grey was doing nothing wrong prior to his death at the hands of the police. He just happened to be walking while black.
He was high and ran from the police. Two illegal actions.
 

Fogdog

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Since your little stastistic (uncited, of course) fails to mention that black cops beat blacks at a higher rate than whites, I'd explain it by saying you took a (uncited) statistic, modified it, and used it as a basis to promote a half-truth, or as commonly known, a lie.
Man, this statistic has been posted many times before but, since you have a memory with a half-life of Americanium, I'll spoon feed you a link: http://plsonline.eku.edu/insidelook/being-arrested-can-be-hazardous-your-health-especially-if-you-are-person-colorsome data. This link contains a break-down on statistics from police beatings by race But really, 5 minutes on Google will give you a plethora of data. Lazy ass.

From the US census, 2013
White non-hispanic percentage of the population is about 62%
Black non-hispanic percentage of the population is about 13%
Latino or hispanic percentage of the population is about 17%

Referring to table 5 in the link provided above, there were 4813 arrest related deaths between 2003-2009. If there were no bias in police beatings, one would expect the report to show about the same breakdown according to race. The percentage of people that die in arrest-related event is:
White non-hispanic percentage arrest related deaths is about 42%
Black non-hispanic percentage arrest related deaths is about 31%
Latino or hispanic percentage arrest related deaths is about 19%

Simplifying it to fit into your pin head; Black people are two to three times more likely to die in an arrest related incident than would be expected if there was no bias in police force.

Lazy ass
 
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