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shishkaboy

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I just re-read, peat, perlite and vermiculite are all soil-less mediums, so definitely pH your water brotha
I must agree with you AP, I use promix and fox farm nutes.I have found that small changes in ph can cause pretty noticable differences in quality, yield, color, smell. Just about everything.

Many people have success without ph'ing but Ime, ph control is on the next level.
 

AlphaPhase

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For sure Shishka, imo any soil-less medium out of the bag and that has not been amended has to have the ph in the proper range to grow the plant properly. Though soiless technically isn't hydro, it has the same principles as hydro when it comes to nutrient uptake via pH range. Soil-less is a little different and between 5.8-6.3 pH is the range I've found that works great. Some people have success at 6.5, which is pushing it, but any higher the plants will not grow healthy.

Amended soils are great, just add tap or ro water and call it a day. I miss those easy days of growing :p
 

curious old fart

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I use T-5's in the veg room. There is a table 4.3' X 2' that has a 4 bulb fixture under the top shelf and a 6 bulb hung from the ceiling. I had a 400w mh, but the coverage was only 2' X 2'. The T-5's run cooler and give better coverage for veg.
some pics





the bulbs are the 6k kelvin

:peace:
cof
 

AlphaPhase

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Totally agree cof, I'm happy I got a t5 recently. I just turned off a 400w mh today and transferred everything under the t5. More lumens, better light spread and no need for a exhaust fan. I like the idea of the multi level lighting, I am trying to come up with a plan to do something similar for veg, saves so much space
 

AlphaPhase

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Here ya go man, if you continue to use salt based ferts, keep it in this range, this should keep your plants heading in the right direction. The starter kit you have should have the ph adjusting solution in it
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Thank you my friends, I'll try your suggestions
 

oldman60

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I ph my water right to 6 my coir is ph'ed to 6.5.
I've been using Hesi nutes and am very pleased with them, Hesi Coir (veg to flower),
Hesi PK, Hesi Power Clean Enzymes.
No salt build up, right back to re-use.
:peace:
 

Gratefulgrowin93

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Totally agree cof, I'm happy I got a t5 recently. I just turned off a 400w mh today and transferred everything under the t5. More lumens, better light spread and no need for a exhaust fan. I like the idea of the multi level lighting, I am trying to come up with a plan to do something similar for veg, saves so much space
t 5 are great for vegging sprouting seed rooting clones and mothers love the spectrum and short internodes I get using them ✌
 

Gratefulgrowin93

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For sure Shishka, imo any soil-less medium out of the bag and that has not been amended has to have the ph in the proper range to grow the plant properly. Though soiless technically isn't hydro, it has the same principles as hydro when it comes to nutrient uptake via pH range. Soil-less is a little different and between 5.8-6.3 pH is the range I've found that works great. Some people have success at 6.5, which is pushing it, but any higher the plants will not grow healthy.

Amended soils are great, just add tap or ro water and call it a day. I miss those easy days of growing :p
and this is dead on when I used to do soiless I monitored ph and ppm religiously haha

it made my buds come out sweeter and stonier than many local collectives had at the time
 

a senile fungus

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Man I can't remember the last time I ph'd anything and my yields and taste are great.

I've got peat and coco in my mix as well. Build a good base and ph isn't an issue.

Oh and tora bora looking better :)
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And trimmed this one to do some training with her :)
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my base is peat and i don't pH either, but the base mix is heavily amended and the EWC are loaded with bennies and beasties.

next run the soil will be lightly reamended and rinse and repeat!

hahaha re-peat. get it?
 

FLkeys1

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Not sure I can still post here since the 600w HPS is gone ;-( I bought a 300w LED and love it so much I purchased another one today, so I,will have a total of 600w....
Very happy with color of the plants and the root growth seems to be quicker on the clones.. No heat!


First pic is Bubba Master under the new light.. 2nd pic is two new clones I picked up at local disp. Just happen to stop by on BOGO day for their clones, got both of these clones for 10.00 total.. Left is Tahoe OG, right is superman OG..

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giggles26

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what is in your soil mix? and how do you reamend/recycle?

mine is loosely based off of cootz' mix, with a great, local supply of EWC that i'm using until my own wormbin is ready to produce for me.
So for a base I use 10% Coco,20% Peat, 40% Perlite, and 30% EWC or Compost of some kind(mushroom,homemade) Then for every cubic ft of mix I add roughly 1 cup of dolomite lime.

Then I keep it light and add a lil greensand, handful of bokashi, kelp or alfalfa, whatever I have and that's it.

Then I feed throughout with teas and beneficials. Then after each cycle I blend a tea and water the soil down with it to rejuvenate the life a lil and then continue as I did before.

Soon I'll be switching to beds and will just pull the main rootball and feed with teas and maybe some cover crop. Will also be nice to be able to use less blumats to water the same amount of girls.
 

a senile fungus

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So for a base I use 10% Coco,20% Peat, 40% Perlite, and 30% EWC or Compost of some kind(mushroom,homemade) Then for every cubic ft of mix I add roughly 1 cup of dolomite lime.

Then I keep it light and add a lil greensand, handful of bokashi, kelp or alfalfa, whatever I have and that's it.

Then I feed throughout with teas and beneficials. Then after each cycle I blend a tea and water the soil down with it to rejuvenate the life a lil and then continue as I did before.

Soon I'll be switching to beds and will just pull the main rootball and feed with teas and maybe some cover crop. Will also be nice to be able to use less blumats to water the same amount of girls.

This is inspiring.

I love how little inputs are needed, barely any at all.

And blumats are in my future for sure!
 
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