Sharing proven soil recipe!

phil k

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Sure. Skepticism is expected. I can't argue with you here because like I said in my original post, I haven't done a long term, monster plant grow in my stuff yet. I'll let you know how it goes. I would have said the same thing to me three years ago..
please understand I'm not a skeptic.. we provide a proven soil program and have for years.. i can see from your mix your system is on point for veg... but it comes to this veg is all fine and dandy but growers especially those seeking advce generally
Why would you say that? Espoma Rose Tone contains feather meal, bone meal, poultry manure, alfalfa meal, Greensand, sulfate of potash, and Humates.

I'm not saying that those would necessarily be the ingredients that I would chose when putting together a soil, but to say that this will only get you through veg is kind of a silly statement IME.
is that a joke or are you o=considering not only the PPM levels of the additive epsom rose tone is 4-3-2 .. it can't by weight of what he listed eve compare with sub cools formula... so don't sit and act like its a good system.. fuck using GARDEN TONE would produce a better product than fucking rose tone..
 

st0wandgrow

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please understand I'm not a skeptic.. we provide a proven soil program and have for years.. i can see from your mix your system is on point for veg... but it comes to this veg is all fine and dandy but growers especially those seeking advce generally

is that a joke or are you o=considering not only the PPM levels of the additive epsom a is 4-3-2 .. it can't by weight of what he listed eve compare with sub cools formula... so don't sit and act like its a good system.. fuck using GARDEN TONE would produce a better product than fucking rose tone..
I know you'd like to make organic gardening sound super complicated so that you can peddle your over priced bags of soil on ebay, but it's really not. NPK is something that most organic farmers don't concern themselves with. You sound like a hydro store jockey.
 

phil k

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lol im not here to impress anyone you see me selling shit? trust me i have the people to back me
all I'm saying is quit fucking posting bad advice the system listed is no better and much less feed wise than sub cools system .. this is for fucking weenies wanting to grow god damn herbs...
 

greasemonkeymann

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please understand I'm not a skeptic.. we provide a proven soil program and have for years.. i can see from your mix your system is on point for veg... but it comes to this veg is all fine and dandy but growers especially those seeking advce generally

is that a joke or are you o=considering not only the PPM levels of the additive epsom rose tone is 4-3-2 .. it can't by weight of what he listed eve compare with sub cools formula... so don't sit and act like its a good system.. fuck using GARDEN TONE would produce a better product than fucking rose tone..
are you confusing parts per million with NPK %??
Even so man, NPK doesn't mean a whole lot to organic growers, a 4/3/2 can grow some excellent herb just fine.
More isn't better.
Hell damn near all of the nutrients on subs recipe are water soluble, so what happens to those fancy high NPK numbers then?
 

phil k

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are you confusing parts per million with NPK %??
Even so man, NPK doesn't mean a whole lot to organic growers, a 4/3/2 can grow some excellent herb just fine.
More isn't better.
Hell damn near all of the nutrients on subs recipe are water soluble, so what happens to those fancy high NPK numbers then?
you ignorant fuck I'm not supporting his system .. it fucking sucks but if you understood any god damn thing about pants and how they feed you'd know the above system isn't shit bottom fucking line post it on a flower site for old women
 

st0wandgrow

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lol im not here to impress anyone you see me selling shit? trust me i have the people to back me
all I'm saying is quit fucking posting bad advice the system listed is no better and much less feed wise than sub cools system .. this is for fucking weenies wanting to grow god damn herbs...
You're very argumentative. I think you just like to hear yourself talk. The friggin organic version of "pk-boosted".

Any of the Espoma Tone products will give you an adequate amount of nutrients for the plant. I never said it was ideal, but for a simple recipe it will do just fine.

And "PPM"?? Are you kidding me? I have yet to come across an organic farmer that know's his shit that worries about PPM. My god.
 

greasemonkeymann

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please understand I'm not a skeptic.. we provide a proven soil program and have for years.. i can see from your mix your system is on point for veg... but it comes to this veg is all fine and dandy but growers especially those seeking advce generally

is that a joke or are you o=considering not only the PPM levels of the additive epsom rose tone is 4-3-2 .. it can't by weight of what he listed eve compare with sub cools formula... so don't sit and act like its a good system.. fuck using GARDEN TONE would produce a better product than fucking rose tone..
i have several proven soil recipes that i have used for many yrs, cannabis is an extraordinarily hearty and easy plant to grow. To say that you have a proven soil recipe is a great thing to say, but hardly an accomplishment really... I understand you are doing it as a business... but still..
One thing you should know, the nutrients for cannabis don't need to be "vege" or "flower" specific.
a 5/5/5 will grow herb just fine.
 
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greasemonkeymann

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you ignorant fuck I'm not supporting his system .. it fucking sucks but if you understood any god damn thing about pants and how they feed you'd know the above system isn't shit bottom fucking line post it on a flower site for old women
excuse me?
I have addressed you with nothing but respect and i address EVERYONE the same way.
So i'm the ignorant one?
ok dude, go ahead and keep layering your soil..
an ignorant fuck huh?
Heh... you'd be seriously backpeddling if you said that in person man.
Seriously, i wrestle cars and steel all day, you wanna talk tough?
How about i give you my shop address?
 
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a mongo frog

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you ignorant fuck I'm not supporting his system .. it fucking sucks but if you understood any god damn thing about pants and how they feed you'd know the above system isn't shit bottom fucking line post it on a flower site for old women
Who's system, the op?
 

phil k

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i have several proven soil recipes that i have used for many yrs, cannabis is an extraordinarily heart and easy plant to grow. To say that you have a proven soil recipe is a great thing to say, but hardly an accomplishment really... I understand you are doing it as a business... but still..
One thing you should know, the nutrients for cannabis don't need to be "vege" or "flower" specific.
a 5/5/5 will grow herb just fine.
wholly shit HIS RECIPE ISNT EVEN CLOSE TO THAT!!!! anyone that has a comprehension of how a 5/5/5 system is made.. would now that.. THATS THE POINT....
but ill argue that yes 5/5/5 can do a proper grow but it doesn't push the genetics to its fullest potential..

AND PLEASE little hockey man the last thing i care about is my voice what i do care about is ignorant people speeding this bull hit myth that ocean forest produces anything in quality or yield that properly grown properly amended systems do.. ill put my system against anything. and on top of that i have the backing of large growers n our area to back it.. the last thing i give a shit about is sales outside of my area... honestly i hate the fact that people have to pay to ship the program.. that bull crap to me id give anything to afford free shipping to people wanting the system.. but I'm not here to fucking sell soil I'm here to help people and if you under or even knew a god damn thing about the system i sold you would question what i do and what people pay for... when you grow an ounce for 5$ outside elf electrical costs id love for you to compete..
 

phil k

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im not here to beat dicks and i am absolutely not here to sell my soil i have no need.. wether you want to admit it or not I'm here to help growers and help them not be given bullshit or guessed answers .. thats all i give two shits about.
 

anzohaze

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i have several proven soil recipes that i have used for many yrs, cannabis is an extraordinarily hearty and easy plant to grow. To say that you have a proven soil recipe is a great thing to say, but hardly an accomplishment really... I understand you are doing it as a business... but still..
One thing you should know, the nutrients for cannabis don't need to be "vege" or "flower" specific.
a 5/5/5 will grow herb just fine.
I follow grease and stow and follow them closely as I use there recipes which are pretty basic saving hundreds over sub cools shit and have an excellent water only grows. I will Def stand in front or behind them and tell yout there shit rocks with out hesitation.
 
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