akhiymjames
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DHN Platinuk GSC
Clone only strains
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Shastafarian
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lol… good eye
Shastafarian
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OD is outdoor grown, ID is indoor grown and Cherry pie is a strain running alot here in N.Cali. Its super tasty and worth checking out for sure.
mdjenks
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shit a lot of breeders/banks cross a ton of strains with one male like bodhi using snow lotus and appalachia, hazeman did it with aloha white widow, GGG did it with joseph og, SinCity with bluepower. They all do it man. you get a stud you use that stud.
Joedank
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just thought a lineup included multiple males ... guess that just us folks that breed with veggie plants too ...
genetic bottlenecking SUCKS .. but we want RESIN and flavor so bad...
sidenote - friends that breed seed for big veggie companys were in the dark about the cannabis biz and seeds . first question they asked- they grow more then just cannabis right?? i said - some only use ONE MALE oh the laughs they had ... for kale seed they choose from acres of plants pull 1000's and let the others biennealize for seed NEXT YEAR... commitment to craft ... needs to enter cannsbis soon ... looking at reasarch permits with a lawyer next week...lol
Mr.Head
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did you tell them some of these guys are getting over $200 a 10 pack? Maybe when these veggie/ornamental guys get in the game we can get some progress towards more stable quality genetics.
Shastafarian
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Cookies……???? I just had 4 HashBar males I gutted and not knowing exactly which one to pick based on purely pre flower traits I chose a bad ass looking fella to make love with all my ladies. I chose him because he was the Hardiest fastest to flower Boss and the stinkiest and stickiest leaves to squeeze so I decided hey why not take a clone before flowers busted and now Im about to make a card board Cheap-o CFL box to seclude him in my closet for the pollen.
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amgprb
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DHN Platinum
akhiymjames
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Def looks familiar lol. Show a full pic of her if you can want to see how fast she's growing. I know you said she's not that bad but she was dumb slow for me. She was in fresh base soil so it may have been too much N cus she was deep green.
Shastafarian
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Got my Rasberry Cookies to finally recover from the bug buffet. I only hope its something of the Platinum Quality.
mdjenks
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You really can't compare veggies and reg plants to cannabis. cannabis hybrids have long lineages so even though a breeder makes a lot of strains from one male each hybrid with the same stud has a totally different lineage among other things like smell/taste/high/etc.
I say those "plant" growers are out of their element when it comes to the complexity of making hybrids, you rarely see "plant/veggie" hybrids and like I said cannabis is grown for a totally different reason.
this is the entire lineage of sinmint cookies, its so long I had to take three screen shots:
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Joedank
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my personal seed that i have made from variatals witinin the seed world would disagree..
you need to TASTE and smell alot more with veggies and fruits but the variation is ASTOUNDING .
you should really look into mr.morton and his
red russin kale . or the story behind ruby red grape fruit <treated with gamma rays to get the seed...
apple used to have 1000's of phenotypes before we messed it all up with monocropping...
i was just poking fun that one stud does not a seed profolio make....
edit : your example proves my point . the overlapses in parentage show genetic bottelnecking.... IMO .... i hope if i ever sell my seed stashs i would be doing somthing kinda diffrent more akin to breeding for high altitude or certain illnesses... sorry for the book . its just somthing we talk alot about...
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mdjenks
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And if you have any disbeliefs in what I am saying look at the work GW Pharma is doing:
http://www.gwpharm.com
http://www.gwpharm.com
mdjenks
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You mean like Monsanto? http://www.monsanto.com/pages/default.aspx, fucking with nature is dangerous
You should also check this out: http://cannabisgenomics.org
There are still a shit load of apple phenotypes
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Joedank
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GMO HELL NO!! I only EAT ORGANIC NON GMO project food
how dare you post a monsanto link without at least looking at the cut of his jib....LMAO
MORTON COULD not be furthur from that
FROM HIS WEBSITE>https://www.wildgardenseed.com/ if you grow food you should get this guys seeds
All of our seed is Organically Grown by Shoulder to Shoulder Farm
in the heart of Oregon’s Willamette Valley, a world class place to grow specialty seeds.
Few places on Earth have the climate, latitude, soil, water, and intellectual resources found in this rare north-sloping river valley. Seed companies from every continent come to the Willamette Valley to contract quality seed production. We are fortunate enough to live and farm here.
Many of these varieties originated in our on-farm breeding program for organic conditions and fresh market quality, denoted by our
Our ecological approach to plant breeding and crop protection generates superior varieties for farmers who don’t use chemical crop protectants and fertilizers. The small-scale care and authentic fertility of our farm fields yield fat seed with exceptional seedling vigor, a key trait for organic crop success. This seed is organically bred to be organically grown, just like your crops.
EDIT>they do breeding for the area to get around the powdery mildew blight in the PNW
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mdjenks
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Well thats good to know but GMO's have a lock down on the worlds food industries like india, china, the U.S., etcMORTON COULD not be furthur from that
FROM HIS WEBSITE>https://www.wildgardenseed.com/ if you grow food you should get this guys seeds
All of our seed is Organically Grown by Shoulder to Shoulder Farm
in the heart of Oregon’s Willamette Valley, a world class place to grow specialty seeds.
Few places on Earth have the climate, latitude, soil, water, and intellectual resources found in this rare north-sloping river valley. Seed companies from every continent come to the Willamette Valley to contract quality seed production. We are fortunate enough to live and farm here.
Many of these varieties originated in our on-farm breeding program for organic conditions and fresh market quality, denoted by ourfarm-originalmark. Other varieties have come to us over thirty-odd years of farming, either as heirlooms or good commercial standards, now with generations of selection on the farm. All seed at risk of GMO contamination has been tested and found free of genetic engineering components.
Our ecological approach to plant breeding and crop protection generates superior varieties for farmers who don’t use chemical crop protectants and fertilizers. The small-scale care and authentic fertility of our farm fields yield fat seed with exceptional seedling vigor, a key trait for organic crop success. This seed is organically bred to be organically grown, just like your crops.
EDIT>they do breeding for the area to get around the powdery mildew blight in the PNW
I hope that farm breaks through the GMO crap and people wake up to the shit they are consuming.
Glad to hear you are involved with such a good cause and some extremely interesting organic research!
mdjenks
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I disagree about your genetic bottle necking, cannabis hybrids are naturally made and all come from land race strains when you break them down as would any kind of hybridization
glad to have this discussion as it could provide some educational insight
Joedank
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not to drag this out but the E.U. has banned GMO food no other countys but USA and canada suppliers grow GMO .
namely because no EU counrty can import it ... that is why good bakerys and brew comapys IMPORT there flour and grain...
mdjenks
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Not true there is an entire documentary about GMO's trapping farmers in contracts in india to use their seeds, can't recall the name but I will find it
here is an article about the doc http://grist.org/industrial-agriculture/bitter-seeds-documentary-reveals-tragic-toll-of-gmos-in-india/