Kelp 4 less review

OldSoul777

OldSoul777

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I am giving my review on kelp 4 less Extreme blend kelp, fulvic, hummic concentrate and I have to say that I love it. I used to use botani care Liquid Karma but realized this is better for way way less. use it daily without even batting an eye at the cost. I have been using this for 2 weeks now with crazy growth both in foliage and root zone. I also use their cal mag which for some reason lowers ph more than GH calmagic but helps because the kelp tends to raise ph a bit. I also bought their Mycorrhizae + Trichoderma mix. 20 bux gets you 4 ounces shipped and is the same thing as great white shark root enhancer. They make lots of products that you would otherwise spend double, sometimes 4 times as much for. I was skeptical at first but now a believer. I used to use Liquid Karma from botanicare but it was 80 bux for a gallon opposed to their extreme blend concentrate for 20 which makes a gallon. I couldn't afford to use the LK all the time. With kelp for less extream blend I use it with every watering! If you dont know the benefits of seaweed. I suggest you read up and stop wasting your money on expensive BS products. Everyone check them out and save some money!
 
OldSoul777

OldSoul777

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kommano said:
No I do not. I don't have to supplement that really. Sorry :(. I love their thricoderma and azomite.
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I love some of their products but I am noticing their customer service sucks ass! I asked about the cal mag over two weeks ago and got no answer. When I use GH it takes 100ml to 30 gallons to get my RO water to 200 ppm with their cal mag it takes 300ml, causes my ph to go very low and unstable at that level but is what it takes to get it to 200 ppm like when using GH. It also never completely dissolves. I am now showing a calmag deficiency. I dont know if its just calcium or just magnesium or both. I just ordered a gallon of GH calmagic. Hopefully it will get here sooner than later. I do have about 40ml of GH Brand on hand. Its hard to say if I should add or am I using too much. what is it that's not dissolving, the calcium or magnesium? these are the questions I asked more than once with no response. I cant continue to support this company after what is going on despite how much I like their kelp mix. I can find Kelp in many places. two were actually recommended earlier in this post. I even sent another email stating that if I didn't get an answer that I was going to have to switch companies when it comes to buying my kelp and other products. I also use their mitochondria and thricoderma. I think i hacked the first word!,lol I was going to experiment with more products but not if they cant help me with using it!
 
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kommano

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Honestly I'm not sure about that but have you tried calling them directly? Calcium and mag should disolve unless ph isnt correct. I would speak with them directly and it should be taken care of. Be very careful tho you don't want a build up lol.

Edit: just realized you said you had unstable ph? That will prevent it from disolving it properly. But the calmag being the issue of the instability I don't think is the case, should fluctuate very little. I could be wrong just sounds interesting. Hope you figure it out.
 
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OldSoul777

OldSoul777

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kommano said:
Honestly I'm not sure about that but have you tried calling them directly? Calcium and mag should disolve unless ph isnt correct. I would speak with them directly and it should be taken care of. Be very careful tho you don't want a build up lol.

Edit: just realized you said you had unstable ph? That will prevent it from dissolving it properly. But the calmag being the issue of the instability I don't think is the case, should fluctuate very little. I could be wrong just sounds interesting. Hope you figure it out.
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Yes I have tried calling directly and can never get through. I tried numerous numbers for different states. My PH is always correct as I would not be successful with my grows if it wasn't. I have to correct it 2-3 times a day or it drops down to 4.5! With GH it only got as low as 5.4 and as high as 6.0 after nutes ,calmag and kel-p are mixed. I am in hydro. I worry about too much cal mag as well so I'm really kinda lost without talking to them. As far as PH being unstable that happens about the first week after mixing it up and then seems to level out. I never had a fluctuation problem when using GH calmagic and is why I am switching back. It really is crazy that I cant get in contact with them. I am only seeing the very beginning of what looks like to be a cal mag def. In all fairness I didn't pay as close attention to this reservoir and found my PH @ 4.5 a few times so maybe im seeing what I am because of that. Its only showing in the bigger plants and you must look close to spot it. When using the GH I could go days without adjusting the PH but now if I am sick its hard to take care of them when I need to adjust 2-3 times a day. I can set the PH right before lights out to 6.1 which is high but in the AM it is down to 5.0 in 12hrs. During the day I manage to keep it between 5.5 and 5.8. It has to be their cal mag because when I go back to GH it my PH is fine. I would love to see what they have to say! Have you ever had to contact their customer support?
 
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kommano

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Hmm interesting... no I haven't had the need to as of yet. It's surprising that they haven't contacted you back because I've read good things about the customer service. Try npk raw cal/mag I have that on standby if I ever need to use it but never have. Good stuff about it and the company doesn't disappoint.
 
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old shol4evr

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OldSoul777 said:
Yes I have tried calling directly and can never get through. I tried numerous numbers for different states. My PH is always correct as I would not be successful with my grows if it wasn't. I have to correct it 2-3 times a day or it drops down to 4.5! With GH it only got as low as 5.4 and as high as 6.0 after nutes ,calmag and kel-p are mixed. I am in hydro. I worry about too much cal mag as well so I'm really kinda lost without talking to them. As far as PH being unstable that happens about the first week after mixing it up and then seems to level out. I never had a fluctuation problem when using GH calmagic and is why I am switching back. It really is crazy that I cant get in contact with them. I am only seeing the very beginning of what looks like to be a cal mag def. In all fairness I didn't pay as close attention to this reservoir and found my PH @ 4.5 a few times so maybe im seeing what I am because of that. Its only showing in the bigger plants and you must look close to spot it. When using the GH I could go days without adjusting the PH but now if I am sick its hard to take care of them when I need to adjust 2-3 times a day. I can set the PH right before lights out to 6.1 which is high but in the AM it is down to 5.0 in 12hrs. During the day I manage to keep it between 5.5 and 5.8. It has to be their cal mag because when I go back to GH it my PH is fine. I would love to see what they have to say! Have you ever had to contact their customer support?
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every time i have to contact them ,i just write the grow mechanic and within hrs they have always contacted me back with a response
 
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prettyweeds said:
This guy recommended it a few wks back and ever since I've started I have lush green beauty's my girls love the stuff and I just can't stop raving about it!!!
I foliar feed my veg too they love it!
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Oh yea the extreme blend is amazing! I think its a waste to mess with anything else such as bloom boosters and other junk. i will never grow without kelp, fulvic and hummic acids for as long as I am growing.
 
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old shol4evr

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yea i build my on soil and have come up with a pretty good recipe ,using all there stuff to ,i was a little concerned that my soil might be to hot ,cooked it for 6 weeks.i went and stuck 3 seeds in solo cups 1 week ago. 24 hrs later i had 1 popped threw soil and the next day the other 2 popped threw ,the damned things are standing 2 1/2 tall after a week ,planted 3 more seeds today ,all seeds straight into soil and my recipe seems to be seedling friendly. i build the soil for water and tea only ,going to see what happens,my plan for flower is there bloom pack if need be
 
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